Critiquing “The Skeptic” Burzynski Critics: A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics (page 9)

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Didymus Judas Thomas, Contributor

Musings on the intersection of Articles, Bias, and Censorship

(The Big 3: A.B.C.)

4/19/2013 @ 9:43PM

A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics

guychapman 5 days ago

“Ah yes, a 1996 news story based on claims from the clinic.”

guychapman, would you like an opportunity to re-read the below and try again?

junkeeroo 1 week ago

The Washington Times, December 5, 1996:

Doctor’s lifesaving effort could land him in prison
– FDA ignores cancer drug’s success

HOUSTON – Federal prosecutors concede that a cancer doctor they will put on trial here in January for using an innovative but unapproved drug has been “saving lives.”

guychapman, that’s NOT

“…claims from the clinic”

“Bold claims, too. Since then he’s registered 61 clinical trials.”

guychapman, that’s NOT taking into consideration the 72 clinical trials listed on the Securities and Exchange (SEC) filings for

11/25/1997 – Form 10-SB

11/25/1997 – Company sponsoring 72 Phase II clinical trials conducted pursuant to INDs filed with FDA which are currently ongoing

“Where are the published results that back his claims?”

guychapman, HERE:

Burzynski Clinical Trials (The SEC filings):
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/burzynski-clinical-trials-2
guychapman,

“The FDA is a large organisation made up of all kinds of people from clerks to political appointees.”

“No whistleblowers.”

guychapman, how do YOU know?

Surely YOU do NOT expect people to believe something just because you posted it?

Considering your stellar track-record

Where is your independent reliable citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s)?

“Great conspiracy, really well controlled.”

guychapman, I posted this on your “blahg:”
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/blahg
and it was censored (removed)”:

Are you a coward like “Orac,” @gorskon, @oracknows, @ScienceBasedMed, Dr. David H. Gorski?
http://burzynskimovie.com/images/stories/transcript/Documents/BurzynskiTriesToExposeNCI.pdf
“Especially since it necessarily also covers MSKCC, NCI, ACS, CRUK and dozens of other organisations.”

guychapman, where are their reliable independent antineoplaston clinical studies?

“I think the number of people engaged in actively suppressing Burzynski’s miracle cure must be in the hundreds of thousands by now and includes lab technicians, scientists, doctors, regulators, politicians and charities in at least ten countries.”
http://t.co/N7ErbunCV2
guychapman, like THIS?
redd.it/1dk974
Wikipedia, what’s your motivation?
http://redd.it/1dk974
Didymus Judas Thomas’
http://www.reddit.com/tb/1dk974
Hipocritical Oath Blog
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/wikipedia-whats-your-motivation/
“Conspiracies that watertight could give you the world on a plate.”

“I mean, Watergate only involved a handful of people and it was busted almost immediately.”

guychapman, you employ a favorite tactic of critics like you

It seems you are more interested in addressing form (CAPITALIZATION) over substance (the real issues)

Maybe you think that your verbosity (17 posts) will somehow lend credibility to your 3 comments re the Declaration of Helsinki; which does NOT state WHEN human clinical trial results MUST be published, and even though you have repeatedly proclaimed that Burzynski has NOT published the FINAL results of any of his phase 2 clinical trials, you have NOT provided any indication as to WHEN any of those trials were completed so that they can be compared to the 2006 study I cited whose results were published in 2013

You also commented:

“In order to claim that he can cure incurable tumours, he needs to publish high quality clinical trial evidence in peer-reviewed journals,”

yet you do NOT provide any citation, reference, or link that overrides the National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) information re publication which I have commented on previously.

It is apropo you commented:

“Watergate only involved a handful of people and it was busted almost immediately,”

since President Nixon is credited with starting the

“War on Cancer”

and when Watergate occurred he was told that there was a cancer on the Presidency, but Watergate occurred in 1972 and Nixon didn’t resign until 2 years later, in 1974

It is also appropriate that you mention oncologist David Gorski; who disclosed on social media that Peter Lipson is his “pal”

Did you review Burzynski’s 2003-2006 phase 2 clinical trials preliminary reports to see if any of the authors listed on them is an oncologist?

No?

That’s why your observation that Burzynski (a biochemist) is NOT an oncologist, is irrelevant

Do you have any proof to back up your remarkable claim:

“Against that we have an anonymous shill who takes every word of the Burzynski clinic and its supporters as Revealed Truth”?

No?

That’s because you’re wrong about that just like the other issues I’ve listed above

Mr. Chapman, you attempts at obfuscation of the issues, does not impress

guychapman 5 days ago

You don’t really understand the scientific concept of proof do you?

guychapman, you do NOT really understand the concept of proof, do you?

“That probably explains why you are swallowing Burzynski’s PR hook line and sinker.”

guychapman, NO, unlike you, I actually reviewed things and am able to provide “citations,” “references,” and / or “links”

“In order to claim that he can cure incurable tumours, he needs to publish high quality clinical trial evidence in peer-reviewed journals.”

guychapman, where is your “citation(s),” “reference(s),” and / or “link(s)”?

“He needs to publish his science in a way that others can understand and replicate.”

guychapman, do you mean, like THIS?

Stanislaw Rajmund Burzynski Publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/stanislaw-rajmund-burzynski-publications
Burzynski updates Scientific Publications page:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/burzynski-updates-scientific-publications-page
Antineoplastons, which were first described by Burzynski:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/antineoplastons-which-were-first-described-by-burzynski
Burzynski: Poland antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-poland-antineoplaston-publications
Burzynski: South Korea antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-south-korea-antineoplaston-publications
Burzynski: Russia antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-russia-antineoplaston-publications
Burzynski: Egypt antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-egypt-antineoplaston-publication
Burzynski: Japan antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/burzynski-japan
Burzynski: China antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-china-antineoplaston-publications
Burzynski and China / Taiwan, ROC:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/burzynski-china-taiwan-roc
Burzynski and Taiwan, ROC
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/burzynski-taiwan-roc
Burzynski, China, and Dvorit D. Samid:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/burzynski-china-dvorit-d-samid
Burzynski, Ming-Cheng Liau, and Gi-Ming Lai:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/24/burzynski-ming-cheng-liau-gi-ming-lai
Review Article: Antineoplastons:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/review-article-antineoplastons
Burzynski – The Antineoplaston Randomized Japan Phase II Clinical Trial Study:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/burzynski-the-antineoplaston-randomized-japan-phase-ii-clinical-trial-study
“The people who need to understand and replicate his work in order to validate it, have been complaining for two decades and more that he has failed to do this.”

guychapman, WHO are “The people”?

“The appeal to conspiracy as an excuse for failure to publish any compelling results is a stable feature of quackery.”

guychapman, YOU ARE part of the “conspiracy” as long as you remain silent and play “dumb” about things like “censorship” and “bias” by Wikipedia; who you are the “apologist” for, and Forbes

“It is not a feature of science as such.”

And neither is your ignorance and inability to provide any citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s)

guychapman 5 days ago

“That was 1996. Since then he’s registered 60 phase II and eon phase III clinical trials.”

guychapman, “eon”?

“Of these he has completed only one, and has failed to publish any meaningful data from any”

guychapman, where is your in-depth review of these publications?

Drugs in R and D (Drugs in Research and Development)

Drugs R D. 2003;4(2):91-101
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12718563
Drugs R D. 2004;5(6):315-26
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15563234
Integrative Cancer Therapies

Integr Cancer Ther. 2005 Jun;4(2):168-77
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15911929
Integr Cancer Ther. 2006 Mar;5(1):40-7
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16484713
2007
http://www.cancer-therapy.org/CT/v5/B/HTML/42._Burzynski,_379-390.html

http://www.burzynskiclinic.com/images/stories/Publications/1252.pdf
Critiquing “The Skeptic” Burzynski
redd.it/1dld1j
Critics: A Film Producer, A Cancer
http://redd.it11dld1j
Doctor, And Their Critics (page 8)
http://www.reddit.com/tb/1dld1j

https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/critiquing-the-skeptic-burzynski-critics-a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics-page-8/
“(which is in contravention of the Helsinki Protocol governing human trials).”

guychapman, exactly WHERE does the Declaration of Helsinki indicate THAT?

Burzynski: Declaration of Helsinki
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-declaration-of-helsinki
“There’s only so much cherry picking you can do.”

guychapman, YOU are the “cherry-picking” King

“The scientific consensus is based on the totality of evidence, or rather in this case the totality of lack of credible evidence.”

guychapman, YOU have NOT provided “credible evidence” of anything, other than your own ignorance:

The dishonesty of Guy Chapman, “The Skeptics” shill
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/12/the-dishonesty-of-guy-chapman-the-skeptics-shill
guychapman 5 days ago

“PDJT aka “Astroturfwatch” – the irony of a contributor to an astroturfing campaign of the magnitude of Burzynski’s calling skeptics for non-existent astroturfing is amusing.”

guychapman, are you related to, or know this “lilady”?

Orac, a lilady, the
redd.it/1dgqa1
Oracolytes: “The Skeptic” Burzynski Critics: A
http://redd.it/1dgqa1
Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And
http://www.reddit.com/tb/1dgqa1
Their Critics:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/orac-a-lilady-the-oracolytes-the-skeptic-burzynski-critics-a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics/
because you sound similar to lilady with your ASSumptions
“You say:”

“Find just one, any single cure for this tumor type and you can’t, outside of Antineoplastons”

guychapman, NO, “you” did NOT say that, since I am NOT “you”

(Forbes)

Didymus Thomas 5 days ago

As former President Ronald Reagan used to say: “Well, there you go again.”

Let me make this perfectly clear and unambiguous as I can.

1. I am NOT Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski, I have never worked for him, I have never met him.

2. I am NOT AstroTurfWatch.

3. I am NOT Eric Merola, I have never worked for him, I have never met him.

4. I am NOT Randy Hinton, I have never met him, this article is the first place I have seen his name.

“What you mean is:”

“Find just one, any single cure for this tumor type and you can’t, including Antineoplastons”.

guychapman, when are you going to show whether you are just a coward or not, and PROVE IT?

“Because the point about which you are in denial is that there is no credible evidence that antineoplastons cure anything.”

guychapman, WHAT does this indicate?

The FDA’s Drug Review Process:

Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective

“[T]he emphasis in Phase 2 is on EFFECTIVENESS”

“This phase aims to obtain PRELIMINARY DATA on whether the drug works in people who have a certain disease or condition”

“Phase 3 studies begin if EVIDENCE of EFFECTIVENESS is shown in Phase 2″

“These studies gather more information about safety and EFFECTIVENESS, studying different populations and different dosages and using the drug in combination with other drugs”
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/resourcesforyou/consumers/ucm143534.htm
“The endlessly repeated list of low quality publication does not come anywhere close to filling in the gap which ought to be filled by the sixty-one human trials he never published – and all the available evidence indicates he never had any intention of doing so.”

guychapman, WHAT does this indicate?

The “FACT” one should know is that clinicaltrials . gov does NOT contain the same data as the National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) cancer . gov web-site:

61 TOTAL
1 – Not Yet Recruiting (Open)(Phase 3)
1 – Closed
2 – Terminated (Withdrawn due to slow enrollment)
7 – Withdrawn (This study has been withdrawn prior to enrollment)
10 – Recruiting (Open)
11 – Open (1 Not Yet Recruiting / 10 Recruiting)
40 – Active, not recruiting (Closed)

The below 1st link: 10 Active (Open):
http://cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/search/results?protocolsearchid=11475951
The below 2nd link: 25 Closed-1st screen / 15 Closed-1 Completed-2nd screen:
http://cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/search/results?protocolsearchid=11476036
NONE of the above are “UNKNOWN” per the above 2 National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) links:

10 – Recruiting (Open)
11 – Open (1 Not Yet Recruiting / 10 Recruiting)
40 – Active, not recruiting (Closed)

10=Open
11=1 Not Yet Recruiting / 10 Recruiting
40=Closed
61-TOTAL

“I don’t think he cares any more about the Helsinki Declaration than he does about any other area of medical ethics.”

guychapman, have you even read the Declaration of Helsinki?

Because if you had, you should be able to indicate which section supports your comment

WHAT was that you were saying about “ethics”?

guychapman 5 days ago

“There’s an interesting parallel with Burzynski here.”

guychapman, there’s an interesting parallel with guychapman, Guy Chapman, @SceptiGuy, @vGuyUK, and the Wikipedia Guys: JzG|Guy and Guy (Help!)
http://t.co/N7ErbunCV2
Wikipedia, what’s your motivation?
redd.it/1dk974
Didymus Judas Thomas’
http://redd.it/1dk974
Hipocritical Oath Blog
http://www.reddit.com/tb/1dk974

https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/wikipedia-whats-your-motivation/
“Hoxsey, too, used patient anecdotes and conspiracy theories to sustain his business in the absence of credible evidence for a cure;”

guychapman, thank you for bringing up the issue of:

“absence of credible evidence”

THAT describes you to a “T”

If the shoe fits, wear it

“How do you recommend we should tell the difference between Burzynski and his shill Merola, and the palpable fraud and quack Hoxsey?”

guychapman,

“How do you recommend we should tell the difference between guychapman and his shill Guy Chapman, and the palpable fraud and quack @SceptiGuy / @vGuyUK?”

Guy (Help!)

User:JzG/help|Help!

Trust me, Guy, nothing can help YOU

Boris Ogon 6 days ago

“One interesting element is that Merola himself hasn’t shown up to defend his vexatious DMCA claim, which he has effectively admitted to be meritless by offering to drop it if c0nc0rdance can somehow get the after-the-fact third-party mirrors to not include his E-mail address.”

Boris Ogon, did you entirely ignore the Forbes article?

"A well-known “vlogger” who goes by the handle “C0nc0rdance” reports receiving a DMCA take-down notice from Eric Merola after posting a video critical of Burzynski."

"According to C0nc0rdance:
He objected to my “Fair Use” of a small low-res image of his movie poster.”

“Instead, he drops a post on his Facebook page complaining about this article and mischaracterizing the situation, and 10 minutes later, his adherents appear and start babbling incoherently.”

Boris Ogon, are you referring to THIS?

My review of C0nc0rdance:
redd.it/1dm31j

http://redd.it/1dm31j

http://www.reddit.com/tb/1dm31j

https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/my-review-of-c0nc0rdance
Mr. Ogon, I guess you were too lazy to type it, sort of like your “research”?

Burzynski, The Movie shared a link.
about an hour ago

“Wow, and people say the “Skeptics” (aka Astroturf campaign) aren’t powerful and with the system behind them.”

“This is what happens when I take down a YouTube video making false claims against my film and Burzynski as well as illegally using copyrighted images of me without permission within (not to mention publishing my personal emails in which I received countless profanity filled threats also in their YouTube post, and they claim “we” threaten – this is the system fighting back, hard):

“Again, Eric: Section 512(f) isn’t entirely toothless.”

Mr. Ogon, though your “research,” IS

"Send some more bogus takedowns and see what happens."

Mr. Ogon, do you mean THIS?

Dr. Peter A. Lipson (and / or his Censor(s)) is a Coward: Critiquing

“A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics:”
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/dr-peter-a-lipson-and-or-his-censors-is-a-coward-critiquing-a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics
Dr. Lipson does not opine about the manufactured “hysteria” activities by the Burzynski “Critics,” that occurred on Twitter, YouTube, and other social media sites, which entailed this “fact-challenged” video being “mirrored” (duplicated), a ridiculous amount of times

Boris Ogon 5 days ago

For anyone unfamiliar with the tiresome tactic of “Didymus [Judas] Thomas” of trying to drive signal-to-noise ratio into the ground while being completely unable to respond coherently, this is not a bad place to start:
http://goo.gl/f59kT
He was eventually blocked under the “Competence is Required” policy and started shooting off typically garbled E-mails to Jimmy Wales demanding personal attention.

Mr. Ogon, do you have a relationship with Wikipedia?

Mr. Ogon, did you research THIS on Wikipedia?

[“Remedies may be appealed to, and amended by, Jimbo Wales, …”

([[WP:AP]] Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy 2.9 Appeal of decisions)]

Mr. Ogon, are you referring to THIS?
http://t.co/N7ErbunCV2
Wikipedia, what’s your motivation?
redd.it/1dk974
Didymus Judas Thomas’
http://redd.it/1dk974

http://www.reddit.com/tb/1dk974
Hipocritical Oath Blog
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/wikipedia-whats-your-motivation/
Mr. Ogon, why don’t you bring your coward self over to my blog where I do NOT censor comments, and let’s find out how you do under Sunshine and Blue Sky?

Boris Ogon

“You are right now having a live “debate” in front of more than 10,000 people, … “

3,907 views

Not so much

Waiting for the 10,000

4/19/2013 @ 9:43PM

Peter Lipson: “Speech is best countered by more speech”

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