Thawing out “The Skeptics” @FrozenWarning (FrozenBoring)

4/19/2013 @ 9:43PM

the below article was posted on Forbes (#Forbes):
onforb.es/11pwse9
A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics
http://t.co/vh3cgAR6hW
by:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlipson/2013/04/19/a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics
“Speech is best countered by more speech”

Peter Lipson (Dr. Peter A. Lipson @palMD)

Out of the 70 biased comments allowed by Forbes, “The Skeptic” Critics, FW (@FrozenWarning) came in 3rd with 10

“The Skeptic” Critics
TOTAL
18-guychapman –
13-Boris Ogon –
10-FW –
_8-rjblaskiewicz –
_6-lilady –
_3-Peter Lipson –
_3-JGC2013 –
_2-claire G –
_2-Vered Yasur –
_1-Paul Morgan –
_1-Lynne –
_1-Sharon Hill –
_1-oval wooki –
_1-Allen Jones –
70-TOTAL

@FrozenWarning commented:

“I have no particular interest int he (sic: “in the”) FDA as I work for the NHS in the UK…”

So, exactly WHAT does someone who works for the National Health Service in Britain, know about the United States Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Food and Drug Administration (FDA), National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and the U.S. Federal system?

Let’s find out, shall we ?

FW

“Ah, the usual Burzynski conspiracy theorists are here.”

FW, NO, I was NOT here, in a sense, because my comments were being “censored

Which “conspiracy theory” would you like to address?

1.
http://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page
2.
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/wikipedia-your-burzynski-bias-is-showing/
3.
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/05/forbes-learns-a-lesson-but-not-the-right-one-censorship-and-bias-re-a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics/
4.
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/important-the-live-debate-that-wasnt-a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics/
“As usual, not a single one of the valid criticisms are addressed.”

FW (also known as FrozenBoring)

It’s difficult to address any “allegedly” valid criticisms when Forbes’ censors are blocking (deleting) them

Dr. Peter A. Lipson (and / or his Censor(s)) is a Coward: Critiquing “A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics”:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/dr-peter-a-lipson-and-or-his-censors-is-a-coward-critiquing-a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics
“Time for this man to be stopped, 40 years is more than long enough to have produced the results of his numerous, badly run trials.”

FW, what year did Burzynski start clinical trials?

Because it sounds like you do NOT know what you’re talking about

Burzynski Clinical Trials (The SEC filings)
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/burzynski-clinical-trials-2
“Patients are free to choose whatever treatment they like, but that choice should be informed and sellers of miracle cures must not be allowed to mislead those patients.”

frozenwarning, NO patients are NOT free to choose whatever treatment they like:

Burzynski: United States Supreme Court:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-united-states-supreme-court
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FW

“And yet the American Cancer Society makes exactly the same criticisms of Burzynki that all other critics do:”
http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/pharmacologicalandbiologicaltreatment/antineoplaston-therapy
“No credible evidence.”

(FW (also known as @frozenwarning), where is their independent antineoplaston clinical study publications?)

FW, speaking of “[[no]] credible evidence,” where is the American Cancer Society’s antineoplaston clinical study?
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Burzynski – The Antineoplaston Randomized Japan Phase II Clinical Trial Study:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/burzynski-the-antineoplaston-randomized-japan-phase-ii-clinical-trial-study
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Review Article: Antineoplastons:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/review-article-antineoplastons
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Burzynski updates Scientific Publications page:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/burzynski-updates-scientific-publications-page
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Stanislaw Rajmund Burzynski Publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/stanislaw-rajmund-burzynski-publications
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Burzynski: China antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-china-antineoplaston-publications
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Burzynski and China / Taiwan, ROC:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/burzynski-china-taiwan-roc
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Burzynski, Ming-Cheng Liau, and Gi-Ming Lai:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/24/burzynski-ming-cheng-liau-gi-ming-lai
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Burzynski, China, and Dvorit D. Samid:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/burzynski-china-dvorit-d-samid
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Burzynski and Taiwan, ROC:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/burzynski-taiwan-roc
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Burzynski, Hideaki Tsuda (Japan), and the p53 gene a:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/burzynski-hitoshi-tsuda-japan-and-the-p53-gene
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Burzynski: Japan antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/burzynski-japan
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Burzynski: Egypt antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-egypt-antineoplaston-publication
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Antineoplastons, which were first described by Burzynski: https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/antineoplastons-which-were-first-described-by-burzynski
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Burzynski: Russia antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-russia-antineoplaston-publications
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Burzynski: South Korea antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-south-korea-antineoplaston-publications
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Burzynski: Poland antineoplaston publications:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-poland-antineoplaston-publications
FW, Dr. Linus Pauling, winner of two (2) Nobel Prizes; including one (1) in his “specialty” of chemistry, was of the “opinion” that quasicrystals did NOT exist:

Professor Daniel Shechtman proved Dr. Pauling (“There is no such thing as quasicrystals, only quasi- scientists.”) wrong, and won a Nobel Prize in that same field of “specialty,” chemistry

FW, have you won a Nobel Prize, and why should anyone care what your biased opinion of Dr. Burzynski is?

FW

“junkeroo, when you post something rational and intelligible, I will happily respond.”

FW (also known as @frozenwarning), “when you post something rational and intelligible, I will happily respond.”
onforb.es/11pwse9

http://t.co/vh3cgAR6hW

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlipson/2013/04/19/a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics
“Instead of cherry picking 20 year old newspaper articles, can I suggest that you try and explain why Burzynski has started 60+ trials, finished one, and never reported the results in peer reviewed journals as any reputable scientist should do?”

FW, have you read these?

Burzynski: What happens when a clinical trial is over?
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-what-happens-when-a-clinical-trial-is-over
The “National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH)

Cancer Clinical Trials

15. What happens when a clinical trial is over?
http://m.cancer.gov/topics/factsheets/clinical-trials
advises:

“The results of clinical trials are OFTEN published in peer-reviewed scientific journals”

” … WHETHER OR NOT the results are published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal … “

This makes it clear that clinical trial results “are OFTEN” published, but sometimes they are “NOT” published “in a peer-reviewed scientific journal”

“As for this mythical Phase 3 trial, which was registered in 2010 and has yet to recruit a single patient, in a tumour that is relatively curable by real medicine.”

“I suspect permission to do this was an attempt by the FDA to force Burzynski to do a decent RCT.”

“Unfortunately it backfired, because he seems quite happy to never start this trial, instead using it as a marketing tool, in the same way as he is happy to use individual patients.”

FW, why was the FDA requiring “radiation” in the phase 3 clinical trial?

… only obstacles now are $300 million Dollars needed to pay for final phase of clinical testing-and FDA requiring children with inoperable brainstem glioma to also undergo radiation treatment in Phase 3 trials, claiming it would be “unethical” not to do so
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FW

““Making people undergo clinical trials that hold no promise” – Quite, it is abhorrent that Burzynski does this, and has been doing it for many years.”

FW (also known as @frozenwarning), has no proof that anyone is “Making people undergo clinical trials…”

FW continues:

“The FDA was ordered by a scientifically illiterate judge to allow these trials, they had no choice.”

FW again makes an unsubstantiated claim

“That the FDA hasn’t stopped this charade is bizarre and inexcusable IMO.”

FW, the FDA knows what is going on, unlike you

“Hopefully that will soon happen.”

FW, it doesn’t look like it:
http://www.china-burzynski.com

http://www.china-burzynski.com/lczl/bingrengushi_135135.html

http://www.china-burzynski.com/lxwm
“There is, as yet, no evidence that he has cured any type of cancer, all we have are a few, mainly historical anecdotes.”

FW, have you seen this?

“The FDA’s Drug Review Process: Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective” advises:

“[T]he emphasis in Phase 2 is on EFFECTIVENESS”

“This phase aims to obtain PRELIMINARY DATA on whether the drug works in people who have a certain disease or condition”

“Phase 3 studies begin if EVIDENCE of EFFECTIVENESS is shown in Phase 2″

“These studies gather more information about safety and EFFECTIVENESS, studying different populations and different dosages and using the drug in combination with other drugs”
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/resourcesforyou/consumers/ucm143534.htm
“By the way, the Phase 3 trial that is registered to Burzynski is not for brain tumours, sorry to disappoint you.”

FW, are you saying that you do NOT know what you are writing about?

Because, that is what it looks like to me

Burzynski’s Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Form 10-Q for the quarterly period ended 5/31/2010 states:

1/13/2009 Company announced Company had reached an agreement with FDA for Company to move forward with pivotal Phase III clinical trial of combination Antineoplaston therapy plus radiation therapy in patients with newly diagnosed, diffuse, intrinsic brainstem gliomas (DBSG)

Agreement was made under FDA’s Special Protocol Assessment procedure, meaning design and planned analysis of Phase III study is acceptable to support regulatory submission seeking new drug approval

2/1/2010 Company entered into agreement with Cycle Solutions, Inc., dba ResearchPoint to initiate and manage pivotal Phase III clinical trial of combination Antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 plus radiation therapy (RT) in patients with newly-diagnosed, diffuse, intrinsic brainstem glioma

ResearchPoint is currently conducting feasibility assessment

ResearchPoint has secured interest and commitment from number of sites selected

Upon completion of assessment, randomized, international phase III study will commence

Study’s objective is to compare overall survival of children with newly-diagnosed DBSG who receive combination Antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 plus RT versus RT alone

FW

“So you’d rather get your information from an advertising film than doctors, scientists and researchers.”

Dr. Burzynski is a doctor, as is his wife, and if you look at the co-authors on his clinical trial publications, and actually research them, you can determine what they are, as well

“That’s your choice, misguided though it is.”

If anyone has been “misguiding” anyone, I would say that it is the author, you, and a number of other individuals who posted comments

“Don’t expect rational people to stop trying to stop Burzynski though.”

I do NOT see that you’ve been “rational

“What he is doing is unscientific, unethical and immoral.”

It’s good to learn that you are now judge, jury, and executioner

You remind me of Wikipedia

“Also, the moon landings were real.”

FW, it’s good to learn that at least you got one thing correct

FW

“I have no particular interest int he (sic: “in the”) FDA as I work for the NHS in the UK, which also doesn’t support Burzynski due to the lack of evidence on efficacy and safety, and the dubious practices.”

FW, sounds like you could use a little help, just like Dr. Lipson:

Burzynski Clinical Trials (The SEC filings)
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/burzynski-clinical-trials-2
“Merola doesn’t investigate, he is a blind disciple of Burzynski.”

FW, from what I can tell, if anyone has proven to be a “blind disciple,” it has been YOU

“Not once has he addressed the perfectly valid criticisms.”

FW, I said it before and I’ll say it again:

It’s a bit hard to address anything when Forbes is censoring (deleting) your comments

“Let’s look at it this way, if Burzynski had a 25% success rate, why has he not published this miraculous data?”

“Yet again, you show that Burzynski supporters do not know what they are reading.”

FW, on the subject of people NOT knowing what they are reading, you do NOT appear very knowledgeable, considering your lack of any citation(s), reference(s), and / or links
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FW

“Erm, what conflict of interest?”

FW (also known as @frozenwarning), your “conflict of interest” with “facts

“Are you saying that every single health professional has a vested interest in not curing cancer?”

“Do you know how utterly, completely, fruit looping bonkers that is?”

“Seriously, get a grip.”

Do you know how utterly, completely, fruit looping bonkers that is?

Seriously, get a grip.

“Sadly Burzynski isn’t following FDA standards, as their warning letters and current inspection shut down proves.”

FW, being from the United Kingdom, are you even knowledgeable about the FDA warning letter process?

“He’s been doing his “research” for 40 years.”

“How long do you think he should be allowed to continue without showing his data?”

FW, what do you call THIS?

Burzynski Clinical Trials (The SEC filings)
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/burzynski-clinical-trials-2
“As I said earlier, the Phase 3 trial has been registered since 2010 and Burzynski shows no inclination to start it, having NOT A SINGLE PATIENT RECRUITED.”

FW, as I said earlier, did you pay attention to this?

Burzynski: Not every cancer clinical trial taking place in the United States is listed on our NCI clinical trials database:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/burzynski-not-every-cancer-clinical-trial-taking-place-in-the-united-states-is-listed-on-our-nci-clinical-trials-database
Burzynski’s Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Form 10-Q for the quarterly period ended 5/31/2010 states:

1/13/2009 Company announced Company had reached an agreement with FDA for Company to move forward with pivotal Phase III clinical trial of combination Antineoplaston therapy plus radiation therapy in patients with newly diagnosed, diffuse, intrinsic brainstem gliomas (DBSG)

Agreement was made under FDA’s Special Protocol Assessment procedure, meaning design and planned analysis of Phase III study is acceptable to support regulatory submission seeking new drug approval

2/1/2010 Company entered into agreement with Cycle Solutions, Inc., dba ResearchPoint to initiate and manage pivotal Phase III clinical trial of combination Antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 plus radiation therapy (RT) in patients with newly-diagnosed, diffuse, intrinsic brainstem glioma

ResearchPoint is currently conducting feasibility assessment

ResearchPoint has secured interest and commitment from number of sites selected

Upon completion of assessment, randomized, international phase III study will commence

Study’s objective is to compare overall survival of children with newly-diagnosed DBSG who receive combination Antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 plus RT versus RT alone

” … only obstacles now are $300 million $s needed to pay for final phase of clinical testing-and FDA requiring children with inoperable brainstem glioma to also undergo radiation treatment in Phase 3 trials, claiming it would be “unethical” not to do so”

why was the FDA requiring “radiation ” in the phase 3 clinical trial?

“I’ll tell you what these patients lose, they lose time, and quality of life, and hundreds of thousands of dollars on an unproven therapy that they are being misled about, and no-one in that situation deserves that.”

FW, isn’t EVERY drug in the clinical trial process “unproven therapy,” until such time as the FDA approves it?

Are you saying that because EVERY drug in the clinical trial process is “unproven therapy,” there should be NO clinical trials AT ALL?

FW

“Hah, if the FDA took any notice of the criticism, then I’m glad to hear it, though if Burzynski had not conducted his trials in an unethical and unscientific way, which was obvious merely from what his patients reported, they would have had no reason to shut his operation down.”

FW, what information do you have from the FDA that supports your comments?

“Why continue?”

“Well, there’s the so called gene targeted therapy that he still peddles for vast amounts of money, which isn’t gene targeted at all, merely a way of selling random scattergun, often off label chemotherapy.”

FW, where are your reliable independent sources (citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s)?

“There are no retainers, that’s another of your usual batshit theories, used instead of answering the questions.”

FW, I’m still waiting for you to answer my questions

“Classy of you to use my family bereavements in such a way though.”

“I can assure you, they got the best care available and luckily no quack ever tried to con them. If they had, they would have got short shrift.”

FW, so, unfortunately, even though your family “got the best care available,” they still passed?

Which also happens to Burzynski
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“The U.S. v. Article’~ court stated that the FDA’s responsibility was to protect the ultimate consumer, which included protection of “the ignorant, the unthinking and the credulous.”‘

FW, which are YOU ?

FW (@frozenwarning FrozenBoring), welcome to the “MUD Club”

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, and as for the rest of you who have FW (@frozenwarning) working for you at the UK National Health Service, may GOD have mercy
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/paging-doctor-david-h-gorski-paging-doctor-david-h-gorski-theres-mud-in-your-ears-doktor-gorski/
Here is the BIAS exhibited by Forbes, as far as whose comments they did NOT “censor”

+ = “The Skeptic” Critics

– = Questioning “The Skeptic” Critics
+ = 70
– = 44

+ = 25 more

(pg. 1)
rjblaskiewicz –
guychapman –
Peter Lipson –
rjblaskiewicz –
Vered Yasur –
Angel of Life +
rjblaskiewicz –
guychapman –
guychapman –
Krista Cashatt +

(pg. 2)
Boris Ogon –
junkeeroo +
Boris Ogon –
Sarah
junkeeroo +
junkeeroo +
Boris Ogon –
rjblaskiewicz –
Kendra Sue Too +
Boris Ogon –

(pg. 3)
junkeeroo +
Boris Ogon –
junkeeroo +
guychapman –
FW –
Angel of Life +
rjblaskiewicz –
randy hinton +
Boris Ogon –
rjblaskiewicz –

(pg. 4)
lilady –
Vered Yasur –
junkeeroo +
Tina Patterson +
chriswinter +
guychapman –
Angel of Life +
Boris Ogon –
JGC2013 –
guychapman –

(pg. 5)
lilady –
Angel of Life +
Boris Ogon –
FW –
junkeeroo +
Angel of Life +
Peter Lipson –
Angel of Life +
junkeeroo +
Boris Ogon –

(pg. 6)
Paul Morgan –
guychapman –
JGC2013 –
junkeeroo +
FW –
junkeeroo +
rjblaskiewicz –
FW –

Angel of Life +
Angel of Life +

(pg. 7)
Angel of Life +
FW –
AstroturfWatch +
FW –

junkeeroo +
junkeeroo +
Angel of Life +
Peter Lipson –
AstroturfWatch +
AstroturfWatch +

(pg. 8)
FW –
AstroturfWatch +
Angel of Life +
FW –
FW –
AstroturfWatch +
FW –
rjblaskiewicz –
Boris Ogon –
Boris Ogon –

(pg. 9)
Lynne –
guychapman –
guychapman –
guychapman –
guychapman –
randy hinton +
guychapman –
Boris Ogon –
Boris Ogon –
guychapman –

(pg. 10)
guychapman –
randy hinton +
guychapman –
Sharon Hill –
oval wooki –
randy hinton +
guychapman –
JGC2013 –
guychapman –
AstroturfWatch +

(pg. 11)
guychapman –
Allen Jones –
claire G –
claire G –
randy hinton +
lilady –
Didymus Thomas +
lilady –
Didymus Thomas +
lilady –

(pg. 12)
Didymus Thomas +
lilady –
Didymus Thomas +
Didymus Thomas +
Didymus Thomas +
Didymus Thomas +

“The Skeptic” Critics
TOTAL
18-guychapman –
13-Boris Ogon –
10-FW –
_8-rjblaskiewicz –
_6-lilady –
_3-Peter Lipson –
_3-JGC2013 –
_2-claire G –
_2-Vered Yasur –
_1-Paul Morgan –
_1-Lynne –
_1-Sharon Hill –
_1-oval wooki –
_1-Allen Jones –
70-TOTAL

Questioning “The Skeptic” Critics
TOTAL
12-junkeeroo +
10-Angel of Life +
_7-Didymus Thomas +
_6-AstroturfWatch +
_5-randy hinton +
_1-Krista Cashatt +
_1-Kendra Sue Too +
_1-Tina Patterson +
_1-chriswinter +
44-TOTAL
_1-Sarah (neutral)

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