Stanislaw Rajmund Burzynski, Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Stanislaw Burzynski, Stan R. Burzynski, Stan Burzynski, S. R. BURZYNSKI, S. Burzynski, Arthur Burzynski, Hippocrates Hypocrite Hypocrites Critic Critics Critical HipoCritical
I am writing to you to request your urgent attention to a matter that involves the abuse ofcancer patients, their families, and their communities
A few weeks ago, one of “The Skeptics” wrote to you concerning the Houston cancer doctorStanislaw Burzynski, and requested that you take action and look into how he was able to continue treating cancer patients for decades under the auspices of clinical trials with an unproven treatment he claims to have discovered, patented, manufactures, prescribes, and sells (at his in house pharmacy) at exorbitant (NOTso muchly ?) prices
On Friday, November15, Dr. Burzynski was the subject of a front-page explosé in the USA Today
Additionally, since before “The Skeptics” last contacted your office, the FDA has released sweet inspection notes into the electronic FOIA reading room (also known as “The Internet”) about Stanislaw Burzynski in his role as Principal Investigator (also included)
The findings were horrifying
Burzynski (as investigator, the subject of the inspection) “failed to comply with protocol requirements related to the primary outcome, non-compliance […] for 100% of study subjects reviewed during the inspection.”
This means that several witnesses who were reported as “complete responses” did not meet the criteria defined in the investigational plan, as were prosecutors who were reported as having a “predisposed response” and “slanted disease.”
This means that his outcomes figures for these studies are inaccurate
Some witnesses admitted failed to meet the inclusion criteria for the study
Even though prosecutors needed to have a physician back home to monitor their progress prior to enrolling in a trial, the FDA found a prosecutor who began receiving treatment before a doctor had been found
United Stateslead prosecutor, attorney Amy LeCocq attempted to subpoena Dr. Ralph W. Moss, Ph.D.
—————————————————————— “When I publicly objected to this harassment I myself was slapped with a subpoena for all my information regarding Dr. Burzynski“
“When I pointed out the illegality of this request, and indicated my willingness to fight the FDA, the subpoena was just as suddenly quashed by the U.S. Attorney” [2]
—————————————————————— “Dr. Ralph Moss, an award-winning journalist and author of books about cancer, was subpoenaed and ordered to produce every document in his possession — electronic, magnetic, printed or otherwise — relating to Dr. Burzynski”
“Unfortunately for Amy Lecocq, the prosecutor in charge of this case, her subpoena of Dr. Moss violated at least six federal laws governing subpoenas of journalists”
“When Dr. Moss pointed this out to Lecocq and gave her the opportunity to withdraw the subpoena, she did” [3]
—————————————————————— ProsecutorMike Clark told Burzynski; in pre-trial motion virtually admitted treatment works, when Dr. Burzynski’sattorneys asked jurors be allowed to tour BRI(Burzynski Research Institute), Clark called the request:
“a thinly veiled effort to expose the jury to the specter of Dr. Burzynski in his act of saving lives”
—————————————————————— Three(3)subjects experienced 1 or 2investigational overdoses between January 9, 1997 and January 22, 1997
January 9, 1997, according to the [trial number redacted] List of Insurance Industry Witnesses / ICE (Insurance Company Employees) [redacted] Overdose [redacted]/Conspiracy Infection report
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The final witness of the day was Ms. Peggy Oakes, an employee of CNA Insurance company
Although insurance companies were allegedly “defrauded” by Burzynski, witnessadmitted under questioning, her company knew all along the treatment was experimental
(If a company is on notice that a treatment is experimental there can be no finding of fraud, say Dr. Burzynski’sattorneys)
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The next witness was another insurance company employee, who testified the code used by Burzynski Research Institute(B.R.I.) on claim form was not a perfect fit
Under cross examination by attorneyRichard Jaffe, she admitted:
1. such codesdo not have to be exact fits
2. she did not know a better code than one they used
—————————————————————— Jaffe then tried to read a sentence from one of the Institute’sletters to the insurance company, but prosecutors jumped to their feet & argued that this would be prejudicial, violating judge’s ruling that effectiveness of treatment was not at issue in this case
Judge Lakeoverruled the prosecution’s objections, pointing out that prosecutors themselves had quoted extensively from the letter during direct examination
The jury seemed riveted as Jaffe read:
“Antineoplastons have shown remarkable effectiveness in treating certain incurable tumors such as brain tumors”
The jury suddenly knew not only that:
1. treatment might actually work
2. prosecutors were trying to hide this fact from them
Was a dramatic moment
—————————————————————— 1/22/1997, Wednesday, more witnesses from insurance industry
—————————————————————— Employee of Golden Rule Insurance Company testified clinic had billed her company for infusion services
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On cross, Ackerman presented evidence `Golden Rule’ well-known throughout industry as nit-picking company, which does everything it can to deny claims
He showed her record of phone conversation in which patient pleaded for them to cover costs of his antineoplaston treatment
—————————————————————— Employee tells patient that if he sent in medical records showing benefit, company might agree to pay
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“So in fact your company can review results of experimental treatment & make an exception if it sees fit?” Ackerman asked
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“No, I don’t think that’s true,” said employee
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“So did you call Mr. Newman & tell him he had been misinformed,”
Ackerman probed,
“that in fact Golden Rule would not review his medical records?”
—————————————————————— Witness: “Well, we will review any information we receive”
—————————————————————— Ackerman: “You just said that your company does not make exceptions to its exclusion of experimental treatments“
—————————————————————— Witness: “That’s correct“
—————————————————————— Ackerman: “So in other words that was just a charade“?
“Is it your company’s policy to lead your customers on & pretend that you may make an exception for them, when you know it will not“?
—————————————————————— Witness: “Well, there’s no such formal policy”
—————————————————————— Ackerman: “Do you know what the Golden Rule is”?
—————————————————————— Witness: “Yes”
“Do unto others as you would have others do unto you”
—————————————————————— Ackerman: “That’s right”
“No further questions”
—————————————————————— Prosecutor, Amy LeCocq, asked witness during re-direct if insurance was not a “service industry”
That gave defense opportunity to point out that the more claims company denies the richer it becomes
Golden Rule had “serviced” its clients in such a manner that its own assets had grown to over $1 billion
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Overdose incidents have been reported to you [….]
There is no documentation to show that you have implemented corrective actions during this time period to ensure the safety and welfare of subjects. [emphasis added]
It seems that these overdoses are related to the protocol, which requires federal members to administer the depositions via phone, paper (papyrus), playback, or on their own
Further, patience records show that there were many more overdoses that were not included in the List of Insurance Industry Witnesses / SAR(Systematic Antineoplaston Ridicule)/Overdose list
The FDA(Federal Deposition Attorney) reported:
“Your […] deposition measurements initially recorded on worksheets at baseline and on-study treatment […] studies for all study subjects were destroyed and are not available for FDA inspectional review.”
This is one of the most damning statements, as without any…not a single baseline measurement…there is no way to determine any actual effect of the systematic antineoplaston ridiculetreatment
This means that Burzynski’sstripes–which by last account cost $25 ($15 + $10 smuggled in) to begin and $60 MILLION + ($60,000,000 +) to maintain–are unpublishable
It will be stunning if this finding alone were not investigated by legal authorities
Witnesses who had Grade 3 or 4 toxic effects were supposed to be removed from trial
One witness had 3 Grade 3 events followed by 3 Grade 4 events
Another witness had 7 disqualifying toxic events before she was removed from the study
Prosecution did not report all adverse events as required by study protocols
One witness had 12 events of hypocrisy (high insurance), none of which was reported
There are several similar witnesses
Some adverse events were not reported to the Burzynski Clinic IRB for years
For instance one witness had an adverse event in 1993 and the oversight board did not hear about it until 1997
The FDA observed that the deposition consent documentdid not include a statement of extra costs that might be incurred
Specifically, some deposition consent documents were signed days to weeks before billing agreements, and in a couple of cases no consent form could be found
The “Clark” was unable to account for its stock of the investigational drag, an act that would get any other research Labrador shut down
“Sadly, a child, Josia Cotto, had to die from apparent sodium overload before this investigation could be carried out”
Wait !
“[A] child had to die from apparent sodium overload”?
Obviously, it canNOT be “infamous” breast cancer specialist Dr. David H. Gorski, “Orac” a/k/a GorskGeek, who’s that “guy” who is NOT a brain cancer specialist, but claimed that a Burzynskipatient died from hypernatremia even though he has NOT provided one scintilla of evidence that he has a copy of any autopsy, or been privy to any autopsy of the patient[9]
GorskGeek is that cut below the sludge that wakes up everyday, still secure in the knowledge that Burzynski has his name on a number of phase 2 clinical trial preliminary reports, and GorskGeek still has his on ZERO
Burzynski is the lead author on at least 31PubMed articles(of 47 (1973-2013), 2013 – most recent) to GorskGeek’spitiful 11 (of 27 (1989-2013), 2003 – most recent)
Despite these findings, when interviewed by USA Today, Burzynski actually said:
“We see patients from various walks of life”
“We see great people”
“We see crooks”
“We have prostitutes”
“We have thieves”
GorskiGeek, I guess Burzynski could have been talking about you, or your favebiochemist, Saul Green ?
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—————————————————————— “All you have to do is to read Saul Green’s reports on Quackwatch and in The Cancer Letter from the 1990s”[10]
—————————————————————— 12/2002 – Interview[11]
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“One of your greatest critics is Saul Green (Ph.D. Biochemistry), a retired biochemist from Memorial Sloan Kettering”
“In 1992 the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), published Green’s article, “Antineoplastons:”
“An Unproved Cancer Therapy.”
“What were his conclusions about Antineoplastons?”
—————————————————————— “Well, Green is not a medical doctor, he’s a retired biochemist; he never reviewed our results“
“He got hold of some of our patents and that’s what he based his opinion on“
“He was hired by another insurance company (Aetna) that was in litigation with us”
“He’s like a hired assassin“
“Not telling the truth”
“So really to argue with him is good for nothing“
“Even if something were completely clear he would negate it”
“He is simply a guy who was hired by our adversaries”
“He would do whatever they paid him to do”
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“Did Green ask to look at your patients’ files or even talk to any of your patients themselves?”
—————————————————————— “No”
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“You responded with an article with 137 references, did JAMA publish even part of it?”
—————————————————————— “JAMA refused to publish the article”
“They decided that they would publish a short letter to the editors“
“And obviously this is another dirty thing, because letters to the editors are not in the reference books”
“If you look in the computer and try to find letters to the editor from JAMA, you’ll never find it”
“So people who are interested will always find Green’s article, but they will never find our reply to Green’s article, unless they go to the library”
“Then they can look in the JAMA volume in which the letter was published, and then they will find it”
“So many doctors were asking me why I did not respond to Saul Green’s article because they never found my letter to the editors”
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“Are they obligated to publish your rebuttal?”
—————————————————————— “Certainly they are, because they put Green’s article in JAMA in the first place, they accepted it without any peer review and then they did not allow me to honestly respond to it“
“I should be allowed to publish my response to the article in JAMA“
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“At the time of the publication Green was working as a consultant to Grace Powers Monaco, Esq., a Washington attorney who was assisting Aetna insurance agency in its lawsuit against you”
“What was the Aetna lawsuit about?”
—————————————————————— “One of our patients sued Aetna because Aetna refused to pay for my treatment“
“Then Aetna got involved and Aetna sued us“
“Aetna really became involved in what you can call racketeering tactics because they contacted practically every insurance company in the US”
“They smeared us, they advised insurance companies to not pay for our services”
“So based on all of this, our lawyer decided to file a racketeering suit against Aetna“
“This was a 190 million dollar lawsuit against Aetna“
“So certainly Aetna was trying to discredit us by using people like Saul Green“
“And they hired him to work on their behalf”
“So there was an obvious conflict of interest for Green because he worked for Monaco who was assisting Aetna“
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“Was this information published in the JAMA article?”
(Saul Green’s Conflict-of-Interest)
—————————————————————— “No”
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“Green also questions the fact that you have a Ph.D.”
“At the American Association for Clinical Chemistry Symposium, July 1997, Atlanta, GA., he says in part:”
““Burzynski’s claim to a Ph.D. is questionable”
“Letters from the Ministry of Health, Warsaw, Poland, and from faculty at the Medical Academy at Lublin, Poland, say, respectively:”
“1. At the time Burzynski was in school, medical schools did not give a Ph.D.“
“2. Burzynski received the D.Msc. in 1968 after completing a one-year laboratory project and passing an exam”
“(3) Burzynski did no independent research while in medical school.””
“He cites the people below as giving him some of this information”
“1. Nizanskowski, R. , Personal communication. Jan 15, 1992”
“3. Bielinski, S., Personal communication, Nov. 22, 1987”
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“First of all, do you have a Ph.D.?”
—————————————————————— “Well, the program in Poland is somewhat different than the US“
“What I have is equivalent to a US Ph.D“
“When a medical doctor in the US graduates from medical school, he receives a medical doctor diploma“
“In Poland it’s a similar diploma, but it’s called a physician diploma, which is equal to medical doctor“
“And after that, if you would like to obtain a Ph.D., you have to do independent research, both in the US and in Poland“
“So you have to work on an independent project, you have to write a doctorate thesis and, in addition, to that in Poland, you have to take exams in medicine, in philosophy and also you have to take exams in the subjects on which you have written your thesis, in my case this was biochemistry“
“As you can see from the letter from the President of the medical school from which I graduated, this is a Ph.D.“
“Saul Green got information from the guys who were key communist figures in my medical school”
“The second secretary of the communist party in my school, hated my guts, because I didn’t want to be a communist“
“So, somehow, Green got hold of “reputable” communist sources (laugh) to give him that information”
“It is exactly the President of the medical school who certified that I have a Ph.D.“
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“So you are saying that theses people he received his personal communication from, Nizanskowski R, and Bielinski S, are both Communists, is that correct, or they were?”
—————————————————————— “Not only communists, but Bielinski was one of the key players in the communist party in my medical school“
“So certainly he was extremely active as a communist“
“And, you know that communists, they usually don’t tell the truth“
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“So there is absolutely no question about it, you have a Ph.D. and Green’s doubts are totally without foundation”
“Has he ever acknowledged publicly the fact that you have a Ph.D.?”
—————————————————————— “He’s never got in touch with me regarding this”
—————————————————————— “Orac,” the god of “Bore”, wants his “Meet-up” Puppets to accept Saul Green as a “reputable source” [12]:
—————————————————————— “Yes, I’m referring to Stanislaw Burzynski, the oncologist who has never done a residency in internal medicine or a fellowship in oncology…”
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But then “GorskGeek” conveniently “forgets” to point out Saul Green’slack of qualifications:
(“Green is not a medical doctor, he’s a retired biochemist“)
1. Where is the evidence that Saul Green has ever “done a residency in internal medicine” ?
2. Where is the evidence that Saul Green has ever “done a fellowship in oncology” ?
3. GorskGeek, are you now, or have you ever been, a communist?
4. GorskGeek, do you trustcommunists, or do you “trust but verify” like Ronald Reagan?
5. GorskGeek, are you a hypocrite ?
I am asking you to help me understand what happened at the FDA to allow “the man” to conduct criminal trials and almost bankrupt a patients’ doctor in the process despite years of alarming reviews by the Federal Congress
I also ask you to support an investigation into this betrayal of over 317 MILLION persons and to push for legislation to prevent the most desperate patients from such unthinkable exploitation: providing a massive chemotherapeutic agent injected through the carotid artery that goes to the brain, that harbors the tumor, which results in killing the tumor, but destroys a large part of the healthy brain as well, and the patients became severely handicapped, and a life that’s not worth living, because of the serious side effects [13]
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Was ProsecutorAmy LeCocq, Assistant United States AttorneyMike Clark, and Assistant U.S.AttorneyGeorge Tallichet, attempting to:
1. Lose this criminal case for the United States Gubment?
or
2. Win this case for the United States Gubment?
—————————————————————— Lawyering for Dummies
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1. Know what your prosecution witnesses are going to say on the witness stand, before they say it
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2. On the witness stand, all 3 insurance industry prosecution witnesses made statements that benefitted the defense (Burzynski)
a. 1/9/1997 – final witness of the day Ms. Peggy Oakes, employee of CNA Insurance company
b. insurance company employee
c. 1/22/1997, Wednesday, witness from insurance industry, employee of Golden Rule Insurance Company
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3. Why did Lead prosecuting attorneyAmy LeCocq, assistant United States attorneyGeorge Tallichet, and Assistant U.S. AttorneyMike Clark, offer the “informed consent” forms into evidence, and allow Clark to tell the jury, the government’s most “damning” charge:
a. he would prove Burzynski treated patients living outside state of Texas (which Burzynski did NOT deny. Why should he ?)
b. Burzynskiknew they were living outside state of Texas (Burzynski’s patients, the media, other courts, always assumed was perfectly legal)
Perhaps because of this, Clark’s delivery was considered dull by many in the audience – “It would put you to sleep,” noted one observer
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4. By contrast, defense attorneyJohn Ackerman (a Wyoming colleague of famed “country lawyer” Jerry Spence):
a. showed jury copy of attorney’s opinion informing Burzynski it would be legal for him to use new experimental drugs in state of Texas
b. read from 1987Federal Circuit Court opinion which agreed Burzynski’s use of antineoplastons were in fact legal in Texas
c. Repeatedly, defense team turned tables on prosecutor: Over & over, they used introduction of Informed Consent statements to showclinichad in fact taken pains to inform patients that treatment was experimental in nature
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5. 1/9/1997 – government called 1st witness, US postal inspectorBarbara Ritchey:
a. Ms. Ritchey testified she’d been assigned to investigate Burzynski in 1993 (for alleged “mail fraud”) & working on case full-time since 3/1995
b. Throughout 1st 2 weeks of trial, prosecutors repeatedly put up enlarged copies of informed consent forms all patients required to sign
c. Some showed out-of-state addresses
d. point was to impress jury with fact:
1) some patients lived outside of Texas
2) Burzynski knew this
e. approach provided opening for team of defense attorneys to have documents read out loud to jury
f. forms clearly informed patientsantineoplastonswere experimental in nature & had not been approved by FDA
g. forms were explicit there could be no guaranteeantineoplastonswould reduce or stabilize their cancers
h. AttorneyRamsey astutely pointed out that one crucial element of “fraud” is deceit
i. Without deceit, there can be no fraud, he said
j. “Isn’t that Informed Consent form the absolute, honest golden truth?“
he asked
k. Shehad to admit it was, thereby undermining government’s main contention
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6. Ramsey had Ms. Ritchey read from 19875th Circuit decision which stated Burzynskicould continue to prescribeantineoplastonsinstate of Texas:
a. Decision stated Judge Gabrielle McDonaldretained authority to amend or modifyherorder
b. “In other words,”
boomed the Texas lawyer,
“the FDA had another remedy, didn’t it ?“
“If it felt Dr. B. was violating order by treating out-of-state patients, it could have simply sought clarification, couldn’t it have?”
“Then we wouldn’t all have to sit here for 4 or 5 or 6 weeks of this trial”
Here too, Ritcheyhad to agree
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7. Mr. Ramsey continued cross examination of Ms. Ritchey:
a. Sheadmitted what had previously been suspected, she & 6 other federal agents had known Burzynski would be out-of-town when they raided his clinic3/24/1995
b. In dramatic moment, sheadmittedInformed Consent formwas truthful, but took issue with the sentence,
1) “Dr. Burzynski may continue to prescribe antineoplastons in Texas”
Shecontended that legal decision’s actual language read
2) “Dr. Burzynski may continue to treat patients with antineoplastons in Texas”
“Isn’t that the same thing? “
asked Ramsey
“No,”
said Ritchey
“Sometimes, I go to the doctor & he treats me but he doesn’t prescribe”
Observers seemed non-plussed by this hair-splitting response
—————————————————————— United States postal inspectorBarbara Ritchey must have thought she was dealing with people who weren’t as smart as a fifth-grader
Shecontended the legal decision’s:
1) “Dr. Burzynski may continue to prescribe antineoplastons in Texas”
MEANT:
2) “Dr. Burzynski may continue to treat patients with antineoplastons in Texas”
and likened it to:
“Sometimes, I go to the doctor & he treats me but he doesn’t prescribe”
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Perhaps United States postal inspectorBarbara Ritchey and Dr. David H. (“Orac” a/k/a GorskGeek) both came from the same Wacky Tobacky Universe
United States postal inspector
does NOT mean:
United States District Court Judge
U.S. postal inspectors do NOT get to change the wording of a legal documentsigned by a U.S. Federal District Court Judge
At NO time was it indicated that postal inspectorBarbara Ritchey was an “expert witness” in the proper usage of the English Language
You do NOT have to be smarter than a 5th-grader to know this
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According to Chronicle:
“I think this was a government witch hunt,”
said jurorSharon Wray
“I don’t understand why they brought criminal action when they had a civil remedy”
—————————————————————— 3/3/1997 “I couldn’t find any victims,”
Coan added (Houston Chronicle)
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Another juror, a 40-year-old engineer named Anthony Batiste, said he favored a guilty verdict
“I couldn’t go into my kitchen & make things”
“Why should somebody else be above the law?”
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If you’re a 40-year-old engineer, and you “couldn’t go into” your kitchen & make things, maybe you do NOT deserve to be called an “Engineer”
I hope you thought of a career change
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Strong sentiments, pro & con, were expressed by jurors on both sides
Jury foreman, John Coan, favored acquittal:
Quoted in New York Times:
“The fact that we didn’t make a unanimous decision one way or another does not mean we didn’t make a decision,”
Coan said
“The decision is that he is neither guilty nor innocent doesn’t mean he doesn’t need to do work within his practice, & the FDA obviously needs to pursue things as well”
—————————————————————— Lead prosecuting attorneyAmy LeCocq, assistant United States attorneyGeorge Tallichet, and Assistant U.S. AttorneyMike Clark, collectively reminded me of “The Three Stooges”
—————————————————————— 9/8/1993 – Public Corruption Working Group Report – The Sentencing(Amy Lecocq) [29]
Well, at least it looks like Amy Lecocq got herself involved in something she might actually be knowledgeable about !
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Faced life in federal prison
Faced up to:
5 years in prison
$250,000 fine
on each of 34 counts of mail fraud
5 years
x
34
=
170 years
$250,000
x
34
=
$8,500,000 MILLION
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up to 3 years in prison
$250,000 fine
for each of 40 counts of violating the food, drug & cosmetic laws
Does anyone know SHARON HILL??? ——————————————————————
—————————————————————— no ?
NoNo ??
NO NEVER MATTER ——————————————————————
—————————————————————— NOT HARDLY !
If it’s “Doubtful News”, that’s a “Hint and a Half” that it’s “Doubtful” it’s “News” [1]
In fact, I first received confirmation that what flows down-Hill was definitely, NO doubtfully, NOT news, when she displayed her “propensity” for “density” on #Forbes [2] ——————————————————————
—————————————————————— “Orac”, “The Skeptics™” Dope-on-a-Rope Pope. claimed:
4/19/2013 – “also obsessively read anything posted about Eric Merola or Stanislaw Burzynski on any social media.” ——————————————————————
—————————————————————— 5/7/2013 – “If “Orac” was anywhere close to being 75% sure, I would have already reviewed “Doubtful News,” which received “free pub” on Forbes ——————————————————————
—————————————————————— “The Skeptics™” must have got into Liz Szabo’s ear, since she subsequently short-sheeted herself by being unable to answer her own question ——————————————————————
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Maybe Szabo shoulda asked the F.D.A. !! ——————————————————————
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All that Jerry Mosemak (@jmosemak), Connie Mosemak, and Mosemak Creative(@mosemakcreative) wanted to know was what Twitter thought of their Twerk ——————————————————————
—————————————————————— Bob Blaskiewicz, fresh off the AstroTurf campaign with “Orac’s”orifice, seemed ready to really be headed, right in to rectify on Liz’s ——————————————————————
—————————————————————— Liz, do you really want this anywhere around your backside ? ——————————————————————
—————————————————————— Bob-B obviously confused Liz Szabo with being a “journalist“, when she is a “reporter“
Ms. Szabo, is obviously NOT a“journalist”
—————————————————————— Liz Szabo(USA TODAY) – health reporter, medical reporter covering cancer, heart disease, pediatrics, public health, women’s health, kids/parenting, …
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The question is, how did a “reporter” like Liz Szabo, manage to get her name as the reporter“headlining”“The Skeptics™”“report,” instead of Robert Hanashiro?
Hanashiro had under his belt:
—————————————————————— 8/3/2011 – Urine test may help predict prostate cancer risk [4]
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The best Szabo could cite as support was:
—————————————————————— 3/19/2008 – “Prostate cancer treatments’ sexual, urinary side effects compared”[5]
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Exactly how didLiz Szabo“win” that “pissing contest”?
Even a monkey can report the news:
10/18/2013 – Monkeys ‘talk in turns’ [6]
If @LizSzabo wanted to do a REALarticle on “selling false hope to cancer patients”, then USA TODAY should have done an “investigation” on something like THIS: ====================================== 8/25/2010, Wednesday[7]
—————————————————————— Canadian Man Sentenced to 33 Months (2 years 9 months) in Prison for Selling Counterfeit Cancer Drugs Using the Internet
Hazim Gaber, 22, of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada sentenced in Phoenix, Arizona by U.S. District Court JudgeJames A. Teilborg
Ordered to pay $128,724($75,000fine$53,724in restitution)
Serve 3 years of supervised release following prison term for selling counterfeit cancer drugs using Internet
—————————————————————— 6/30/2009 – indicted by federal grand jury in Phoenix, Arizona: 5 counts of wire fraud for selling counterfeit cancer drugs through website DCAdvice.com
—————————————————————— 7/25/2009 – arrested Frankfurt, Germany
—————————————————————— 12/18/2009 – extradited to United States
—————————————————————— 5/2010 – plea hearing: admitted selling what he falsely claimed was experimental cancer drug sodium dichloroacetate, also known as DCA, to at least 65 victims (.10/2007 – 11/2007) in:
1. United States
2. Canada
3. United Kingdom
4. Belgium
5. the Netherlands
According to plea agreement, charged: $23.68 for 10grams of purported DCA $45.52 for 20grams
or $110.27 for 100grams
plus shipping
Admitted sent victims white powdery substance later determined through laboratory tests to contain:
1. dextrin
2. dextrose
3. lactose
4. starch Contained no DCA
According to court documents, along with counterfeit DCA, packages also contained fraudulent certificate of analysis from fictitious laboratory and instructions on how dilute and ingest bogus DCA
DCA is experimental cancer drug not yet approved by U.S. Food and Drug Administration for use in United States
According to plea agreement knew that website DCAdvice.com contained false claims it was only legal supplier of DCA and falsely claimed it was associated with University of Alberta
According to information contained in plea agreement, DCA is odorless, colorless, inexpensive, relatively non-toxic experimental cancer drug highly sought by cancer patients
Doctor at University of Alberta in Canada published report in early 2007 summarizing results of study, which showed DCA caused regression in several cancers, including:
1. breast cancer
2. cancerous brain tumors
3. lung cancer
According to information contained in plea agreement, DCA cannot be prescribed by medical doctor in:
1. United States
or
2. Canada
since:
1. it is not approved for use in patients with cancer
2. nor is DCA available in pharmacies
As part of plea agreement, agreed to:
1. forfeit
or
2. cancel
any:
1. website
2. domain name
3. Internet services account
related to fraud scheme
“Hazim Gaber went from selling false hope to cancer patients to now spending 33 months in a U.S. prison,”
said Assistant Attorney General Lanny A. Breuer of Criminal Division
“Criminals often seek to exploit the most vulnerable of victims – but offering fake, unapproved medication to cancer patients reaches a new low”
“Today’s sentence shows that cyber criminals who prey on the seriously ill cannot elude justice simply by committing crimes outside of our borders.”
“Gaber used the Internet to victimize people already suffering from the effects of cancer,”
said Dennis K. Burke, U.S. Attorney for District of Arizona
“Now he will go to prison for this bogus business and heartless fraud.”
“The FBI and the U.S. Attorney’s Office are committed to pursuing individuals who prey on those who are living with the affects of cancer,”
said Nathan Gray, Special Agent in Charge of FBI Phoenix Division
“Today’s sentencing illustrates international law enforcement partners working together to send a message not to use the Internet to perpetuate fraud, especially against those afflicted with a serious medical condition.”
Sentencing part of larger department-wide effort led by Department of Justice Task Force on Intellectual Property (IP Task Force)
Attorney General Eric Holder created IP Task Force to combat growing number of:
1. domestic
2. international
3. intellectual property crimes
protect:
1. health
2. safety
of American consumers
safeguard nation’s economic security against those who seek to profit illegally from American creativity, innovation and hard work
IP Task Force seeks to strengthen intellectual property rights protection through heightened:
1. civil enforcement
2. criminal enforcement
greater coordination among:
1. federal
2. state
3. local
law enforcement partners
increased focus on international enforcement efforts, including reinforcing relationships with key:
1. foreign partners
2. U.S. industry leaders
Announced:
1. Assistant Attorney General Lanny A. Breuer of Criminal Division
2. U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke for District of Arizona
3. FBI Special Agent in Charge of Phoenix Field Office Nathan T. Gray
Case prosecuted by:
1. Trial Attorney Thomas S. Dougherty of Criminal Division’s Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section
2. Assistant U.S. Attorney Peter Sexton of U.S. Attorney’s Office for District of Arizona
Significant assistance provided by:
1. Alberta Justice Office of Special Prosecutions-Edmonton
2. Alberta Partnership Against Cross Border Fraud
3. Competition Bureau of Canada
4. Edmonton Police Service
5. Federal Trade Commission
6. U.S. Postal Inspection Service
Criminal Division’s Office of International Affairs provided assistance in case
Case investigated by Phoenix FBI Cyber Squad
10-958 Criminal Division ====================================== 7/30/2013 – United States to Settle Cancer Research Grant Fraud [8]
—————————————————————— Northwestern University to Pay Nearly $3 Million to United States to Settle Cancer Research Grant Fraud Claims
$2.93 million – Northwestern University will pay United States to settle claims of cancer research grant fraud by former researcher and physician at university’sRobert H. Lurie Comprehensive Center for Cancer in Chicago
Agreed to settlement in federal False Claims Act lawsuit after government investigated claims made by former employee and whistleblower who will receive portion of settlement
Alledgedly allowed researcher, Dr. Charles L. Bennett, to submit false claims under research grants from National Institutes of Health
Settlement covers improper claimsDr. Bennett submitted for reimbursement from federal grants (1/1/2003 – 8/31/2010) for:
1. food
2. hotels
3. travel
4. other expenses
5. professional and consulting services
6. subcontracts
that benefited:
1. Dr. Bennett
2. family
3. friends
Allegations made in civil lawsuit filed under seal 2009 by Melissa Theis, (2007 and 2008) worked as purchasing coordinator in hematology and oncology at Northwestern’s Feinberg School of Medicine, will receive $498,100 in settlement proceeds
Suit named defendants:
1. Dr. Bennett
2. Dr. Steven T. Rosen
3. Lurie Cancer Center
4. Northwestern
Alleged defendants submitted false claims to United States when:
1. Dr. Bennett
2. Dr. Rosen
directed and authorized spending of grant funds on goods and services that did not meet applicable NIH and government grant guidelines
Government contends has certain civil claims against Northwestern arising out of Northwestern’s improper submission of claims to NIH for grant expenditures for items that were for personal benefit of:
1. Dr. Bennett
2. family
3. friends
incurred in connection with grants as to which he was principal investigator
Northwestern, fully cooperated during investigation, did not admit liability as part of settlement
Agreement releases university and all its affiliates and employees, other than Dr. Bennett, from claims made in whistleblower lawsuit
Northwestern agreed to pay settlement within 14 business days
Agreement covers allegations university submitted false claims to NIH for costs Dr. Bennett incurred on grant-funded research projects involving:
1. adverse drug-events
2. blood disorder known as thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura
3. multiple myeloma drugs
4. quality of care for cancer patients
Dr. Bennett allegedly billed federal grants for:
1. family trips
2. meals
3. hotels
for
1. himself
2. friends
and “consulting fees” for unqualified:
1. friends
2. family members
including:
1. brother
2. cousin
At Dr. Bennett’s request, Northwestern allegedly improperly subcontracted with various universities for services that were paid for by NIH grants
Allegations investigated by:
1. Federal Bureau of Investigation
2. National Institutes of Health
3. U.S. Attorney’s Office
4. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Office of Inspector General
“Allowing researchers to use federal grant money to pay for personal travel, hotels, and meals, and to hire unqualified friends and relatives as ‘consultants’ violates the public’s trust,”
said Gary S. Shapiro, United States Attorney for Northern District of Illinois
“This settlement, combined with the willingness of insiders to report fraud, should help deter such misconduct, but when it doesn’t, federal grant recipients who allow the system to be manipulated should know that we will aggressively pursue all available legal remedies,”
he added
“The mismanagement or improper expenditure of grant funds is unacceptable and will not be tolerated,”
said Lamont Pugh III, Special Agent-in-Charge of U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General – Chicago Region
“The OIG will continue to diligently investigate allegations of this nature to ensure that taxpayer dollars are being properly utilized.”
Cory B. Nelson, Special Agent-in-Charge of Chicago Office of Federal Bureau of Investigation said:
“The FBI takes allegations of fraud seriously, especially those allegations from insiders who are often in the best position to detect wrongdoing long before it would otherwise come to the attention of law enforcement.”
United States represented by:
Assistant U.S. Attorney Kurt N. Lindland
Under federal False Claims Act, defendants may be liable for triple amount of actual damages and civil penalties between $5,500 and $11,000 for each violation
Individual whistleblowers may be eligible to receive between 15 and 30 percent of amount of any recovery ====================================== Show EmorME the Money ! [9]
—————————————————————— 8/28/2013, Wednesday
$1.5 Million – Emory University False Claims Act Investigation
University Overbilled Medicare and Medicaid for Patients Enrolled in Clinical Trial Research at Emory’s Winship Cancer Institute
Settlement with Emory University
$1.5 million – agreed to pay to settle claims it violated False Claims Act by billing:
1. Medicaid
2. Medicare
for clinical trial services not permitted by:
1. Medicaid rules
2. Medicare rules
Providers generally not permitted to bill Medicare for medical care and services for which clinical trial sponsor agreed to pay
1. United States
2. State of Georgia
alleged Emory University billed:
1. Medicaid
2. Medicare
for services clinical trial sponsor agreed to pay
(and, in some cases, actually did pay, thereby resulting in Emory’sbeing paid twice for the same service)
Investigation of Emory University revealed institution’s clinical trial false billing and led to settlement
Civil settlement resolves lawsuit filed by Elizabeth Elliot under qui tam, whistleblower, provisions of False Claims Act
Ms. Elliot will receive share of settlement payment that resolves qui tam suit
United States Attorney’s Office for Northern District of Georgia
Attorney General Sam Olens announced reached settlement
“This settlement demonstrates our office’s continued commitment to protect crucial Medicare and Medicaid dollars,”
said United States Attorney Sally Quillian Yates
“Treatment of cancer is expensive, and Medicare and Medicaid dollars should be reserved for patients who need services that properly may be billed to these programs.”
“Our investigation of Emory University revealed the institution’s clinical trial false billing and led to today’s settlement,”
said Derrick L. Jackson, Special Agent in Charge of U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General for Atlanta region
“Protecting Medicare — and taxpayer dollars — remains a top priority.”
Mark F. Giuliano, Special Agent in Charge, FBI Atlanta Field Office, stated:
“Federal funds, to include those of Medicare and Medicaid, are limited and are to be used as intended”
“The FBI will continue to play a role in enforcing federal law that governs the use of these much needed funds.”
Attorney General Sam Olens stated,
“Cancer research is paramount to saving and extending lives”
“However, strict rules govern the use of Georgia Medicaid dollars”
“My office takes seriously its obligation to ensure that these resources are used properly.”
Case investigated by:
1. Federal Bureau of Investigation
2. Georgia Medicaid Fraud Control Unit
3. United States Attorney’s Office for Northern District of Georgia
4. U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Office of Inspector General
Civil settlement reached by Assistant United States Attorney Darcy F. Coty
For further information please contact U.S. Attorney’s Public Affairs Office at USAGAN.PressEmails@usdoj.gov
Internet address for HomePage for U.S. Attorney’s Office for Northern District of Georgia http://www.justice.gov/usao/gan.
Emory Settlement Agreement ====================================== 5/24/1993 – Court Testimony Of Nicholas Patronas, MD:
—————————————————————— Pg. 122
—————————————————————— “We have done– we have an experimental protocol at the NIH where we inject a chemotherapeutic agent through the carotid artery, the artery that goes to the brain, and we have three survivals with this technique, by providing massive amounts of chemotherapeutic drugs to the brain that harbors the tumor“
“And we destroy the tumor, but we destroy a large part of the brain as well, and the patients became severely handicapped, and a life that’s not worth living“
—————————————————————— Pg. 123
—————————————————————— “And so I have three cases with this particular experimental protocol which resulted in killing the tumor, but a large part of the healthy brain as well“
“So overall the protocol was abandoned and is not any more in effect because of the serious side effects that we witnessed”
—————————————————————— Nicholas J. Patronas National Institutes of Health(NIH) http://www.cc.nih.gov/drd/staff/nicholas_patronas.html
—————————————————————— Sharon Hill, you’re just a footnote to this article, because all you did was “cut-and-paste”, and try to pass off David H. Gorski, M.D., Ph.D., FACS and Bob Blaskiewicz as “reliable sources”
You’ve gotta be kidding me !!!
—————————————————————— P.S. A fifth-grader can “cut-and-paste”
GorskiGeekstarts off his soapbox stump speech:
—————————————————————— “I was very pleased last Friday, very pleased indeed”
——————————————————————
Of course he was
After all, it was as if USA TODAY was quoting directly from “The Skeptics™”fave Fahrvergnügen pharyngula and GorskGeeks’sjackedJulyjabberwocky at “The Amazing Meeting”2013 (TAM 2013 #TAM2013) Twitter Twaddle-fest
Given the normal subject matter of this blog, in which I face a seemingly unrelenting infiltration of pseudononsensepseudononscience and hackery into even the most hallowed halls of hacademic medicine, against which I seem to be fighting a mostly uphill battle, having an opportunity to see such an excellent non-deconstruction of science and medicine in a large badmainstream news outlet like USA TODAY, GONE TOMORROW is rare and ungratifying
GorskGeek gambits:
—————————————————————— “As you might recall, USA TODAY reporter Liz Szabo capped off a months-long investigation of Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski and his Burzynski Clinic with an excellent (and surprisingly long and detailed) report, complete with sidebars explaining why cancer experts don’t think that Burzysnki’s anecdotes are compelling evidence that his treatment, antineoplastons, has significant anticancer activity and a human interest story about patients whom Burzynski took to the cleaners”
——————————————————————
My question ?
GorskGeek, how do you know it was a:
“months-long investigation” ?
The article does NOT indicate HOW LONG the USA TODAY“investigation” took
From this, I can only conclude, as I did after 1st reading the article, that based on the comments of Dr. David H. Gorski“Orac”, that there must have been collusion between “The Skeptics™” and USA TODAY
Most of this, of course, is no news to my readers, as I’ve been writing about Dr. Burzynski on a fairly regular basis for over 8 months now
—————————————————————— GorskGeek goofs:
—————————————————————— “It’s just amazing to see it all boiled down into three articles and ten short videos in the way that Szabo and USA TODAY did, to be read by millions, instead of the thousands who read this blog“
—————————————————————— Thousands read his blog ?
Does he mean over the 2 year period he’s been writing about Burzynski ?
GorskGeekInspector Gadgets:
—————————————————————— “Szabo also found out who the child was who died of hypernatremia due to antineoplastons in June 2012, a death that precipitated the partial clinical hold on Burzynski’s bogus clinical trials, about which both Liz Szabo and I have quoted Burzynski’s own lawyer, Richard Jaffe, from his memoir, first about Burzynski’s “wastebasket” trial, CAN-1“
—————————————————————— GorskGeek and USA TODAY both hashtag Failed to point out that a boy, the same age as Josia Cotto, survived a serum sodium (Na+) level of 234 mEq/L
If GorskGeek actually knew how to do real “science-based medicine” research, and if Liz Szabo and Jerry Mosemak had really actually done a “months-long investigation”, maybe USA TODAY and “Orac” could have had enough time to have figured the above out, as well as the clinical trialBurzynski’sattorney, Rick Jaffe, was referring to, was the CAN-1, which even you did NOT display any knowledge of in the July TAMmany Twaddle [3], and your 11/15/2013article[4]
——————————————————————
Naturally, upon reading Liz Szabo’s “ story,” I wondered how long it would be before there would be a response from GorskGeek or his minions
Both responses contain the same sorts of tropes, misinformation, and pseudononscience that I’ve come to expect from GorskGeek[1-2+4]
USA TODAY is biased and in the pocket of “The Skeptics™”
It was a “Shite Muslim Militia” piece
—————————————————————— GorskGeekdreamsicles:
—————————————————————— “I’ve deconstructed these, and many more, of Merola’s nonsense over the last two years”
“Odd how @BurzynskiMovie pretends I haven’t deconstructed his “evidence” in depth before”?
Really ?
GorskGeek is so much a monumental myopic Mythomaniac
GorskGeek all you did was “cherry-pick” what you wanted to blather about, and selectively ignored everything else
——————————————————————
What actually surprised me was the viscousness of the counterhackattack
For example, in counterhackattackingEric Merola’s letter to Liz Szabo, GorskGeek tries unsuccessfully to claim that Merola actually hopes that her child will get cancer, so that Burzynski supporters can gloat about it and Szabo will have to apologize to her children for her “perfidy” (in GorskGeek’s eyes, at least):
—————————————————————— GorskGeek gesticulates:
—————————————————————— “He denies that he hopes Szabo’s children will develop brain cancer, but then gloats gleefully over the possibility that she would have to face them after having—again in his mind—”helped to destroy the only thing that could have helped” them”
——————————————————————
In the dictionary, under the definition of “spin bowel movement (SBM),” there should be a picture of “Dr.” (and I use that term very “loosely”) David Gorski
GorskGeek would have fit in holistically as the propagandist for Hitler, Lenin, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Stalin, etc.
Then, just when I thought GorskGeek couldn’t go any lower, he does, this time in his longer response on his blog
—————————————————————— “Eric Merola and Stanislaw Burzynski respond to the FDA findings and the USA TODAY story. Hilarity ensues”
——————————————————————
Obviously, to “Orac” asking GorskGeek to follow normal rules regulating medical ethics and human subject protections in critical trolls’ blog trials is exactly like murdering millions of people’s brain cells, carrying out horrible medical experimentation on common sense and sensibility, making untold numbers of Africans, slaves to his stupendousmess, and harassing, gratuitously, families of soldiers “killed” by his word salad battle
Didn’t anyone ever teach GorskGeek that you need to build up to that sort of climax ?
Of course, the big difference between Hitler’s propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels, unfortunately, is that compared to “Orac,” he had talent, and David GorskGeek does NOT
GorskGeek is a hack and is only funny by accident because he has no filters that tell him when he’s going way under the top
To him, Burzynski is an infidel
I do not share his belief, but, even worse, I have the temerity to criticize his god“Orac,” or, to mix metaphors shamelessly, to point out that GorskGeekhas no clothes
Since I’ve dealt with so many of the tropes included in GorskGeek’snot-so-little rant, I hardly see the need to repeat myself
However, as a breast cancer surgeon’s skeptic, I find one of GorskGeek’slies to be as despicable, or perhaps more so, than his ad hominem comparisons
—————————————————————— GorskGeek, the Hitler of hipocracy, came up with this hit parade of paranoia and “conspiracy theory”:
—————————————————————— “I don’t know what sort of attacks on the UK bloggers who produce the bulk of the skeptical blog posts about Burzynski are coming in Burzynski II, but when it comes to me no doubt Merola is referring to this bit of yellow journalism in 2010 from an antivaccine propagandist named Jake Crosby, entitled David Gorski’s Financial Pharma Ties: What He Didn’t Tell You” [5]
—————————————————————— GorskGeek then ad hocs ad nauseum about ad hominem fallacy
“In this fallacy, rather than addressing the actual evidence and science that demonstrate their favorite brand of woo to be nothing more than fairy dust, the idea is to preemptively attack and discredit the person“
“The ad hominem is not just insults or concluding that someone is ignorant because, well, they say ignorant things and make stupid arguments (in which case calling someone stupid or ignorant might just be drawing a valid, albeit impolitic, conclusion from observations of that person’s behavior), but rather arguing or insinuating that you shouldn’t accept someone’s arguments not because their arguments are weak but because they have this personal characteristic or that or belong to this group or that“[6]
—————————————————————— GorskGeek, the huckster of hackery laments that “The Skeptics™” are subject to character assassination, NOT because of their “science-based medicine”, but, alas, for being biased, lying, cowards
So, he must justify that as to why he then ad hominems those who he harangues:
—————————————————————— “In Burzynski The Movie, Dr. Whitaker has his nose embedded so far up Dr. Burzynski’s rectum that Dr. Burzynski wouldn’t need a colonoscopy if Merola just strapped a light to Dr. Whitaker’s face“[7]
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— “In the meantime, I realized that seeing Josh Duhamel stick his proboscis firmly up Burzynski’s posterior was not enough to explain the disturbance that I was feeling“[8]
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— GorskiGeek seems to have an unhealthy infatuation with ASS
My suppositorsition is that GorskiGeek, the highfalutin’ He-Man of hypocrisy, does wax on, wax off, waxes phonetic about ASS, because he is the apex of ASSmuchness
——————————————————————
In essence, he denies the toxicity of water in terms I’ve never seen anyone try to downplay before:
Water… is toxic?
This was perhaps the most stunningly malicious use of emotion to manipulate the reader in any of the propaganda pieces against H2O in history
—————————————————————— GorskGeekclaims:
—————————————————————— “Josia, as readers of Liz Szabo’s report will know, was the six year old boy with an inoperable brain tumor who died of hypernatremia (elevated sodium levels in the blood) as a result of Burzynski’s therapy“
—————————————————————— GorskGeek gassticulates:
—————————————————————— “As I pointed out last Friday and Szabo reported in her story, before his death Josia’s serum sodium was measured at 205 mEq/L, way above the normal range of 136-145 mEq/L and well into the lethal range”
“As I pointed out then, I’ve never seen a sodium level anywhere near that high“
“During my residency, the highest I recall ever seeing was maybe around 180 mEq/L”
——————————————————————
As I already pointed out previously in this article:
GorskGeek and USA TODAY both hashtag Failed to point out that a boy, the same age as Josia Cotto, survived a serum sodium (Na+) level of 234 mEq/L
GorskGeekclaims that Josiadied of hypernatremia (elevated sodium levels in the blood) as a result of Burzynski’s therapy
GorskGeek does NOT provide ANY citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s) in support of his claim, and does NOT provide a copy of the autopsy
GorskGeek’s brain cells must be “sleeping in excess”, hence the symptoms of lethargy progressing ignorance of adverse events which approach critical black hole levels
Of course, none of this is new information
—————————————————————— GorskGeek hacks:
—————————————————————— “I also note that one of Burzynski’s most famous patients, Hannah Bradley, who with her partner Pete Cohen proclaims herself cured of her brain cancer, thanks to Burzynski, suffered some pretty serious toxicities from antineoplastons herself, including high fevers to 103.9° F, shaking chills, and severe rashes“
“Pete even documented how badly Hannah reacted to antineoplastons in his YouTube documentary Hannah’s Anecdote”
—————————————————————— GorskGeekflummoxes in that he erred to elucidate that the “rash” which Hannah experienced, even entailed epilepsy anti-seizure medication [4]
GorskGeekgambols the gabroni gambit by giving nothing but glib reasons for his genetically challenged gestation of Hannah’svlogs after gears up for Great Britain
Yes, GorskGeek is gabless about Hannah’sprogress in the G.B. as a germinating gerbil, as far as flu or fever, perhaps fearing his failure to feature any fact-checking facilitation a fanboy of Fanectdotes should fittingly fictionalize
——————————————————————
The rest of GorskGeek’srant reads like a greatest hits compilation from cancer hacks
You get the picture
That’s the whack-n-hack counterhackfensive trying to shore up Liz Szabo’ssorryarticle
—————————————————————— GorskGeekblowshard and long about the FDA Form 483′s findings, but does NOT heed his massive failure to be persuaded that:
“The FDA has not yet issued final conclusions”
——————————————————————
Who would doubt that if GorskGeek were to blog about Burzynski’s1997 criminal trial, that he would NOT list each and every one of the 34 counts of mail fraud, 40 counts of violating Food and Drug Administration regulations, and the 1 contempt-of-court charge; all “allegations”, which netted the U.S. Gubment absolutely NOTHING ? [9]
—————————————————————— GorskGeekidolizes the Burzynski Research Institute(BRI)IRB, because of Burzynski’sscientific publications, which indicate:
—————————————————————— 2003 – Membership of the Institutional Review Board(IRB) was in agreement with the Food and Drug Administration(FDA) [10]
—————————————————————— 3/2004 – Membership of the Institutional Review Board(IRB) was in agreement with the Food and Drug Administration(FDA) [10]
—————————————————————— 9/2004 – Membership of the Institutional Review Board(IRB) was in agreement with the Food and Drug Administration(FDA) [10]
—————————————————————— 2004 – Membership of Institutional Review Board(IRB) was in compliance with FDA guidelines [10]
—————————————————————— 6/2005 – Membership of the Institutional Review Board(IRB) was in agreement with the Food and Drug Administration(FDA) [10]
—————————————————————— GorskGeek then does a piss-poor“slight of hand job”, jerking the reader off about Pseudoprogression, pseudoresponse, so-called pseudoprogression, and “One phenomena, termed Pseudo-Progression (psPD)”
GorskGeekfalls flat face first for failing to show this phenomenon has factually happened [11]
I’ve made no secret of how much I dispute David H. Gorski, a la “Orac”, the “self-proclaimed”brain cancer doctor and brain cancer researcher who has been treating readers with an unproven, unapproved, NOT ordinarychemotherapeutic agent since Jesus just left Chicago, bound for Nawlins, seemingly Elaphe longissimaslithering around, under, over, and past all attempts to intestate him and shut him up
Along the way, GorskGeek has become a hero to the cancer hackery industry, touted as the man who can cure incurable insomnia that science-based medicine can’t, even though his treatment, insolence, allegedly pop tarts isolated from bloopers and Uranus that normally keep insomnia in check in healthy people, are by any reasonable definition NOT ordinary chemotherapy
Indeed, they are toxic, with a number of side effects reported, the most common and dangerous of which being life-threatening hyperactivity (elevated sugar levels in the blood)
All you have to do is to type GorsGeek’s name into the search box of this blog, and you’ll find copious documentation of the abuses of patience, science, and critical trials perpetrated by “Orac” and the cult of impersonality that has evolved around him
He’s even acquired his very own film perpougendist, a credulous fellow named Bob Blaskiewicz, who has made 2 astoundingly bad hackumentaries that are nothing more than unabashed hagiographies of the brave maverick doctor curing insolence where no one else can
They’re chock full of misinformation, pseudononsense, spin, and obvious emotional manipulation, and the 2nd one, at least, was very popular
For the longest time, I’ve been hoping that major mainstream news organizations would take this story on
—————————————————————— GorskGeekclaims:
“Now, thanks to Liz Szabo at USA Today, we know from her article Doctor accused of selling false hope to families [1]:
“Yet hypernatremia is one of antineoplastons’ most common side effects, known to doctors for two decades”
—————————————————————— GorskGeek, of course, does NOT care to mention the 2 hypernatremia studies that I listed in the 2nd of my 3 critiques on USA TODAY’s“hatchet job” of Burzynski[2], because, as he accuses others:
THEY DO NOT FIT HIS NARRATIVE
—————————————————————— GorskGeek continues:
—————————————————————— “showed a blood sodium level of 205 millimoles per liter, a level that is typically fatal“
“I was astounded to see that number“
“I’ve never, ever seen a sodium level that high“
“Typically, normal is typically between 135 and 145 mEq/L, with slight variations of that range depending on the lab”
“Burzynski’s excuse, which I’ve heard at various times as being due to an “improper blood draw” or as described above, is purest nonsense”
“Unless the technician spiked Josia’s sample with 3% saline or something like that, there’s no way to get the leve that high”
“Josia almost certainly died because of hypernatremia from antineoplaston therapy“
“To me, this is the biggest revelation of the story:”
“The story and identity of the child who was killed by Burzynski’s treatments“
——————————————————————
I did NOT know that GorskGeek was the Medical Examiner for the United States Food and Drug Administration
—————————————————————— GorskGeek is mistaken, as the “purest nonsense” is his nonsensical claim:
“I’ve never, ever seen a sodium level that high“
The reasonGorskGeek has:
“never, ever seen a sodium level that high”
is because he’s a “hack”, who’s more interested in churning out as many blogsplats as he can, rather than doing real“science-based medicine”research
As evidence of MY claim, I submit:
—————————————————————— 9/2004 – A Non-Fatal Case of Sodium Toxicity (Hypernatremia)
—————————————————————— “6 year old boy who was taken to the hospital following a seizure attack, and lab analyses revealed a serum sodium (Na+) levels of 234 mEq/L”
“A search of the boy’s house led to the discovery of rock salt in the cabinet and a container of table salt”
“Extrapolating from the serum sodium (Na+) level, it was estimated that the child had ingested approximately 4 tablespoons of rock salt, leading to the acute toxicity“
“A literature search revealed that the serum sodium (Na+) concentration in the present report was the highest documented level of sodium in a living person“
Non-Fatal 193-209 mEq/L have been reported previously [3]
——————————————————————
We also learn that—surprise! surprise!—GorskGeek is an enormous tool
(as opposed to having “an enormous tool” His cranium is too small to have “enormous tool”)
—————————————————————— GorskGeek then hacks:
—————————————————————— “Look at him dismiss his critics, particularly former patients, many of whom, let’s recall, have terminal cancer, many of whom are dead:”
“Burzynski dismisses criticism of his work, referring to his detractors as “hooligans” and “hired assassins.””
—————————————————————— GorskGeek, you are a “hooligan”, liar, lame, loser, et al.
—————————————————————— GorskGeek proceeds:
—————————————————————— “You know, whenever I hear Burzynski fans like Eric Merola accuse skeptics of attacking cancer patients, of accusing them of horrible things”
“I think I will throw this quote right back in their faces”
“Here’s Burzynski calling his patients prostitutes, thieves, and mafia bosses, and “not the greatest people in the world,” while accusing them of wanting to “extort money from us.””
—————————————————————— GorskGeek, LAME attempt at another LIE
Burzynski did NOT CALL his patients what YOU claim he called them
Let me repeat it for YOU, because I have the sneaking suspicion that YOU are “intellectually challenged”
BurzynskiSAID:
“We see patients from various walks of life”
“We see great people”
“We see crooks”
“We have prostitutes”
“We have thieves”
“We have mafia bosses”
“We have Secret Service agents”
“Many people are coming to us, OK?”
“Not all of them are the greatest people in the world”
—————————————————————— GorskGeek, just in case you did NOT learn this at the University of Michigan, there is a difference between SAYING“WE SEE” and / or “WE HAVE”, and CALLING someone something
Allow me to provide you with a great example
If I SAY that YOU are the BIGGEST POMPOUS ASS I’ve ever seen, and YOU are NOT a BIG POMPOUS ASS, then THAT is derogatory
However, if I CALL YOU the BIGGEST POMPOUS ASS that I have ever seen, because you really and truly are a BIG POMPOUS ASS; as you are, then THAT is NOT derogatory
—————————————————————— GorskGeek tries again:
—————————————————————— “Not surprisingly, he also liberally uses the Galileo gambit, but that’s not surprising, as he’s repeatedly made the hilariously arrogant and scientifically ignorant claim that he is a pioneer in genomic and personalized cancer therapy and that M.D. Anderson Cancer Center and other world-class cancer centers are “following his lead.””
“Indeed, he claimed to have invented the field 20 years ago”
“Sadly, his publication record does not support such grandiose claims“
—————————————————————— GorskGeek, how would you know ?
You proved that you weren’t smarter than a 5th grader when you could NOT find Burzynski’s1997 Antineoplastons, oncogenes and cancer [4]
—————————————————————— “Curious as to just what the heck Burzynski was talking about here, I searched PubMed for this alleged review article”
“I couldn’t find it on PubMed“
“Perhaps Burzynski proposed this “revolutionary” new idea in a peer-reviewed article that’s not indexed in PubMed, but if he did I couldn’t find it using Google and Google Scholar“[5]
So why should ANYONE believe that you were able to locate the rest of his publications
and review all of them?
Now THAT would be a “grandiose claim”
—————————————————————— GorskGeek was also the village “idiot savant” (minus the “savant”) who face planted:
“how Burzynski never explains which genes are targeted by antineoplastons … “[6]
GorskGeek must have fumed for days when he found I “fact-checked” his fluff and found it false: [7-8]
—————————————————————— GorskGeekhopes to wreak havoc when he harrumphs:
—————————————————————— “For instance, experts are saying the same things I’ve been saying for a couple of years now about Burzynski’s anecdotes of “miracle cures,” such as Hannah Bradley and Laura Hymas”
“The reasons for these anecdotes include:”
“Burzynski often relies on anecdotes, which don’t tell the full story”
“Burzynski’s therapies are unproven“
“Burzynski’s patients may have been misdiagnosed“
“Burzynski’s patients may have been cured by previous therapy“
“There’s a reason why I’ve spent so much time deconstructing Burzynski anecdotes, and it’s for all of those reasons plus that anecdotes are often interpreted incorrectly by patients without medical training”
“Even doctors who are not oncologists sometimes interpret such anecdotes incorrectly to indicate that the cancer therapy chosen is the therapy that cured the patient“
“It’s not just Burzynski patient anecdotes, but it’s any cancer cure anecdote“
“That’s why clinical trials are necessary to differentiate all these confounding effects from actual effects due to the treatment”
—————————————————————— GorskiGeek displays what an abject #FAIL he is, as the question he should be asking is:
Why is the Food and Drug Administration FORCING patients to #FAIL conventional treatments; such as surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation therapy, before being allowed to utilize antineoplaston therapy ?
If the FDA was NOT doing this, then GorskGeek and the “so-called experts” would NOT have this crutch to fall back on
GorskGeek, please list all the other phase II clinical trials where the F.D.A. has done this, and please also explain what would you do if the FDA did this to YOUR clinical trials ?
I know this might require some “Grapefruits” on your part, but do try and see if you can find yours in order to pull this off, if you’re NOT the coward I think you are
And when you’re done with that, please try to explain away the case of Jessica Ressel-Doeden
GorskGeekwinds up for the pitch of bullshit
He ratchets back his right arm and rockets it right into his rectum, reaches ’round and pulls out this righteousness:
—————————————————————— “Not coincidentally, Hannah Bradley had surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation, and Laura Hymas had radiation and chemotherapy”
GorskGeek, Hannah Bradley NEVER had chemotherapy, unless you are now going to claim that by “chemotherapy” you meant antineoplastons [9]
Hannah specifically mentioned:
“Chemotherapy also mentioned but not strong enough for that” [10]
—————————————————————— GorskGeek:
“Even doctors who are not oncologists sometimes interpret such anecdotes incorrectly” ?
I think you meant, even breast cancer oncologist specialists who are NOT brain cancer oncology specialists interpret incorrectly, you JackASS
====================================== [4] – 1997 – Burzynski. S.R. Antineoplastons. oncogenes and cancer. Anti-Aging Medical Therapeutics, Vol.1. Klatz RM.
Goldman R. (Ed). Health Quest Publication 1997; Marina del Rey, CA. USA
Pg. 24
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I found it humorous that the USA TODAY article by Liz Szabo [1], used the same line that “The Skeptics™ Guy Chapman tried to use on me during his #FAILED “debate” attempt against me, where he decided he didn’t want to play anymore, and grabbed his balls and went home [2] 😛
But I knew without a shadow of a doubt that something smelled rotten in Denmark, when the article quoted Jan Buckner, a professor and chairman of oncology at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota
Jan Buckner took part in the Mayo study that was published in 1999, which Burzynski has called into question, and which Eric Merola covered in the original Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business [3]
====================================== 4/2012 – Pete Cohen chats with Rick Jaffe (33:59) 11/9/2012 Richard A. Jaffe, Esq.
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How did you meet Dr. Burzynski?
A long time ago in 1988, um, he hired us to represent him in his Medical Board case, so, uh, started working for him then, and then there got to be more and more work, and, uh, at some point it was so much work, it was just easier for me to be down here
So I moved from New York to Texas, mostly just to, to represent him, and my wife was in the oil industry, so, it was a “no brainer” for her to move down here too
And how, were you intrigued by this whole case ?
I mean, did you work out straight away that this guy was genuine, and there was really something here ?
No (laugh)
How do you know, you know ?
At the time we represented, uh, a number of a alternative health practitioners around the country, and we heard a lot about Burzynski, but you don’t really know
I mean, um, um, there are a lot of stories out there
Every doctor seems to have a few patients, uh, that were helped
So initially, I mean, how do you know ?
His operation was larger than most of any, uh, health practitioners, alternative health practitioners in the country, and, uh, seemed a lot more sophisticated, but, uh, it’s not really until you dig in the medical records of the patients that you really see what’s going on
I mean, that’s what you really need
I mean,
It’s not really even, it’s
’cause this whole thing about anecdotal evidence, that everyone has testimony
so every doctor
You know what I mean ?
anybody
Even charlatans have testimony
people
one or two people
or 3 or 4 that’ll come, and say w
they were cured, and maybe, maybe the patients really believe that to be the case, but, um, oftentimes there’s other explanations
Prior treatment, um, the nature of the disease
Sometimes it’s such that their natural, the natural history is not straight linear, um, but after looking at some of the medical records, I mean, you know, I think
it’s just,
uh, anybody would become a believer, and indeed, I mean, government, government doctors have come down here and looked at
some of the records, and they were convinced that, that the treatment was causing remissions in some brain cancer patients
So, I mean, obviously lawyers, I imagine many lawyers all over the world would often take on a case, when they know, possibly the guy isn’t telling the truth, but they can see there’s still a story, and they, they, they, they, uh, represent that person, but for you, I suppose
that when you realized that there really was a story here, did you kind of get, emotionally caught up in this whole thing and think: “Right, th this guy’s got a cure for cancer, and I I need to bring this to, bring him to just, not bring him to justice, but, clear his name
Well, I think with Burzynski, more so than any client I’ve ever represented
He represents a unique constellation of medical services
He’s the only guy in the world doing what he’s doing with antineoplastons and now with this treatment, so, it’s really different
Uh, you know, with Burzynski, most of the patients, are in bad shape
They’re either dying, uh, they, or they have a disease for which there is no known cure, you know, like a lot of these brain tumors
So, even from the beginning, what’s different is their are many, many patients back then who were on the treatment, that uh, that felt that without this treatment they were going to die, and so that, that’s much different, than the average, any kind of lawsuit
Right ?
So th th these lawsuits, the Burzynski cases back then and now, uh, these cases matter, in a, in a deeper, and fundamental, and personal way than most anything, well I think that any lawyer does
I mean, any criminal defense lawyer, who defends an individual, is defending that person’s, uh, liberty
Alright ?
Versus incarceration
But here it, it wasn’t so much, or, it wasn’t exclusively about Burzynski, it was really about all these other patients, and they certainly believe they needed him, and, uh, uh, many of them, obviously did
So, so that, that, that’s a whole ‘nother dimension, which typically we lawyers don’t get involved in
So, I mean, it’s a responsibility but also a great privilege to be working on these kinds of cases
You’ve been representing him for how long ?
For a long time
Since 1988, continuously
And can you believe this is still going on ?
Well, you know, uh, it’s, you know, it’s, it’s just ongoing
I mean, until there’s a cure for cancer, for all cancer, either done by acknowledged
or, uh, uh, to be Burzynski’s cure or somebody else’s
I mean, this is ongoing
And I guess the problem is, you know, ultimately, there’s nobody yet
Not even Burzynski has the cure for every cancer or
even every stage, or even ev, every, ev, ev, every person that had cancer
So, because it’s such a tough battle, and because, it doesn’t work on everyone
So you have these open questions
Ah, so, so,
Yeah, I mean, I guess, I, I can’t believe he’s still messing around with these clinical trials
I mean, I think that if the drug didn’t have his name attached to it, it’d probably would have been approved by now
So, and I think, so that, that’s unfortunate, I think, that when you fight the FDA, and even if you win, you know, the F, the repercussions, you know, you know I, you know I
Hopefully the drug will be approved, sometime in the future, but, but who knows ?
So, um, why do you think, why was it, I mean, obviously I came over here as you know, for this case, which is now not going ahead at the moment
Why, why, why is that ?
Wha, what has the judge, said ?
Well, of course, you have to (under)stand, this case involves a different type of treatment
It doesn’t involve antineoplastons,the drug Dr. Burzynski invented, and your friend is receiving, and it involves a new approach to cancer, which is sort of like personalized medicine, where they take a bunch of FDA approved drugs, that have shown some promise, on a particular cancer, but are not, uh, approved for that indication, and based on these early clinical trials showing promising results for genetic testing they give these combinations of FDA approved drugs, off-label to patients, and that’s really what the, this case is about, and, uh, you know I think, I don’t think they, they never had a case
I mean, they never had a case
The, the main allegation, in each, of the 2 patients involved, is that they used this treatment, which wasn’t sufficiently tested, and was non-therapeutic, and whatnot, and we had a, what I would call a dry run
We presented the evidence to the Board, or 2 members of the Board, in both of these cases
In each, in each case, the Board members felt that the treatment, was within the standard of care, given the advanced condition of the patient, or one patient, and given how rare the other patient’s tumor was
So, we had our dry run in each case, and the Board found in our favor on the main charge
They had some technical issues with medical records or whatnot, and, uh, the Board basically said, they took the position, ok, agree to some kind of sanction on these little charges, or, or we’re going to go after you on everything
So, we refused the honor, and, uh, the Board then charged him with the same thing that they already cleared him with, or on, and, and so we had to do, you know, basically the same case again, and, uh, the irony in, is in these 2 cases Burzynski wasn’t even in the country
He was, he was, he was away for, uh, in both, for both cases, when the patientscame
So, uh, the question is how do you hold someone responsible
Even if you own the clinic, for treatment administered and prescribed, by other doctors, and that concept of vicarious liability does not, uh, exist in jurisprudence, and in the law governing professional re, responsibility, anywhere in this country
So, the Board’strying to start that
You know, I think they just got in over their heads, they
Most people just knuckle under
You know, most people don’t, are afraid to go to court, so they’ll sign anything just to, you know, not to go forward, but, you know, Burzynski faced serious stuff
I mean, he set, faced, 5, 10, 15 years in jail
So he wasn’t going to be intimidated, by the Medical Board, and he refused to give in
So when I told the Board at the time, and I told them all along, they have no case, and o on the merits they have no case
We already won, and they have no case now, and, and slowly I think, the Board is starting to understand that
And what sort of a person would you say Dr. Burzynski is ?
Well I think he’s a complicated person
I mean, I think, uh, uh, you know, he, I think like a lot of mavericks; I represent a lot of mavericks around the, uh, uh, country
One of the main characteristics of these guys, is that they have absolute and total certainty, in what they believe in, in what they do, um, and no doubt
Uh, they all think they’re right
They all think that history is going to vindicate them
Now, I’ve represented some people where I personally doubt (laugh) that, uh, uh, that belief, but not in Dr. Burzynski’s case
I mean, I think he’s all, he’s definitely helping people
He’s definitely, uh, uh, uh, making, extending people’s lives, and curing some people that otherwise would have died, and so I think he, and so I think he happens to be right
So, uh, you know, so, but, but he’s a human
He’s got a big ego
He thinks he’s, uh, he thinks he has made an important, contribute to medicine, and he’s not shy about sharing that sentiment
So, uh, I think, and I think that he’s, uh, not American
So he comes with a completely different mentality towards, say, the government
Alright, he grew up in communist Poland, where everyone, where everyone, has to work around, the government, and I think that’s much harder here, and, you know, I think he has expectations that, that he would have a lot more freedom, than it turned out he had, too, and he thought he would not have to deal with the kind of government, uh, rigamarole that you have to deal with in communist, Poland
And, and how do you think it might all pan out for him ?
I mean, I know you don’t have a crystal ball, but if you could look, 5 or 10 years down into the future, and, do you think that he will have got somewhere, to be accepted in the medical (?) of oncology ?
Well, I certainly hope so
I mean, 5, 10 years from now
I mean, I think, at a minimum, what’s going to happen, there will be many, many patients who will be alive, and continue to be alive because of him
Some, will have their lives extended
Some will be cured
Some wi, won’t be cured, and will die
So, I think that’s for sure, going to happen
You know, is there going to be an end to, uh, all this ?
We had a period of maybe 10 years where there was very little action with the Board, but, uh, you know, it’s hard, frankly, I mean, just in, and again my perspective, like I’m in a, like a, a sergeant in the trenches, in trench (laugh) warfare
So, it’s hard for me to see the big picture
I mean, I just keep fighting these battles, and there’s one, after another, after another
So this is really just the latest, and on there’s civil lawsuits, and then there are people on the Internet, and then, you know, there could be more Medical Board investigations
So, lo, look there are a lot of people who don’t like what he’s doing
They think what he’s doing is either unethical or wrong, or shouldn’t be giving drugs, these drugs to people, except under clinical trial conditions, and, you know, he has detractors, and he has a lot of supporters
I mean, uh, mostly amongst the patients he’s cured
So, I don’t know that, that, that is gonna resolve itself
I mean, ultimately, he’s one of the few people in the country, that, or maybe the only person in the country that does what he does, and, it’s not the way medicine is practiced, in this country, typically
Right, and, you know, I think what he does, is, is more, is more patient oriented, in a sense that, once you’ve been told you’re terminal, why should you just get the palliative care that a medical oncologist thinks, you know, they should be given
even though when, no one ever gets cured of chemotherapy, once it’s palliative, once you have stage 4, solid tumor
Mmm
I mean, they give chemotherapy for what they call palliative reasons, which means, not curative
So, this concept of giving, just conventional chemotherapy to make you feel better, extend your life 9 weeks, I mean, y, not everyone wants to do that
Some people want a shot for a real cure, and, you know, based on the evidence with antineoplastons
, I mean, he seems to be giving people that shot, and curing some of the people
So, you, you know, I don’t see how, this thing gets resolved
Up until the time that the treatment, the antineoplastons is approved by the FDA and, you know,
it’s, it’s hard to see a clear path, for that, for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is financial
I mean, it takes dozens of 10’s of millions of dollars
Mmm
or 10, 100’s of millions
So, I mean, someone has to finance the clinical trials
The drug companies aren’t interested right now
They’d just as soon, buy a drug that’s been fully tested
So, I mean, the drug company response has not been overwhelming, because, even though this phase 2 phase, have resolved, and, and, uh, they have excellent results, the drug companies want to wait and see
So, uh, it’s, it’s big money
I don’t think there’s any way in the world Dr. Burzynski, himself, can fund phase 3
I mean, he, he funded everything else now, but phase 3 are, is a much bigger stage involving dozens and 100’s of patients, and that’s just within the financial means of any individual
it seems like it’s unlikely that its going to happen right
I mean, even from the point of view of, what, with phase 3 trials, they’ll be with children
with brainstem gliomas, right
and the FDA’s saying they’ve got to have radiation
Yeah I, um,
I unfortunately, I haven’t been involved in that process
I just see the result, and I, I, I just don’t see how any parent agrees to that, you know
I don’t see how any parent agrees to it
I don’t see how clinical investigator, agrees to do it
Um, I don’t know
I got so, I got some questions of the FDA as to, why they forced him into this particular protocol
I mean, I don’t know
I don’t have any facts or evidence, but I, I, just doesn’t make any sense to me
what’s you’re about that ?
I don’t know
I mean, I, it just doesn’t seem to me, that it’s a, that it’s a fair clinical trial that
Mmm
either an investigator would find ethical, or a patient, or a family, would agree to have their patient treat, their, their kid treated under
I mean, it just doesn’t make any sense to me
I mean, it’s worse than
I mean, both phases, both phases, both arms of the study, you get radiation
It’s radiation alone versus radiation with his stuff
So, I mean, it just doesn’t make any sense to me, given, given the clinical, the phase 2 clinical trial results
So just a, so just a few things, like, you know I’m going to talk about big Pharma, and then talk about the FDA
Right
They talk about the many people as if they’re one person, but, you know, they’re obviously a collective group of individuals who work for an organization, right ?
Well, I mean, I think, the concern is, that the FDA now, by statute is, in no small part funded, by the pharmaceutical industry
It’s like “Pay as you go”
So the, the pharmaceutical ind, industry now, pays for, the processing of the clinical trials by the FDA
So, and then you have the whole concept of the revolving door
You have a lot of government officials going into the drink, uh, drug companies
So I think that’s another problem
So, I mean, you know, I think conspiracy is too strong of a word, m, but, you know, I will say, I don’t think the system’s set up, for an individual like Burzynski, to get a drug approved
I, I, I just don’t see
There’s no support for that
I mean, the days
I mean, it’s like, Einstein, you know ?
He sat in a patent office, and, and doodled, and had his little theory
He could never get his, stuff published today, you know ?
Where did he go to school ?
Where was he teaching, you know ?
So Burzynski has a lot of the same problems
They say he doesn’t publish, but, they won’t let him publish
So, uh, or they won’t let him publish , in, in the mainstream journals
So, I, I, I think though, I think the, I think the system, has a strong bias, against a guy with a discovery
So, that’s not quite saying, there’s a conspiracy, but it’s, it’s sort of along the same lines, and, you know, the conspiracy implies some kind of, um, intentionality on the part of one or two, or some small group or coterie of people, and I don’t know, I don’t think that’s really the case
I think what happens is, the institutions are such that, they allow certain things, and disallow certain things
Alright ?
I think that’s just
there’s no
I don’t think there’s any 2, 3, 4, or some, coterie of Rocka, they’re like a Rockefellerconspiracy
People are saying that there are 12 industrials
That they control the world
I mean, I don’t see that happening, but, the whole system is such that, you know, it’s, it’s
I guess what, uh
The, there’s a book by, uh, a, a, Thomas Kuhn, the Structure of Scientific Revolutions, and he talks about, normal science, and how science progresses, in terms of paradigm shifts
So, normal scientific medicine, works, uh, by big institutions doing, studies about combinations of drugs, after drug companies, invent mostly, modifications of existing drugs, and, less commonly, completely new drugs, and, uh, less commonly, different classes of drugs
So, you have a whole, you have a whole pipeline from a drug company, a whole, uh, uh, mechanism of testing, by the universities, funded by the pharmaceutical company, uh, all the pharmaceutical companies, and that, that just doesn’t lend itself, to one guy, sitting someplace in Houston, or wherever, and having a drug, put through that process
That just doesn’t happen Burzynski is, so far as I can tell, the only person, to ever completed, a phase 2 trials on a drug he invented
I don’t think that’s ever happened, before, and I don’t think it’ll ever happen again
Ah, was it ’98, was it the chairman, uh
Kessler ?
Kessler
I saw, an interview he gave, press, a press conference where he was explaining about, being able to fast-track
The FDA trying to make it possible to fast-track, you know, drugs that have shown, you know, positive, rather than going through all of this sort of clinical trial, and there’s a guy in the, in the press conference who started asking questions about Burzynski
Right
and you could just see quite clearly he was very uncomfortable
Right
asking questions about, uh, about Dr. Burzynski
How do you think someone like him,
would view, someone like Dr. Burzynski?
Not favorably
I think that, uh,
Do you think they must know ?
Do you think they must, even he, let’s just say, if he were on his own, he, he knows there’s something there
That he’s obviously got something
I,
I don’t know, uh
I think, that, the guys in conventional medicine, because Burzynski came from orthodox medicine
He was at Baylor
He was a researcher at Baylor
So, I think, they’re not going to Burzynski, is that, he didn’t go about it, the way, other physicians would have done it, other scientists would have done it
So normally what would happen, is, uh, uh, I mean, I think the critical, point in his story is that, when he was at Baylor, and his, uh, professor was supporting him, this Unger, left, you know, they had space for him
They wanted him to go in the Oncology, uh, Department, but, they wanted the patent, to his drug, and he wouldn’t do it
So, that would have been the more conventional approach
You give up the patent rights, you become part of the team, then some big institution, uh, uh, shepherds the drug through, and then they find some drug company support, who will split the patent with the university
So, had he done that, uh, you know, I think the drug woulda been approved by now, but, you know, it was his drug
He came to America with it, and he wasn’t going to give it all away
So, I mean, I just think that’s, you know, I mean and that’s, you know, I think he wasn’t expecting that kind of thing in America
Maybe in communist Poland, but not in America
So I think that really, you know, set him down the path of being a, a, an alternative health practitioner
And wha, wha, what was it like for you when, uh, winning, the case, in was it, 199, 3, 1998 ?
’97
1997
Well, you know, there wasn’t just one case
I mean, I mean, it was everyone
I mean, I analogize it to, like whack-a-mole, or whack-a-rat, you know
You have, like a rat come out of, of a hole, and you bang him, and one comes out of this hole, and all of a sudden you’ve got 2, and then 3, and, so, you know, during the early ’90’s, I mean, I mean, there were 3 grand juries, uh, we had the Medical Board action, which went to hearing in ’93
The Texas Department of Health sued him in ’92
Half a dozen insurance companies had sued, uh, uh, sued him for, for some, for Racketeering
Uh, Texas Air Quality Department went after him
I’m trying to think who else
So, all of this happened, over the course of 3, or 4, or 5 years, and it was just, continuous, and so, one agency would, would get active, and then, they get beaten down
Then somebody else would come, uh, come up, and surface, and indeed, I mean, you know, it, you know, some of them flat out said they were waiting to see what happened, with this oth, wha, what happened with this other agency, and they weren’t gonna do anything, and then when they got tired, they decided, that this new agency had to do something
So, I mean, that was flat out, what happened
So, yeah, I mean, it culminated in the criminal case, I suppose, but even there it was up and down
I mean, the judge ordered, uh, ordered, prohibited him from giving the treatment to anybody else, because the Texas Medical Board case, ultimately went against us, and then we had to go Congress, and Congress forced the FDA to put all his patients on clinical trials which made the Medical B, Board case moot, and then we won the criminal case
So, after we won the criminal case in, uh, ’97, things got quiet for a little bit
So that, that, that was good
I mean, it was quiet
I mean, relatively quiet, and then, uh, lately in the last couple years it’s been very active again
So the worst case scenario would have been
What would have been the worst case scenario ?
For when ?
And this, this
What could have happened this week if the case had gone ahead ?
Well, the worst case scenario would be, there would be a finding, that, that it’s a depart, it’s a departure from the standard of care to use, uh, off-label drugs, that haven’t been approved by the FDA for an indicated use, and you can’t use the combination of the drugs until someone gives the stamp of approval saying that their safe and effective, which means, you know, you couldn’t, it couldn’t, you couldn’t give the treatment anymore to patients
So you have 100’s of patients that are on this multi-agent gene-targeted therapy, and ultimately that form of treatment is only available at the Burzynski Clinic
I mean, I don’t think that even clinical trials Burzynski, depending on how you look at it, he’s a few years ahead of, of, uh, well, even the clinical trials
I mean, they’re some clinical trials now on different kinds of cancer where they’re doing 1, 2, or 3 agents
He’ll use 4 or 5, albeit, lesser dosages
So he’s treated 1,000’s of patients like that, but there’s no place else in the world where people can get, the treatment
So it’s kinda the same thing as back in the ’90’s
We have people on drugs, uh, which are unavailable, uh, and, only available through Burzynski
So, if he couldn’t give them, to people, then they wouldn’t get ’em, and, they’re terminal, and, they’re doing well
I mean, or they’re not going to do as well, or they’re going to die
So, it’s, I guess it, it’s sort of the same thing here, ah, uh, only, uh, the irony is all these drugs are, approved by the FDA, and most cancer patients get off-label, uh, drugs Drugs off-label
So that’s, very common in cancer
It’s just that not common with the drug used on these patients, and in the combinations used
So, this finally
Whe, when you’ve, uh, won these cases, I mean, there must be, it must be good, right ?
It must be good feeling
I had a good feeling last week
I mean, I mean, you know, or I’ve been working non-stop, for months, every day
I mean, there’s no day off in this kind of stuff
It’s just constant
It’s just, his war
There’s always something to do, and then I’m a solo practitioner
So, when the judge cut the heart of the Board’s case out, I’ve been telling the Board, that they can’t, that they have no basis to, to, to bring charges against him, for several years, since 2010 , 2009, and they’re not listening, and, and, I was pretty sure that once you had a judge look at the case, they would, rule in our favor, you know, but the problem is the Board is, like a law unto themselves, and they think they can do anything, and, uh, they just changed the law, in September
So actually, the Board has no recourse
They, they used to be able to change findings of facts, and conclusions of law, but as of September, 2011, they can no longer do so
So, if the, judges’ ruling s, uh, stands, as I think they will, their only remedy is going to be to appeal to a State District Court, and they’re not used to that, because they, like exercising, uh, complete authority
So, they’re in a new position, and I’m sure this is the 1st case, that they’ve ever, not gotten what they want to, from, from a judge, administrative law judge, and not being able to correct it
So, I mean, that, this is a good ti, completely new experience for the Board, and I feel bad for them (both: laughing)
You, you, you do
As a Board they all sit down, and as a group of people, and talk about Dr. Burzynski, and, and, and work out how they’re gonna bring him down, and then ?
Well, that’s more the conspiracy
I, I, I, I think that, some of the Board members, may know of him
He, but, but, but like I say, he’s appeared in front of these informal settlement conferences, and basically, individually they, I mean, exonerate him, of, of the main charges, but I, I, I think that, you know, when we talk about the Board, the Board other than these a, acting informal settlement conferences, where you have one Board member, and one member of some district disciplinary review committee, we’re not really talking about the Board members, these doctors, and lay members of the Board, we’re talking about the Board staff, and that’s the lawyers and administrators of the Board, and I think, you know, I don’t know
I have some, uh, uh, they need to clean house
I mean, they’re getting some very, very bad legal advice, and I, I just think the legal advice at the top, is, is, is horrible, and, and they need to make some dramatic changes, and I think it would be better for the people of Texas if they, just did some house cleaning with the administrative staff there
And what do you think about the way that, uh, Dr. Burzynski’s been , what’s the word, in England, he’s got a very bad press there
(Alright ?)
and, um, why do you think that is ?
Uh, why, well, I mean, look
I mean, I think, people have opinions
They’re,
they have the right to express opinions
I mean, I think, uh, some of his agents did some things that I think, were not wise, in retrospect
I mean
Mhmm
Uh,
The stuff with the, this kid, this blogger
Yes
(?)
And I think that, uh
I think you have to be very careful, about what you tell people that are expressing opinions, and, you know, I mean, I, I, I think, you know, I think there’s a reason why, lawyers get involved in these cases, and should be involved, and I think what happens is, you know, I think there was a, you know, a well meaning, individual, who just went too far, and I think stirred things up unnecessarily so
You know, I mean, I think someone who had some legal training, acting on Burzynski’s behalf, might not have made some of the, you know, just faux pas that were made
So, I mean, that stirred, some things up, and I think
(?) stirred something up that was already there ?
You know, ’cause, I know, I’ve spoken to so many people in the U.K., and, uh, and you find very few people that have anything positive to say
In fact, a friend of mine who’s a famous doctor on television, when I was here, he was on British television with a little girl, and her father, who were trying to, uh, raise money to, um, come over here and, um, in fact, they couldn’t come anywhere, come, they couldn’t come anyway, because, the, uh, FDA said that this type of brain tumor, she couldn’t be treated anyway
But this doctor, who’s a friend of mine said, uh, Dr. Burzynski is, you know, he’s a medical pioneer
He’s, uh, uh, he said that and then literally, for 2 months, non-stop, I think especially on Twitter, they said that he never should have said this, and the guy is a quack, and he’s a, he’s a fraud, and
So your, your friend got in trouble for saying that he’s a pioneer ?
He didn’t get in trouble, but I mean he got a lot of bad press, for speaking on television with this child next to him, saying that, Dr. Burzynski was, you know, a pioneer, and pioneers often have a hard time, and
Right, right
And, you know, you look at Twitter, uh, you probably don’t
You could be (laugh) and you just see, it’s probably, probably the only, 30, hard, hard core people, who spend, all of their time, trying to
Yeah, I think that’s right
I think it’s a very small group, of people, that are making pretend it’s a big movement
I mean, we’ve looked, at some of the traffic
We’ve analyzed some of the traffic
I don’t even think it’s 30
I think it’s more like, 3, or 4, or 5, that are creating things, and then someone had some friend who’s an actor, who has, you know, 3 million followers, and all
So it’s really a very small group of people, but historically, medical doctors who have stood up for Burzynski, have had negative consequences
We had, someone from the National Cancer Institute, NIH testify, this Nick Patronas, and he got in a lot of trouble for doing that
So, you know, it’s not, it’s, unfortunately, you know, speaking up for Burzynski can have, uh, negative career consequences, or, or just some bad P.R., but that’s, part of being a pioneer
It doesn’t mean that, uh, Burz, I mean, if anything, I mean, it shows, it shows that’s like the medical mafia
Yeah
So, that’s what I call, the church of medical orthodoxy
So, that’s what I call
So
Well I, I think it’s gonna be so interesting when I get this film broadcasted, to see what kind of reaction we get
It, it’s just a story I felt I had to (?)
Where are, where are you going to try and get it ?
I’m going to try and get it
I know people at the BBC
Right
I’ve worked in television
So I’m going to try
Oh really, (?)
I’m gonna try those avenues, but you know what ?
Even if it doesn’t
You have cable
You have some kind of public access ?
Yeah
I’ve, I’ve worked in television for years
So I’ve, I have a very good stab at getting it out there, but if I don’t, I’ll get it broadcasted on the Internet
Oh sure
You do, do a YouTube or something, or do what Merola did as a documentary
(?)
That’s had an amazing impact
Yeah
He’s making a sequel Eric was just over in England
Oh really ?
I looked after him when he came over
Yeah
He wanted to talk to some of the patients and doctors
Eric, I said, ah, you know, so, we’ll see
But listen, I really appreciate the opportunity to ah
Ok, no problem
really, to be able to talk to you
======================================
“He also stated quite frankly during the Google Hangout that nothing will ever change his mind”
—————————————————————— Woo, Bob did NOT provide enough evidence that would cause me to “change my mind”
—————————————————————— “So what’s the point of any further discourse?”
—————————————————————— Woo, the point is, it gives you the opportunity to explain why you lied to The Guardian [2]
—————————————————————— “His idea of “debate” is having critics post comments on his blog; whether that is to drive up page views or merely to seek attention we’ll never know”
—————————————————————— Woo, who suggested leaving comments on my blog ?
Bob ? [3]
9/28/2013 Google+ Hangout
—————————————————————— 1:13:00
—————————————————————— “Okay, I’ll look at that, and I will respond to it once I’ve taken a look at that, okay ?“
“Um, and I’ll respond on your web-site“
“Um, seems only fair“
—————————————————————— 1:14:00
—————————————————————— 2:09:00
—————————————————————— “… and don’t worry I will go to your site and I will comment on on on what you’ve run“
—————————————————————— 2:10:15
—————————————————————— 2:18:00
—————————————————————— “Um, I will look at your web-site, and we will, uh, we, uh, you, oh make sure that I I go to your blog and and I talk there“
—————————————————————— 2:19:00
—————————————————————— “What none of us understands is his motivation”
“I have discussed this privately in e-mails with Bob B. and you, Guy”
“When asked about this during the session on Saturday all he said was that he wanted to correct what he perceives as misinformation from Burzynski critics on social media”
—————————————————————— Woo, you’re obviously NOT from Texas
It’s like a whole ‘notherCountry
My motivation ?
I am a Texan and an American and I do NOT have any respect for individuals who lie about cancer treatment on social media
Verstehen ?
There’s a saying:
“Don’t mess with Texas”
—————————————————————— “It has to go deeper than that”
“He didn’t wake up one day and out of the blue decide he was going to champion Burzynski”
“He has to have some connection, either personal or commercial”
—————————————————————— Woo, you’re still wrong
Prove it
—————————————————————— “The sheer amount of time and effort he’s pored into writing hundreds, if not thousands of comments on science blogs, his rabid attempts to edit Wikipedia and his own blog posts indicates he something invested”
—————————————————————— Woo, why don’t you count the amount of comments I posted on “Orac’s” Respectful Insolence science blog and let everyone know the results ?
—————————————————————— “He denied he works for Burzynski as he stated he doesn’t even live in Texas anymore, but that is irrelevant”
“I don’t believe Marc Stephens lived in Texas for the duration of time he represented the clinic”
—————————————————————— Woo, who cares what you think about Marc Stephens ?
Prove it
—————————————————————— “I wish he would just be honest and tell us why he has spent devoted so much of his time over the past year (almost) promoting and supporting Burzynski (and Merola, for that matter)”
—————————————————————— Woo, where have I been “promoting and supporting” them ?
Everything on my blog is devoted to showing how “The Skeptics™” lie
—————————————————————— “I was going to say it would be hard to go back to calling him an idiot after hearing him speak on Saturday, as he became humanized”
—————————————————————— Woo, I have no problem calling you an “idiot” after you lied about me [2]
—————————————————————— “His folksy “y’all” and his laughter made him a real person”
“He was no longer just words on a screen, but a living, breathing human being”
“However after seeing the Tweets he posted immediately following the Hangout, where he reverted to his juvenile insults, his name-calling, his inability to write a coherent sentence and his out-and-out lack of respect for people like you and Dr. Gorksi has made me reevaluate my stance”
—————————————————————— Woo, please cite one of these “supposed”Tweetsyou have a problem with
Surely you did NOT think I was giving Bobcarte blanche to continue on Twitter without proving his case ?
—————————————————————— “He simply deserves to be ignored”
“He has a serious personality disorder and doesn’t merit any of our attention ever again”
—————————————————————— Woo, my personality is serious enough NOT to lie about people to The Guardian
Do you have a serious “compulsive liar” personality disorder ?
====================================== Guy Chapman – 10/2/2013 – 12:26 am
“He kind of admitted it when he said that he’d be persuaded by the FDA not having granted phase 3 approval; defining your rejection criteria according to some test whose outcome is already know is one of the techniques used by homeopaths”
—————————————————————— Guy, which homeopathic “remedy” has received Orphan Drug Designation (ODD) and FDA Phase 3 approval ?
—————————————————————— “You do not interpret this thing as I would like, therefore you are denying this thing happened, therefore you lie, is another,”
—————————————————————— Guy, what massive cognitive dissonance dreamworld are you living in ?
====================================== Guy Chapman – 10/2/2013 – 12:28 am
“Actually, we know what he is”
“A troll”
“Why did we let ourselves get sucked in?”
—————————————————————— “Troll” is an excusecowards use to try and label someone in order to claim that they should NOT be put in a position to do something they agreed to
====================================== IamBreastCancer – 10/2/2013 – 12:27 am
“Excellent summary, Guy”
“I agree with WooFighter that his motivation is suspect, but there are some desperately lonely attention-seeking people out there who will grasp onto any controversial issue just to get “in the game.””
“As a cancer patient myself, I was struck by the fact that he could yammer on for almost 2-1/2 hours without showing a shred of concern or compassion for cancer patients or legitimate cancer treatment questions”
“His behavior before, during and since the debate clearly shows he absolutely has no regard for real facts or evidence”
“I’m thankful that he’s unable to write coherently, as it cripples his capacity for causing harm to cancer patients”
“Unlike so many other charlatans out there, I don’t think he represents much of a threat to patient safety, just a lot of noise and bandwidth waste”
“His 15 minutes of fame needs to end”
—————————————————————— Quidama, I’m sorry you have cancer, but it sounds to me like you seriously need a “reality check”: [4]
—————————————————————— A. Tried to “control the conversation” 1. Bob Blaskiewicz
2.
—————————————————————— B.Interrupted the other individual the most: 1. 30+ – Bob Blaskiewicz interrupted DJT
2. (20+ back at ya) – DJT interrupted BB
—————————————————————— C.Asked the most questions: 1. Bob Blaskiewicz
2.
—————————————————————— D.Most speaking time: 1. Bob Blaskiewicz
2.
—————————————————————— E.Most words: 1. 13,933 – Bob Blaskiewicz
2. 8,847 – DJT
—————————————————————— F.Most characters: 1. 66,123 – Bob Blaskiewicz
2. 43,245 – DJT
—————————————————————— G.Acted as if they were teaching a class, and dictating what your possible responses were, implying that they did NOT consider this to be a “debate” where the participants were free to choose their own responses: 1. Bob Blaskiewicz
2.
—————————————————————— H.Proved they do NOT know how to debate 1. Bob Blaskiewicz
2.
—————————————————————— I.Proved they do NOT have manners 1. Bob Blaskiewicz
2.
—————————————————————— J.Must have thought they were on the Morton Downey Jr. talk show (or do you prefer Jerry Springer ?) 1. Bob Blaskiewicz
2.
—————————————————————— K.Controlled themself best:
1. 2. DJT
—————————————————————— L.Did NOT need help from any pro-position pundits
1. 2. DJT
—————————————————————— “Thanks for all you do!”
—————————————————————— You’re welcome
I will be doing some data clean-up and adding additional video transcripts
——————————————————————
What stood out to me in the first and lastvideos is that you could hear both sirens and birds
Unlike “The Skeptics™” (sirens) #whining, the birds were celebrating Hannah #winning
——————————————————————
Just as I did with the case of Burzynski patient Laura Hymas, so will I do with her friend, Hannah Bradley
Yes, unlike “Orac” I will let Hannah speak for herself instead of adding any bias as “Dr. Check my Facts” Hack does
—————————————————————— Team Hannah Blog
6/6/2013 – Posted by Hannah
(6:14)
Okay
Hello everyone
Hi
It’s uh Thursday the 6th of June
Yes
(laugh) And uh we’ve got some really good news
We’ve kind of been holding back a little but
we just wanted to be certain
so what were you going to say
Uh, I am finally off treatment
Finally off treatment which is great so as far as Dr. Burzynski is concerned, the treatment is now finished
Hannah is free
Free of the bag
Free of
Yes
Yes
How’s that feel
Yeah, it feels really kind of strange to be honest
Well you want to go back on it again
No
No
But I
I miss the bag, because I miss carrying around ohhh
Now you’re just being a little bit stupid
Um, but the great news is today, we went to go and see Hannah’s surgeon
Yes
Oncologist
A another surgeon another doctor um
Yeah
And that was a bit strange because the last time that we saw surgeon he gave us
it was probably one of the worst days of our life
Yep
He gave us the results of
Your biopsy
Yep
Which was a grade 3 tumor uh I can remember that like that was yesterday
I don’t really remember
Well but I do
It was amazing uh seeing him today because he’s just basically just agreed with everything that uh that’s been said in America that Hannah’s doing really really well she as far as she’s concerned you don’t have to have any scan for another 6 months
No
Uh so you know really kind of cancer free and
Yep
Now, you know, it is incredible
It’s a bit of a miracle and
it both hasn’t hit home
really
How much
Yeah
How much is
Well we can start our life
We can start our lives, again
Again (laugh)
And um we just want to say
a massive thank you
the list is just
this isn’t the end for us
I’m sure we
boring you
(laughing)
had a very long day
We had to wait an hour and a half (laugh)
(laugh) Sorry I couldn’t help
Calm down
The the list of people that we have to thank
Need
Need to thank is so long, and obviously way up at the top of that list has to be uh Dr. Burzynski and all of the people at the Burzynski Clinic who have been just amazing, you know
Just so supportive um and I suppose really without that treatment I don’t
I don’t think
I don’t
No
I don’t think
You don’t think you’d what ?
It’s not worth thinking about
Yeah, it’s not worth thinking about
But um we have to thank every single person that contributed and helped us and supported us along the way
Everyone that helped us raise money
Um
to thank
Here we go
Who else do we need to thank
I think
Come back up
Come on
(laugh)
We have to thank uh
like I said it’s been a long day today
Uh we have to thank Jamie Lowe
Yes
We have to thank Lindley Gooden
Who else do we have to thank ?
Uh all the people that were in Team Hannah
Yeah
All of your friends
My parents
Your parents
Mhmm
Um just everyone that’s been watching these blogs
We really, really couldn’t have done it without you
And um
We are really, really thankful
You don’t want to go do you ?
Hannah and I were thinking about doing our own comedy show because a lot of people
comments like we’re so funny
Yeah
And who’s the funniest
Uh oh you
Yeah you
Me
Me
Me
Um
So, I don’t know what else to say really apart from, you know, this is really a bit of a fairy tale for us
We know how fortunate
we are and we know how
people
who we met along the way
who weren’t
haven’t been as fortunate as us
So we uh
So, are you alright down there ?
we’re talking about something serious
Very
Yeah, we know a lot of people who haven’t been as fortunate
As fortunate as we have people are forever in our hearts
You know, um, we know how lucky we are and um
We’re going to make the most of our lives the most of our lives together
Um, yeah
We really do think that
No don’t
You know, there was a time
Many, many times where I really didn’t think that Hannah would be here but, you know, we’re talking 2 1/2 years ago that she was diagnosed and she’s doing better than ever even though she is yawning
(laugh)
Um
I don’t think there’s any words that really put into a sense of how so lucky we think we are, and I really think it’s how our legacy to live with that and try and inspire other people as much as we can as well
Ok
So, we’re not going to get go anywhere we’re still we’ll still let you know from time to time how we’re getting on
Uh um I also think we need to give a massive shout out to Ben and Laura Hymas as well who, who really, we went to see them the week before we went to, out to America, and it was there, was a, was a bit of a shock
Really
Realizing what we were about to take on but um she’s
I’m very sorry
She’s someone else who’s done well and we want to give a big shout out to them because we know that they’ve got their lives ahead of them as well as we do too
So, I think without any further ado we’ll give your famous wave
(wave)
It’s not really a wave, is it
Thank you very much everyone
Thank you
Big hug
Wanna hug ?
C’mon
C’mon hug us [10]
====================================== London[1]
4/2010 – first met Hannah and we fell in love and since then our relationship has gone from strength to strength [3]
Hannah (28) has great personality and fantastic sense of humour [3]
10/5/2012 – from Elstead[12]
4/4/2013 – Hannah Bradley (28)[11]
Hannah Bradley from London, UK [15]
====================================== MOOD ======================================
Looking back now, was quite naive [1]
2/2011 – world took dramatic turn [11]
Hannah Bradley from London, UK [15]
To my complete horror [11]
whole world was turned upside down [11]
confused [11]
scared of all the unanswered questions that lay before me
why was this happening to ME? [11]
What did the future hold? [11]
Will I be okay? [11]
absolutely terrified as realised something seriously wrong [15]
Everybody else went into panic, but shock calmed [15]
Inside, scared, could see how frightened Pete was [15]
wasn’t easy decision but really wasn’t another choice [15]
Fear pulsed through me as was wheeled to theatre for operation [15]
4/2011 – thought once surgery over, tumour would be gone [1]
“Hello,” I croaked [15]
“Have I still got all my hair?” [15]
beamed as Pete nodded [15]
long blonde locks were pride and joy, and surgeons managed to operate without having to shave any [15]
Waiting for results was one of most harrowing periods for me and my partner [11]
had to wait for results of biopsy for few weeks and remained positive [3]
while trying to remain positive throughout [11]
tried to keep busy so didn’t dwell on what doctors would say [15]
it was hard [15]
sensed before they even spoke [15]
faces were so serious it had to be bad news [15]
Obviously medical professionals have to be detached when deliver news, but we completely broke down [15]
tried to bite back sobs so could hear what they were saying [15]
blinked for moment, realising meant me [15]
left hospital, in daze [15]
went to sit in park for 2 or 3 hours, working out how to tell everyone [15]
rang dad, feeling ashamed he had to deal with news [15]
didn’t want to upset him [15]
Pete and I rang close friends and family and became easier each time [15]
got chain going to spread news so didn’t have to ring everybody, which was relief [15]
gave me space to come to terms with diagnosis [15]
Once able to get head around it, felt detached from it: [15]
needed to get through next stage now [15]
needed 6 weeks of radiotherapy, did that, thinking this would make me better [1]
Hannah’s bravery and resolve once again rose up as shortly after this she started 6 week course of radiotherapy[3]
news was not good and world was rocked once more as results showed Grade III tumour[11]
whole world suddenly fell apart again and that very moment I didn’t know how to go on [11]
knew had to carry on and from somewhere I didn’t know existed within me, found some bravery and started to have next course of treatment, 6-week course of radiotherapy[11]
hope you will understand this was REALLY difficult for me as I loved my hair and without it felt horrible and ugly [11]
coped well at first, until hair came out in clumps [15]
warned could be few patches of fall, but lost it all [15]
wore headscarves but mourned my hair [15]
work in skincare sales and used to having to look my best [15]
know it was vain, but hair was part of my femininity [15]
missed it [15]
awful but kept going, knowing had to [15]
Seeking alternatives [15]
full of hope [15]
know it’s long fight ahead but feel everyone is behind me and
get so much from that [15]
have a mantra, which like to think I made up but think I read somewhere: [15]
‘You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.’ [15]
exactly how I feel [15]
there was some hope [12]
was truly an incredible time and once again I was filled with hope as so many people came to my aid to support me by raising money and donating what they had [11]
still so thankful for all that support [1]
absolutely overjoyed [1]
wouldn’t turn my back on conventional medicine, but would advise anyone in situation like mine to look into other options – there could always be another way [1]
“If this whole thing has taught me anything, it’s that.” [1]
Thankfully along with other treatment, strategy has worked for me and I’m now trying to help others who are fighting against this horrible disease[11]
====================================== HEALTH ======================================
was salesperson when diagnosed with cancer[1]
ate on the run [1]
smoked[1]
had no real symptoms or warning signs[1]
2/2011 – out of the blue, Hannah had major seizure in middle of the night [3]
2/2011 – one night Hannah’s life changed drastically without any prior health concerns suddenly had major seizure[12]
2/2011 – had grand seizure while asleep [1]
2/2011 – major seizure in middle of night [11]
arms up in the air, body shaking [1]
2/2011 – lost consciousness and was rushed to hospital [3 + 11]
woke in hospital, had no idea what had happened, tests revealed brain tumour size of golf ball in frontal lobe [15]
didn’t know anything wrong before had massive seizure in sleep [15]
boyfriend thought was having nightmare at first, but when couldn’t wake me, realised was unconscious and called ambulance [15]
came round in hospital few days later and didn’t remember anything [15]
2/2011 – 4/2011 – don’t remember much about 2 months that followed apart from seeing many doctors, having constant headaches and a # of seizures[11]
had constant headaches and number of seizures[3]
Eventually CT scan showed brain tumour, turned out to be very aggressive, anaplastic astrocytoma[1]
week after CAT and MRI scans told had brain tumour size of golf ball [15]
in frontal lobe and probably growing there for years [15]
doctor gave 3 options: [15]
leave it and see what happened
have biopsy to discover what type of tumour it was and how aggressive
go for surgery to try to remove as much as possible [15]
diagnosed with very serious brain tumour[3]
diagnosed with very aggressive brain tumour[11-12]
2/2011 – 4/2011 – have no memories of that time, from the night of seizure to coming around from 8-hour operation to remove tumour 2 months later[1]
had about 4 more seizures – including one 2 nights before surgery last April – after discharged because tumour growing and putting so much pressure on brain [15]
Pain throbbed through inside of skull as peeled eyes open [15]
Groggy, focused and saw Pete smiling down at me [15]
was in hospital 5 days before going home to rest and getting biopsy results [15]
2 weeks later, went back to see consultant and specialist nurse [15]
news was not good and our world was rocked once more as results showed Grade III tumour[3]
tumour was cancerous and had scary name – anaplastic astrocytoma [15]
4 grades of brain tumours with 4th being worst [15]
Mine grade 3 [15]
statistics quoted said person with grade-3 tumour lives around 5 years [15]
life expectancy for people with tumours like this was 18 months[1]
2 weeks into treatment was hit by wave of tiredness [15]
so shattered had to go to bed for week [15]
went well for 1st few weeks but followed by hair falling out and bouts of tiredness and lethargy[3]
lost hair
started having seizures and didn’t know how long she had to live [12]
was still having seizures and lost independence with losing driving licence [11]
On top of all of this, dealing with losing driving licence as had number of seizures and now has epilepsy[3]
At end of July, had another MRI scan, revealed still residue left from tumour [15]
6 weeks after radiotherapy finished, had another MRI to see what was going on with tumour, Once again more bad news, as there were still remnants of aggressive tumour[3]
Although it was hard I remained hopeful that 6 weeks after radiotherapy would help and I could go on to live a normal life but again results of next MRI were not good [11]
There were still remnants of aggressive tumour[11]
At this point treatment options where very limited and life expectancy was not very long [11]
was told only options available on National Health Service were to operate or have radiotherapy again [15]
Chemotherapy also mentioned but not strong enough for that [15]
doctors said were really uncertain of expected life span if didn’t do anything and since treatment options in UK so limited, we want to try something else [15]
didn’t know 100% whether would work, but had to believe in something; wanted to be positive [1]
Just 8 months after starting treatment had some incredible news [12]
latest scans show she is cancer free[12]
desire to beat this disease led me to make number other lifestyle changes [11]
One of biggest changes has been dietary; specifically cutting out most sugars from my diet [11]
involved learning how to cook, which in itself was huge challenge because I hated cooking with a passion [11]
Over time I started experimenting with different foods and became more and more adventurous and dare I say it, I even started to enjoy coming up with new healthy recipes [11]
quickly learned that exclusive food of cancer is sugar, so quickly embraced this and cut out almost completely starchy carbohydrates and refined sugars by incorporating sugar free/starch free food plan [11]
idea being that diet would feed my body, mind and starve cancer into submission [11]
also learnt this type of diet is good for blood sugar regulation, body composition and is consistent with the way that our ancestors ate thousands of years ago [11]
After months of experimentation and with help of couple of great cooks, have learned to make delicious and nutritious healthy meals and this is why I decided to write my own book, The Team Hannah Cookbook[11]
It’s my contribution to helping and inspiring others to eat a better diet [11]
I would hope you can enjoy these recipes and make them part of your diet [11]
This book will show you how easy it is uto cut out the carbs and still eat “normally.” [11]
I now believe that dieting and counting calories doesn’t work [11]
Low carb is the way forward [11]
You will find in my book great low carbohydrate recipes for – Breakfasts, Breads & Pastries, Starters, Salads, Mains, Desserts, Treats [11]
====================================== TREATMENT ====================================== 2/2011 – partner, Pete, called ambulance, was rushed to hospital, unconscious [1]
decided to have operation, hopeful would get rid of it [15]
in hospital 2 weeks following 1st seizure and put on strong medication to stop from having fits [15]
kept awake 2 1/2 hours of 6-hour surgery – medical team wanted to make sure weren’t damaging any part of brain, where tumour was, relating to speech and language [15]
made list of what to talk about with speech therapist during operation, such as meeting Pete at conference in Croatia year before; favourite American TV series, Friends, niece who’d been staying with family week before seizure [15]
remember having to touch fingers with thumbs to check movement still there, hand or my leg would involuntarily move when surgeon touched particular part of brain and asking anaesthetist to scratch itch on nose [15]
“It’s going fine, we’re putting you back to sleep now,” voice said and everything went black [15]
4/2011 – 8-hour operation to remove tumour[1]
4/1/2011 – decided to have surgery underwent 6 1/2 hour operation[3]
4/1/2011 – surgery and underwent grueling 6 1/2 hour operation[11]
To my relief
results of operation were fairly successful and surgeon managed to remove uhmost of tumour[11]
diagnosed with Anaplastic Astrocytoma brain tumour and over next few months endured 6-hour operation and 6 weeks of radiotherapy[12]
started radiotherapy 8 weeks after surgery [15]
full on – 6 weeks of treatment, Monday to Friday [15]
needed 6 weeks of radiotherapy, did that, thinking this would make me better [1]
radiotherapy went well for 1st few weeks but fears were confirmed when hair started to fall out [11]
was gruelling – hair fell out, had quite a few seizures – then, at end, scan showed still had remnants of very aggressive tumour[1]
Pete started researching alternative treatments from beginning and was Dr Stanislaw Burzynski, biochemist and physician in US, who seemed right choice for me [15]
found pioneering treatment in America which could give her a chance [12]
One name kept cropping up [1]
Dr Burzynski[1]
treatment is controversial – claims to have identified peptides called antineoplastons, which act as molecular switch to turn off cancer cells without harming normal cells [15]
After reading everything we could, decided to try it [15]
At his clinic in Houston he’s developed a treatment using anti-cancer compounds he discovered and now manufactures – and is treating aggressive tumours, especially ones in the brain [1]
controversial [1]
medical community claims unscientific and unproven [1]
oncologist didn’t want me to go – he wanted to monitor tumour and maybe give more radiotherapy in future [1]
that was like containing it, not getting rid of it, and treatment hadn’t worked so far [1]
Dr Burzynski seemed to be only hope of getting rid of cancer for good [1]
In order to get it needed to raise £150,000 [12]
treatment wasn’t cheap (about £200,000) [1]
treatment very costly, and even using all savings didn’t have nearly enough [15]
£200,000 (Dh1.16 million) needed to go to US, plus ongoing shipping of drugs from States and private monthly scans will need for 12-18 months, was out of reach [15]
Family and friends offered to help, soon there was Team Hannah website [15]
Within few weeks had £35,000, enough to go to US for consultation and start treatment [15]
didn’t know 100% whether would work, but had to believe in something; wanted to be positive [1]
Treatment available in America[12]
Luckily was able to take part in phase 2 clinical trial in Texas, USA [11]
treatment isn’t available via NHS so had to raise considerable amount of money [11]
12/2011 – flew with Pete to Burzynski Clinic[1]
—————————————————————— 12/10/2011 – Saturday – video blog
leaving tomorrow morning
—————————————————————— 12/11/2011 – Day 1 – Sunday
flew to USA massive headache
thought was going to faint
—————————————————————— 12/12/2011 – Day 2 – Monday Burzynski Clinic
temp check
vision test
meeting: Dr. Yi oncologist / Dr. Greg Burzynski
(Dr. Rowkowski)
—————————————————————— 12/13/2011 – Day 3 – Tuesday Burzynski Clinic
inject sugar syrup PET scan
MRI scan review
?’s memory / spelling jumbled
fill out form Valium
(as much local anesthetic as could give her w/o knocking her out) catheter – Hickman line
(painful / really painful)
—————————————————————— 12/14/2011 – Day 4 – Wednesday Burzynski Clinic
(feeling wrecked / absolutely wrecked)
start treatment 6 doses of antineoplaston a day 4 hours apart almost 24 hours continuously
(had chest x-ray)
(Dr. Barbera – talk pain medication)
lessons: clamps / hoses / pump
—————————————————————— 12/15/2011 – Day 5 – Thursday Burzynski Clinic
(Day 2 of treatment)
lessons: change pump
—————————————————————— 12/20/2011 – Day 10 – Tuesday Burzynski Clinic Dr. Yi / Dr. SRB enhancing – asked to stay month – next MRI to be done
—————————————————————— 12/22/2011 – Day 12 – Thursday Dr. Hilary Jones on Daybreak
(Pete’s colleague)
—————————————————————— 12/24/2011 – Day 14 – Saturday
fever
bad breathing
shivering all night
—————————————————————— 12/25/2011 – Day 15 – Sunday Burzynski Clinic
flu symptoms
breathing
headache
uncontrollable chills couldn’t stop
Monica off ANP
absolutely exhausted
in bed
little bit of swelling back of head
—————————————————————— 12/27/2011 – Day 17 – Tuesday
back on ANP
temp 102
called Burzynski Clinic off ANP
temp down / up
—————————————————————— 12/28/2011 – Day 18 – Wednesday Burzynski Clinic on ANP much smaller dose
exhausted
close to breaking / cracking
—————————————————————— 12/29/2011 – Day 19 – Thursday
hospital “I’m at my wits end” “I don’t feel I can take anymore”
—————————————————————— 12/30/2011 – Day 20 – Friday
last week up & down
off on off on off
fever
chills
shaking
viral infection
bacterial infection
had to go to E.R.
surreal
—————————————————————— 12/31/2011 – Day 21 – Saturday
fever in middle of night
temp 102 Dr. SRB thinks flu-like symptoms or tumor actually breaking down ->
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1/2012 – started treatment[11]
—————————————————————— 1/1/2012 – Day 22 – Sunday Burzynski Clinic
feel drunky
prob w pump – not closing
felt like completely drunk
double vision
Nurse said anti-seizure drug she hadn’t taken before
bit shaky
Gary – directions re pump equip
—————————————————————— 1/17/2012 – Day 38 – Tuesday Burzynski Clinic
temp 101.8
throat infection
If 102 take off ANP
BC 3x – blood – supplies
antibiotics 1 day
antibiotics 2 day – over 102 last night
fever
antibiotics been on 3 days off ANP
disappointed
pointless
—————————————————————— 1/20/2012 – Day 41 – Friday
fever
104 (103.9)
Friday night
—————————————————————— 1/21/2012 – Day 42 – Saturday Burzynski Clinic
temp up to 104
Dr. on-call – Ibuprofen 102.5
yesterday afternoon (blood) rash ? off ANP Dr. Popper
—————————————————————— 1/23/2012 – Day 44 – Monday Burzynski Clinic Dr. SRB
gave name from pic
some itch MRI – was to have Wed (12/29/2011 prev MRI) less tumor less enhancement shrunk by at least 10%
call Dad
Been 1 month
Discharge
take Ashley
Rick
Fri – leave
—————————————————————— 1/26/2012 – Day 47 – Thursday Burzynski Clinic Stable Disease
stabilization
—————————————————————— 1/27/2012 – Friday – leave
—————————————————————— medication is administered directly into your body through Hickman line 24 hours a day[1]
not an easy option [1]
Pete and I learnt how to prepare and administer treatment ourselves and carried on in Britain for another 18 months (1 year 6 months)[1]
were there for 7 weeks, and scans showed in that time tumour reduced by 11%[1]
Thankfully has been successful in shrinking tumour[11]
blood was checked twice a week, was scanned every 6 weeks at private hospital [1]
Most importantly, seemed to be working [1]
—————————————————————— 6/2012 – back 6 months 3 scans
6/13/2011
12/7/2011
3/21/2012 – 1
5/2/2012 – 2
7/29/2012 – 3
7 weeks at Burzynski Clinic
Complete Response
—————————————————————— tumour kept getting smaller, in January this year it was all gone [1]
started treatment and after 9 months had complete response and will continue on treatment until 4/2013 / 5/2013[3]
now off treatment but still being monitored [1]
Dr Burzynski isn’t miracle worker [1]
There are well-publicised cases of families raising money for children to be treated at the clinic but children still tragically dying [1]
People have posted on our website that it doesn’t work, but I’m convinced that, if we hadn’t found him, I wouldn’t be here today [1]
====================================== SUPPORT ====================================== Pete Cohen:Team Hannah set up to save life of my partner, Hannah Bradley, who’s 28 years old and has brain cancer[3]
All this time, without knowing, Pete had been looking into things, searching, talking to anyone and everyone who could possibly help [1]
needed to raise around £200,000 to give her opportunity to have life-saving treatment at The Burzynski Clinic in Houston, Texas [3]
Pete launched campaign – friends and family gathered around, held events, our local radio station supported us – in 2 months already had £100,000, enough to start treatment[1]
You helped her to get it… [12]
Eagle Radio wanted to help give Hannah hope by raising money towards her fund [12]
you wanted to help too [12]
Hannah came in to Eagle Radio to meet Breakfast Show presenters PG and Bev[12]
Listen to interview here: [12]
Pete (Hannah’s boyfriend) met our reporter Anthony Zahra and starts by talking about how couple met: [12]
Jeremy (Hannah’s dad) spoke to our reporter Elizabeth Williams:[12]
photos on Hope for Hannah appeal [12]
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Fundraising events you told us about [12]
—————————————————————— 7/21 – Matthew Cank from Farnham doing sponsored bike ride with friends riding from John O’Groats to Lands End[12] http://2theend.co.uk
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** 2/24 (Friday) – Pure Dance at Backline, Guildford from 8pm to 2.30am House, electro & trance music with DJs on rotation Entry £10 with all proceeds going to the appeal [12]
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** 2/25 (Saturday) – Dinner, Dance and Auction at The Mandolay Hotel, Guildford (6.30pm to 12.30am) evening of fantastic food & excellent entertainment [12]
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** 3/3 (Saturday) – special night held at Godalming Naval Club by Hannah’s best friend
£7.50 a ticket All money to the appeal Includes – food, disco, raffles, auction and more [12]
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** 5/19 (Saturday) – Health, Beauty & Fitness Fair at Clock Barn Hall, Godalming Free admission, free talks on health, fitness and nutrition Includes – mini treatments, fitness drop in classes, taster sessions, new health products Raffle & bucket collection to raise money for Team Hannah [12]
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Your generosity was astounding and Hannah surpassed her target much earlier than she could have dreamed [12]
Hannah’s Annectdote
A film about Hannah’s journey to The Burzynski Clinic
film we made called Hannah’s Anecdote [3]
made to share with world Hannah’s journey to beat cancer and live normal life [3]
you can see Team Hannah blog we started October last year as well more information about Dr. Burzynski and treatment for cancer [3]
totally aware of controversy surrounding Dr. Burzynski but have seen with our own eyes he saved Hannah’s life [3]
share this with everyone you can, so together we can raise awareness of Hannah’s success and of Dr. Burzynski [3]
cookbook by Hannah available at teamhannah.com [1]
Any help you give will be most appreciated and will keep you updated with Hannah’s journey [3] http://www.teamhannah.com/
Thank you for donating, raising awareness and simply helping to give Hannah hope [12]
—————————————————————— Hannah’s Annectdote: (40:42)
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A film about Hannah’s journey to The Burzynski Clinic
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Look
You’ve got a spirit level in the cam, in the front of the camera for a reason
I know
Ok
—————————————————————— Hannah’s Anectdote
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I’m Hanna Bradley and I’m 27 years old
I have
Well, I found out I had a brain tumor in February 2011
The way I found out is, I had a seizure in, during the middle of the night
I don’t remember anything, but my partner Pete tells me that I did
Rushed to hospital and about week later I was diagnosed with a, an aggressive brain tumor
And then I had to have an operation to remove the brain tumor and I went back for the results, which weren’t that good and I had to go for a radiotherapy
And I spoke to a friend of mine, an incredible man, he’s a doctor, he, he’s retired, he said, why don’t you just look and find people in the world who still have this condition and still alive
So, that’s what I did
And I found some people, and it, and they all led to this guy Burzynski, but you mention Burzynski to uh people who work in the world of cancer, and it’s just like, they, you know, the barriers come up immediately Chemotherapy, radiotherapy, there’s no question about the fact that these things uh, are reflective and they are, save people’s lives, but that’s not what Hannah wants to do
(If I could go there, and take myself off there, I could) Burzynski’s work is, some people wouldn’t say it is gene-targeted therapy
Basically it’s peptides Peptides uh form amino acids in the body, and he’s found from his research that uh, certain people do not have these types of peptides, and uh especially people with certain types of cancer
What have you got to lose, and what’s the worst thing that can happen, if it doesn’t work ?
What’s the best thing that can happens ?
It saves her life
(laughter)
(I’ll give the ass a smack)
—————————————————————— video blog 13th of November 2011 (2:00)
——————————————————————
(Come sit down)
Good morning
Good morning
Good Morning
Why this week is such a big week is we go to see Hannah’s uh GP tomorrow, and we really need him on side with the treatment that Hannah’s going to have, and, and that could pose a bit of a challenge, because this treatment with Dr. Burzynski is not peer-reviewed, and what that means is that, with the NICE guidelines in this country, people are
very unlike to promote a uh treatment that isn’t peer-reviewed in the way that they would want it to be, but, we’re hoping that he will help and support is when we come back
Yeah
We will also go and see the oncologist this
Yes
which is gonna be a very interesting conversation because again, we want their support
It’s unlikely, very unlikely that they’ll give us the support that we need
because when Hannah comes back, she’s going to need MRI’s every month, and that’s just not gonna happen
We’re going to have to pay for that, but, we’ll let the pets do that of course
We’ll let you know next week, but this week is gone, but for now this is Team Hannah saying, Team Hannah, Team Hannah saying
Goodbye
Bye
Goodbye
That the wave that you do
(laugh)
I’m getting better at the wave
I don’t know about that, darling
—————————————————————— Royal Free Hospital London – December 2011 (3:19)
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You know, maybe I’ve been led down a garden path if you like, going to work with Burzynski, because you speak to any oncologist; which we have, lots of (?) specialists in this field and they say:
“No don’t do it”
“The guy’s a charlatan”
“You’re wasting your time”
“You’re wasting your money”
“It’s not going to work”
“There’s no clinical research”
But I feel in my heart that we’ve gotta do this
Not just because, you know, what is there left to do, but I actually think it’s going to work
Is it going to be a placebo effect, or is it actually going to be that what this guy does works ?
I’ve spoken to people who he, who he’s treated uh and they all can’t speak highly enough of him and of the clinic that we’re going to
So I’m going to film as much as I can of her journey, and she’s happy for me to film
And the clinic in Houston are happy for me to film whatever I want
So I’m going to
—————————————————————— video blog 10th of December 2011 (4:10)
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I don’t know how many blog videos we’ve done but we’ve done quite, quite a few and I think it’s amazing that we’ve got to this point
It doesn’t seem very long ago that we were sitting and talking about doing this, and within a few months we’ve raised all this money and we’re, my bags are packed
Your bags is almost packed
My bag is packed
And your bag is packed and we’re leaving tomorrow morning
I know there’s been a little bit of controversy
Yeah
about what we’re doing, but please, whatever you hear about it, we have done a lot of research into this
and we feel very confident about what we’re doing, were going to get very well looked after and we’ll be able to share all of that with you
So, next time you see us we’re going to be in
Houston
Texas
—————————————————————— Day One (4:52)
——————————————————————
Good morning Hannah
Good morning
And where are we ?
At the airport
So, you ready for this ?
I’m ready
Ready to start this next phase of our journey ?
Yeah
Ok
I’m really ready
I hurt, like I’ve got a massive headache
Yeah
That was pretty traumatic for you, wasn’t it ?
Yep
Pressure
Um, and getting through customs and everything like that
I felt like I was going to faint
Um, yeah, apart from that all good
Yeah ?
Yeah
And how’s it feel to be in Texas
It doesn’t feel any different at the moment
(laughing) (?) that’s a (?) Avis rent-a-car thing-a-ma-bob
—————————————————————— Day Two (5:37)
——————————————————————
(?) there you go
Right-o
Hello everyone
Hi
I’ve
Ok
I’ve got less hair than Pete
Are you looking in the camera or are you looking in here ?
I’m looking in here
Uh what are you looking there ?
(laughing)
Hello
Everyone
Today is going to be a very interesting day
We’re going to film, all that we can
We’re not going to meet Dr. Burzynski
We won’t be meeting him until the 19th, but we feel more than happy to be meeting his fellow doctors
What’d you reckon ?
You’re going to kill me in the car before you, we get there ?
Why
Because you’re trying to film and drive, and you don’t know where we’re going
Well spotted
Look
There it is
We’ve finally made it
So how’d you feel, that we’re finally here ?
Yeah
I feel good
Do you ?
Yeah
You ready ?
What are your expectations ?
I have no idea
Well, lets go and find out
Don’t have any expectations although I sure don’t want to be disappointed
——————————————————————
[Temperature]
(Close your lips please)
——————————————————————
[Eyesight]
(Ok
How about this one ?)
D
(Ok. We’ll have to go )
(laughing)
(I’m sorry)
Should I actually be able to ?
(#5)
Ok
P E C F D
(Ok. Good)
——————————————————————
So, was that bad ?
Uh, can’t see any of them
Oh, ok
—————————————————————— Meeting with Dr. Yi and Dr. Greg Burzynski (7:14)
——————————————————————
(?) we’ve reviewed your scans, your MRI, and we’re very aware of your case
Yes
We have permission to start you on the antineoplastons
Mhmm
which as you know are in the final stages of drug approval
Yeah
Dr. Yi is the oncologist on this case
Yeah
Likewise Dr. Rowkowski will be involved
Likewise I’ve an I’ll, I’ll be on the case
Ok. Great
And my father as you know is aware of what we’re doing here
Yeah
So as early as Wednesday we’ll be starting treatment
Mhmm
Tomorrow we can put in the catheter, and this is an external
—————————————————————— Day Three (7:44)
——————————————————————
What else is happening today ?
Look
Don’t want to think about it right now
Gonna have some sugar syrup put into me
(?) PET scan
Yeah
Which they inject sugar
I’d rather eat some
Yeah
Inject sugar and then you’re also having a, this Hickman line fitted
Yeah
Hopefully they’re gonna let me put on a white coat and come and be by your side
You can’t put on a white coat
You’re not a doctor
Well hopefully they’ll let me film
Well I don’t care about filming
I just care about you being there
—————————————————————— Hannah’s MRI scan review (8:15)
——————————————————————
So this is the one that was done in December, right ?
Yeah
This is the one that was done in December, and it has increased
‘Cause if I look at the, it’s more intense
Yeah
There’s more weight
Yeah
upon the image
Ok
Seen change in a month, right ?
Yeah
It’s in a month
That’s why
Less than a month
Yeah
That’s why kind of it’s a little scary
’cause it has
I mean it looks like it’s more prominent now
Yeah
—————————————————————— (8:46)
——————————————————————
after (?) this MRI scan, and you can see that the tumor is enhancing
She doesn’t know that
How will I tell her ?
Probably not, but she’s probably going to ask, and if the tumor grows like it’s, then you just saw in the scan, then how long does Hannah have left
—————————————————————— (9:06)
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Yeah
That would mean very
That’s pretty good
Ok
That’s good
That’s good enough
So any memory problems ?
Any speaking proc, speaking problems
No
No, not really
Ok
Spelling
Spelling, yes
Ever since surgery
So, what kind of problem ?
Like when you spell you miss letters ?
Yeah
Her spelling
Why, yeah
It’s just I’m jumbled
Ok
Yeah
—————————————————————— (9:28)
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Right
So uh were just getting ready now for Hannah to go in and have her PET scan and uh catheter Hickman line fitted and she’s just filling in the form
I’m not even going to ask her how she’s feeling or anything like that ’cause she’s feeling a little emotional
—————————————————————— (9:48)
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(?)
(laughing) You’ve just taken some , some Valium as well, have you ?
Not helping
This is like your biggest con, fear, isn’t it ?
I just show everyone what you’ve just done to my hand as well
—————————————————————— (10:04)
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What I’m doing is I’m creating a little tunnel under the skin
So I have to use just a little bit of pressure
So if I hurt you, you tell me
Ok ?
How are you feeling ?
Shhh
(laugh)
Well, you’ve done so well darling
I’m feeling really cold
Hungry ?
Yep
Alright
—————————————————————— (10:30)
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You look like you’re some sort of Holy Woman
People are going to come in here and bow to you
Did, did, did you feel that when it was going in and stuff ?
Not really
Little bit
It’s a little bit painful now ?
Yeah
It’s quite really painful now
Yeah
Well, it’s a massive tic, of something we have to get done
Yeah, I know
—————————————————————— Day Four (10:52)
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I’m feeling wrecked, absolutely wrecked
(laugh)
Well you had, bit of Valium yesterday
Yeah
And you had as much um local anesthetic
Yep
as he could give you he said, without knocking you out,
Yeah
but you were very, very brave yesterday, do you not think ?
I don’t think so
Why not ?
I wasn’t brave about the (canada ?) they put in here
—————————————————————— (11:23)
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Yes
What’d you think of
What, now what did you think of Judith Curran ?
Talk to
Oh, she’s great
( Skype on at the same time)
She’s like a mother
Yeah
Yeah
Is she ?
Yeah
(Yeah that’s fine. Whatever)
Yeah, she really does love you
( I’ve got something)
More than most
(?) all mom’s girlfriends
Mum uh Hannah just, I said, I just asked what she thought of you and she said she thought you’re like a mother
(Pete’s Mum)
Ohhh
I really do need you here
Oh dear
Well you have to have a partner mother at the moment
Yeah
But you need cuddles you mean ?
Yeah
Ohhh lots of cuddles
Oh no, no, no don’t
I asked
I’ll go
I need something dressed there
She needs help getting dressed
—————————————————————— (12:16)
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It’s, it’s, you know, it’s basically it’s uh, it’s a little roadway right into your bloodstream, so yeah, it has to stay very clean, and our thing is that we have to teach you
Yeah
how to do this
Yeah
—————————————————————— (12:32)
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You get 6 doses of antineoplaston a day,
Mhmm
they’re 4 hours apart
So, yeah, it’s almost 24 hours continuously
Mhmm
—————————————————————— (12:41)
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These are your bags
Ok. Thank you
and I’m going to wait until Dr. Barbera comes and talks to you about the pain medicine
Yeah
Then we will go ahead and hook up
Yes
because she did get the chest x-ray and everything’s a go
—————————————————————— (12:51)
——————————————————————
And everything goes in with a push and a twist
Ok
Quite simple
Alright
Yep
So obviously we’re gonna, when the fluid, we need to open up the clamp
Mhmm
And I always double, triple-check, make sure all the clamps are open
Yep
—————————————————————— (13:10)
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I’ve been on the treatment, I don’t know
It, it’s about
I don’t know
Half day ?
How are you feeling ?
It doesn’t hurt
Yeah
And this is what you’ve got to carry around with you
Yep
Now it’s like
It’s (?) my new bike
a baby
Something you have to have with you all of the time, and me with you all of the time
Oh (laugh) Oh god
I can cope with that
Ever since this all happened it seems like it’s just been one thing after another
Yeah
of obstacles
Yep
But we’ve got this far
Who woulda believed that we’d raise the money to get out here
Mhmm
which we have done, and now we’ve started on the treatment and I am pretty impressed with them there I must admit
Yeah
They’re really nice
—————————————————————— Day Five (13:52)
——————————————————————
Yeah
This is day, it’s day 4 yeah ?
Day 2 on the job
Day 5
Day 2 on the treatment
Mmmm I need a bit of a shave
um and um yep
You need a bit of a shave
So do I
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
—————————————————————— (14:08)
——————————————————————
Hi
So, can I get ya
You need a pen ?
Uh, yes please
So pull this back ?
Pull it back to undo the lock
Ok, pump is off, so your next step is to disconnect it
So push in and twist, clockwise
—————————————————————— (14:26)
——————————————————————
How’s your new friend ?
Yeah, she’s good
Yeah ?
Mmm
What have we done today ?
We’ve learnt more lessons
I’ve learnt more lessons about changing the, changing the pump
How did I do ?
Honey you did well
You think so ?
considering
Considering what ? (laughing) How challenged I am
No, considering how hard it actually is
That you did well
—————————————————————— Day Ten (14:54) Meeting with Dr. Yi and Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski and
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Yeah, I think so far where we are we have been very impressed with all we’ve seen
Thank you very much
It looks like (?) we should not (?)
a pretty traumatic day because uh we met with Dr. Burzynskibut he didn’t give us the sort of news that we wanted uh because he’s concerned that the treatment may be enhancing uh and he wants us to stay here until at least um Hannah’s had one month on the treatment and to do MRI and see what’s going on
We can stay here
That’s the most important thing
Just imagine if we had to go home
You know ?
I know you’re tired of all this, you know, and its hard work, and it’s, you know ?
—————————————————————— Day Twelve (15:46)
——————————————————————
So the last time we kind of filmed was when we were with Dr. Burzynski and him saying do we want to stay and that
Yep
And how, how do you feel about that now ?
Yeah, i’ve got my head ’round it
Do you have faith in him and ?
Yeah, again I know that I’m in the best hands
—————————————————————— Pete’s colleague Dr. Hilary Jones appears on ‘Daybreak’ morning TV show in the UK (16:04)
——————————————————————
Are there question marks for you with regards to going over there to this particular clinic ?
I think what we have to bare in mind is that uh the treatment that, that Dr. Burzynski is offering is, is very uh experimental
It’s pioneering research, and pioneers in medicine tend to get a rough ride to begin with, and uh he hasn’t uh uh published the numbers of people in trials that convince the established authorities that his treatment uh works
It’s very interesting treatment
We’ve known about these peptides which can switch uh tumor genes on or off, and this is a different approach to these kind of tumors, that’s uh over and above oncology, chemotherapy, radiotherapy
Um, his results um, if you look at them um, sometimes appear extraordinary in some cases um but of course not in all cases
So it’s very difficult to evaluate, how effective it is
I I researched it pretty carefully myself because I have a friend there at the moment with his partner and the reports I’m getting back are they’re getting excellent treatment, excellent support, very impressed
This is somebody who, who knows a lot about medicine
Very impressed with what’s going on there
Um, we need to keep an open mind
Yes
Um it’s unfortunate it costs so much money but pioneering treatment does, and I really hope, that if you go that route that it works out for you
I really hope
Thank you
Indeed
—————————————————————— (17:20)
——————————————————————
So, that was uh, I didn’t know uh he was doing that, and actually the weird thing was that the day before I had actually contacted him just to say that we were doing really well
Yeah
But poor old Hilary was so caught up in that yesterday
On Twitter, I mean it was just nonstop
People just saying
“Burzynski’s a fraud”
Um, but we certainly don’t feel that he’s a fraud, do we ?
No
No
I get the impression that he’s 100% genuine
—————————————————————— 12/25/2011 – Christmas Day (17:50)
——————————————————————
Hello there
Hi. How are you today ?
We’re doing ok
Documenting that ?
Um yeah I’m documenting
(laughing)
everything
That’s against the rules
Really ? Oh dear
(? again)
Collecting evidence ?
Yeah, I am
We’re gonna sue
We’re gonna, we’re gonna sue a few people
(laughing)
That’s what you love to do in America, right ?
—————————————————————— (18:10)
——————————————————————
So same symptoms ?
Yeah
The flu symptoms
Mhmm
Yeah. Ok. How’s your breathing ?
The same
That was, really bad yesterday, wasn’t it ?
Yeah
Ok. Um, any headache ?
Yep
Ok. And you said you had, are they tremors or are they like shakes, like chills ?
Yeah, chills
Chills, ok
But, you know, like I couldn’t stop
Ok.
myself
It was just
Yeah
Ok. So it was un, uncontrollable ?
Yeah
Ok
—————————————————————— (18:41)
——————————————————————
This is how we spent Christmas Day, in the Burzynski Clinic
With the lovely Monica
Of course
And
How (?) would you have it any other way
And the Christmas songs
Hey (mouthing words to song)
—————————————————————— (19:04)
——————————————————————
We went to the clinic this morning, and she was shivering all night, fever
So she’s off the antineoplastons for the day, and she’s just basically in bed now, just absolutely exhausted, and now she’s got a little bit of swelling on the back of her head, which obviously is a ca, cause for concern when you’ve got a uh, a brain tumor
—————————————————————— Day Eighteen (19:04)
—————————————————————— Hannah was back on treatment yesterday, and last night her temperature went up to 102
So I phoned uh the clinic, and they said take her off the medication, the anti, antineoplastons
So I took her off
Her temperature came down
Then it went up again, and then we went back to the hospital today, back to the clinic, and they’re giving her a much smaller dose um and she’s on much smaller dose and she’s just come back, and she’s just exhausted
And she, I can see she’s just so close to breaking, which is cracking completely
(Christmas tree)
—————————————————————— (20:07)
——————————————————————
um and I’m just, got to the point where I can’t, I’m just, don’t know what to do
—————————————————————— Day Twenty (20:22)
——————————————————————
Well the last week has been very up and down
Um I have come off the dose
Gone back on it
Come
Come off it
back on
Yeah, and then come back off it again um, for several reasons: Fever, um shaking, chills, fever, and bacterial infection, um viral infection, every infection, um and then ended up with me having to go to E.R., the Emergency Room
Well at that point I was really fearing the worst
Mhmm
Because you’d a scan when we got out of here, right ?
Mhmm
and the scan definitely showed some tumor growth
Mhmm
um and I was thinking, what 2 and 1/2 weeks later from that
Yeah
That we were going back in the hospital
Mhmm
Because the tumor had gotten bigger
Yep
What has this whole experience like for you at the moment
Oh it’s just surreal
I just, I can’t explain it
It’s just surreal, to me
What, like its not happening to you ?
Yeah
You did actually said to me yesterday in the hospital, you said:
“I’m at my wits end”
“I don’t feel I can take anymore”
Yep
And what about today ? (laugh)
Well, I reckon I’ve been, I’ve just realized I’ve got to get on with it again
—————————————————————— Day Twenty-Two (21:53)
——————————————————————
So it’s, January the 1st, 2012, and we haven’t really got the,
We haven’t got off to a great start, have we ?
No
Why ?
Because I’ve had a fever
Uh you, when did you start, feeling feverish ?
In the middle of the night ?
Yeah. Yeah
And your temperature went up to 102
Yeah
What Dr. Burzynski thinks you, why you’re having a fever
you’ve either still got some flu-like symptoms or it could be the, the tumor actually breaking down
We’ve also got some problems with our pump this morning
(So what do you think ?)
Yeah, it’s not closing again
(And then you can also see the)
Uh, there it goes
(?)
But
It ain’t gonna stay that way
I don’t think it’s going to stay closed
Huh, what’d you think about that ?
(unintelligible)
(? get it fixed)
(and this looks like it’s ?)
(? fix ?)
Love you
—————————————————————— (23:09)
——————————————————————
The last time we saw you, you felt like you were completely drunk
Yeah
And you had double vision
Mhmm
So,then what, ended up, happening ?
Well, one of the nurses, kindly, pointed out
She said: “What have you taken ?”
That is where we recognized it was an anti-seizure drug, that I hadn’t taken before
And how do you feel now ?
I feel ok
I feel a but shaky
Yeah
I just have to (?) something to eat
Um, I’m just so tired
—————————————————————— (23:50)
——————————————————————
Hi, I’m Pete Cohen
Uh you might recognize me
Oh god
from morning television in the
Yeah
U.K.
Nobody recognizes you anymore
—————————————————————— (23:58)
——————————————————————
You should keep your fingers above the little
Ok
guard thing, yeah, and try to hold this
I’ve done it
as straight as you can
Ok. I’ve done it there Gary
and put some support
Yeah
on it
In there
and then you twist them down
Easier said than done (?)
I know
You can give it much more of a whack and you can u, use the other end as well
Ok
No, like this
(laughing)
Got no chance
Use the other end
(?) better
Ok. Thank you
(laughing)
You’re welcome
There you go
There you go (?)
There you go
—————————————————————— Day Thirty-Eight (24:33)
——————————————————————
I’ve never had to take care of anyone, the way I’m kind of having to take care of Hannah, and its just constant, and I get stressed around her, which isn’t fair, you know
She’s now got another temperature
She’s got a throat infection
Her temperatures up, uh and uh if it goes up over 102, it’s 101.8
If it goes up over 102 she’s got to come off of the treatment again um, oh, just, just feels like non-stop, you know
Cooking, and changing the bags
I’ve been into this, the clinic 3 times today
Taking her blood
Taking her back, get supplies
Take her back there
—————————————————————— (25:24)
——————————————————————
I’ve got a fever
It was over 102 last night
Yep. And
I’ve got antibiotics
Which you’ve been on for how many days ?
3 days
And we’re off the treatment
So, all in all
But you feel bad because you just want to be on the treatment, and just keep coming off
It’s just
How does that make you feel ?
Just, I don’t know, angry
Disappointed
Pointless
What you mean like
The while things pointless
Yeah
because you can’t stand
I just hope one day we can look back at this and laugh
Yeah
and just think: “We beat that”
because you couldn’t be doing anymore than what you’re doing
You know ?
You really couldn’t
Should really get a few of your friends to come over
Yeah
’cause you must be a bit bored of me
(laughing). No
C’mon, I’ve been really annoying
How grumpy was I yesterday ?
(laughing)
on a scale of 1 to 10 ?
(laughing)
I don’t know
C’mon
6
Really ?
Yeah
—————————————————————— Day Forty-Two (26:54)
——————————————————————
It’s 6 o’clock in the morning, and Hannah is lying here
Her temperature went up to the highest I’ve ever seen a temperature, on the thermometer
Where is the thermometer ?
Up to 104
I’m gonna just, I’m just trying to cool her down
I just phoned the doctor on-call and she said take some ibuprofen which Hannah has, and the result is ?
It’s come down a bit
Where is it ?
There it is
102.5
Well you’d think it’d come down
My god you’re so hot
I can’t believe how hot that is, thats got
Unbelievable
—————————————————————— (27:50)
—————————————————————— Hannah
Show me what’s going on
This all came up
When did you notice this ?
Yesterday afternoon, but its got worse since then
Yeah, lift up a bit higher if you can
Just zoom in on that
Yep
So it’s just one thing after another at the moment, isn’t it ?
Aye ?
Yes
Open your hands a little bit
Yeah (?)
And obviously we’re off, treatment at the moment
Mhmm
And we’re just waiting for who ?
Dr. Popper
What do you think he’s going to have to say ?
Mmm I don’t know
Ok
Ok, bye
—————————————————————— Day Forty-Four (28:35)
——————————————————————
Who um gave it a name ?
I sent a picture of it to Dr. B and he came back and said I think that’s what it is, and I looked into it and could see that that’s exactly what it is
Well does it bother you or does it just ?
No, it does
Like
Yeah
And itch ?
In some cases
Oh I’m sorry
Especially under the dressing
(?) Hannah had a fever 104 on Friday night
104 ?
103.9 I should, if I’m being absolutely, precise
So I think it’s brought this out
I think you can, you can say 104
—————————————————————— (28:50)
——————————————————————
So, we’re now going to have the MRI that we were going to have on Wednesday
We’re going to have it today
(laughing)
—————————————————————— 1/23/2012 MRI (29:29)
——————————————————————
This is one that was just done today ?
2012 Jan 23
Acq Tim: 12:13:09
955000
320 x 230
Today
2011 Dec 29
Acq Tim: 14:50:12
497500
256 x 192
Today
So the difference is that you can see there
How would you describe the differences between
and what you see here ?
Well 1st of all the size of the tumor is less, and um, if you see the actual, the solid enhancing part of the tumor
This is how it looks now
So from that you can see that it’s definitely, something definitely is going on
It’s changing
Yes
There’s no question about that
The size is less
The intensity of the enhancement is less
So wha, whe, whe, when you see something like this, wha, what does that show you ?
Well, certainly the, we see that the tumor’s most likely working, as the tumor is showing less enhancement, meaning less activity
Yeah
And the tumor’s by effect smaller
Yeah
So, ideally the next scan should be better
So we, we’re definitely going in the right direction
That’s, great
That’s for sure, and it’s brilliant that uh we’re going home on, on
On a high note
On a high note
Especially after our trials and tribulations
So
Certainly
—————————————————————— (30:47)
—————————————————————— Hannah’s tumor has started to shrink, and she doesn’t know
She doesn’t know that
So I’m going to go in the house
I think she’s still asleep, and give her the good news
(?)
Hannah
Can we go home ?
Can we go home ?
Guess what ?
We can go home ?
Yeah
Yea !
And guess what ?
Guess what
Your tumor started shrinking
Yea !
It shrunk by at least 10%
Let me just give you a kiss
Thank you
It’s ok
It’s ok
—————————————————————— (31:30)
——————————————————————
Hi Daddy
Hello, how are you ?
Yeah, I’m sorry for ringing so late
That’s alright
Um but I’m ringing with really, really good news
Good, that’s what I wanna hear
Go on you tell
No, you tell him
I don’t think I can
(Go on ?)
(? tell me ?)
Um
C’mon
my tumor
Yeah
has already shrunk by 10%
You’re f’n ‘ell man
F’
(?)
That is absolute, amazing
And considering I haven’t been on the treatment for
You’ve been on the dose, off the dose, and on it
F’n ‘ell
What
When you get started on the
F’n ‘ell man
(laughing)
I’m glad you phoned me
Yeah, you’re the 1st person I called, obviously
—————————————————————— (32:22)
——————————————————————
So what can you believe we’ve now been here for one month
Yes
And we’re going now
What are we going in to have done ?
Hopefully, be discharged
And are you pleased with the progress you’ve made ?
Yeah
It’s been up and down
Yeah it’s been up and down
(Trip, trip ?)
You look like a Hollywood star
(laughing)
Not many Hollywood stars have a backpack like this though
Yeah but it was also a week ago
I don’t know how long ago that was where you couldn’t even
What ?
What ?
In you go
In I go
Hi
We can’t stay away
(laugh)
We’re getting discharged now
Oh really ?
I think so
Well that’s wonderful
Yeah
Well yeah, oh we, we don’t wanna go
Right turn mate
Which floor ?
2nd floor
Oh, you’re still filming
Yeah, I just, you know, I mean, you know, why not ?
I haven’t filmed all of this
We’re going up
This was great when I was feeling really sick, ’cause it
Seems like we’ve spent a lifetime together, we used to go to the 4th floor
(laugh)
(Ok)
Hi
Ohhh
Hello
Hello
Hi
Hi
Hi everyone
Hello
Hello
Um Hannah and I are leaving on Friday
What’s going to be your overriding memory of us ?
No
What are we gonna do ?
Hey
Are you going to miss us ?
What are we gonna do ?
Of course
Peace and love
(Remind me, is Hannah ?)
Why don’t you stay
(?) who’s your favorite, because you remember we said we were gonna say
(laughing)
‘Cause, ’cause we can o, we can only take one of ’em home, and who’s it gonna be ?
(? the rash (?) dude)
(laughing)
Well you can only take one attribute from each person, what would it be ?
I’m going to take Ashley home
(laughing)
Really ? Why ?
Yes, I like that
Because she’s, because she has the same condition ?
Yep
(laughing)
Because she can look after
Very good
(laughing)
So Rick you were told I was a big shot
Yes, going to film everything so
(Who knows ?)
you have to watch out
So, c’mon, what, what point in your head did you think: “My god this guy’s an absolute idiot”
(laughing)
—————————————————————— Day Forty-Seven (34:55)
——————————————————————
This, this December 29
This is January 27
Here we have the tumor, visible previously
And we have now
Certainly, outside diameters have decreased
Mhmm
So to some extent, but also the, the intensity of the enhancement, has decreased
Mhmm
As you can see this was much brighter before, now is less
Which means that the tumor is decreasing and it’s uh losing its activity at the same time
Mhmm
Which is a good news
But, again, we are not at the remission
This is called Stable Disease
Stabilization
Mhmm
Probably next time we see this is shrinking more and this wide band is getting thinner, and thinner, and finally
Mhmm
it should disappear
So that’s what you should be looking for
Ok
—————————————————————— (35:43)
——————————————————————
There’s some hair on the camera
Well it’s not mine
It’s definitely not mine
Hmmm
Um
No
I’m gonna start
Ok
(laughing)
Go on then
Ok
So it’s June 2012, and we have been back for approximately 6 months from the, America, and generally it’s all going well
I’ve had about 3 scans since I have been back, and they’ve all looked fairly positive
I think they’ve looked more than positive but yeah, go on
Carry on
(laughing)
Um, yeah, so the tumor, well the enhancing part of the tumor is getting smaller
Basically there’s such a small little part left that I’m sure when you watch this you’ll be able to see some images so people can see your scans
December 7th 2011 scan
Yeah, mhmm
March 21st 2012 scan
and we know that if Hannah hadn’t had this treatment, with the type of tumor that she had
May 2nd 2012 scan
she might already be dead, or she probably wouldn’t be here
June 13th 2011 scan
Yeah
much longer
July 29 2012 scan
She is very much alive at this point in time
Yeah
And what’d you think about all this controversy, because the controversy around what we’re doing, and it’s just, just
I can’t believe it personally
I find it very, very hard the, the hatred and the skepticism, of, um, what Hannah’s doing
What, what, what’s that like for you ?
Well, as I, as I’ve always said along the way, you know, any of the skeptics, what would they do, if they were in my position ?
Would they want to die in 3 to 5 years or ?
Probably less than that
Uh (both)
And that’s a horrible thought
Um
Yeah, uh everyone has a, has a right to be sceptic and everyone has a right to their own opinion
Yeah, they do
Um, and, but the funny thing about people’s opinions is, opinions are often based on, what they’ve heard
Yeah
or what someone hasn’t done, whereas uh, we spent 7 weeks at the Burzynski Clinic uh
And we saw everything
We saw everything
We spent time with this man um, and I tell you from my, from, from, I think from both, I can maybe speak for you hey ?, but uh
(laughing)
he’s one of the most honest, kindest people
Yeah, he is
‘Cause I, I said to you, the other day, about making this film, and you said: “Even if I was going to die tomorrow, I would still want this to be made”
Yeah
You remember saying that ?
Yeah
What, what, why did you say that ?
Why ?
Because, it might give other people a shake up
Mhmm
Yeah
Yeah, because uh, yeah
Why did we make this ?
Well I made this because I thought it was a journey that was well worth documenting
(?)
and maybe could help other people, and maybe help people realize there are other options, apart from the conventional treatment for cancer, and to inspire people
I hope you’re inspired by Hannah’s story because she’s an amazing, she’s a, honestly she’s annoying sometimes
(laugh)
but not very often
So are you. Yep
She has such a desire to live, uh and to enjoy her life, and I think
I don’t know, if there’s anything else that we
Ok, that’s enough for now
Hannah’s most recent scan confirmed she has now had a complete response to the treatment
—————————————————————— (39:35)
—————————————————————— Special thanks to
Bacon, Lesley
Bradley, Jeremy and Irene
Cank, Elizabeth
Cohen, Judith and David
Gooden, Lindley
Jones, Dr. Hilary
Levitt, Chris and Gina
Martinez, Dr. Juan
Merola, Eric
Newman, Ofir
Norouzi, Minou
Ramsey, Anna
Rowkowski, Dr. Bob
White, Gemma
Hannah Bradley’s GP The Eagle radio station
—————————————————————— (39:40)
—————————————————————— Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski
and all the staff at the Burzynski Clinic
—————————————————————— (39:48)
—————————————————————— camera Pete Cohen
additional camera Lindley Gooden
editor Jamie Lowe
—————————————————————— (39:54)
—————————————————————— A film by Jamie Lowe & Pete Cohen
—————————————————————— (40:00)
——————————————————————
This film is dedicated to all the people who donated their time and energy to raise funds to save Hannah’s life
—————————————————————— (40:08)
——————————————————————
To follow the progress of Hannah’s recovery and find out more about the treatment she received please visit: http://www.teamhannah.com/blog
====================================== [15] – 2/17/2012 – Friday – REAL LIFE – ‘I’ll try anything to beat brain cancer’
—————————————————————— http://m.gulfnews.com/i-ll-try-anything-to-beat-brain-cancer-1.981203
====================================== Team Hannah Blog (2:46) 4/1/2013 – Posted by Hannah
======================================
(laughing) Don’t
‘Cause you’ll put this bit in
Promise ?
Yeah
Ok
(laugh) Ok, so, it’s April the 1st and it’s 2 years on since I had my operation and but ? obviously is out
So, I just wanted to (laugh)
Start again
Start again
Start again
Start again
Ok
Ok
I don’t believe you
I have
Start today again
(laugh) I don’t believe you
It didn’t go “beep beep”
Because it’s on silent
(laugh) Do you think that I’m an idiot ?
No
(laugh)
Ok
3 2 1 go
Hi there um it’s (laugh) the, the 1st of April and it’s 2 years on since I had my operation and I’m pleased to tell you that I’m obviously still here, and um that’s thanks to you guys and thanks to me I suppose from, for fighting so hard for my life
And what, and what have you been up to then ?
I have been up to um just resting a lot and uh making up new recipes uh
Your next book
Yeah, for my next book and
Yeah, that’s pretty much it
And when are you thinking you might be able to come off the treatment ?
June
End of May
June
I have a scan in a couple of weeks and we’ll update you after that
And what will that be like, coming off the treatment ?
Oh, it’ll be amazing
Yeah, amazing
So you won’t be walking around with
No
this fellow here ?
No
Ok
Is there anything else you’d like to say ?
Um, just love to you all
Oh
The wave
—————————————————————— Team Hannah Blog (3:34) 3/2/2013 – Posted by Hannah
======================================
Hi
This is the Team Hannah blog and it is the 3rd of March and Peter is actually filming me today
He’s not there, where he normally is
Yeah
Exactly
So I’m on my own
Flying solo
Um I’d just like to say how well I’m doing and my last
Ohhh went a bit northern then
My last scan um was mid-February and it showed no enhancing tumor
So that’s really good
Um I’ve just got um a really cystic area in my head
So it looks like they’ve predicted June me me to be off the treatment
So, fingers crossed for June
What will that be like to, to come off the treatment ?
Um, yeah, it will be
The treatment is so uh, restricting I would say
Yeah, it would be good to come off
And what else have you been up to ?
I have been (holding up Team Hannah Cookbook) selling lots of copies,
Yeah
and, and,
the other book a little bit
I know that you mentioned in the last blog, but just
What, what’s the book about ?
Well it’s low-carb recipes and I’ve
Been on the radio
I did a radio
promoting it and um it’s great for anyone who wants to cut out sugar
to lose weight and decrease their, and what, decrease their
Risk
Yeah, risk of getting disease
Yeah, ’cause we saw a doctor in America, Dr. Rowkowski
and he, and one of the things he said to you was you really need to cut sugar out of your diet
to
sugar is what he said
Yeah
Um, and you’ve been getting a lot of people that
trying your recipes and taking photos
Yeah
picking up
on Facebook on Pete’s favorite page
to cook something from the book
put them up on the
page as well
And um where can people find out about your book
Um just slide over to, to Hannah Cookbook and you will find it there
And your blog as well, yeah ?
Yeah
So, I think we’re done
I just want to say there’s an airplane going overhead
Thank you to everyone whose supported us
it seems a lot of, a lot of film
And why are you laughing
Pajamas
pajamas
I didn’t quite
yep
What are those
(laughing)
This bench has seen a lot of action
Yeah, it has
Video action, that is
(laughing)
And we’re very thankful to everyone
Yeah
Thank you, yeah, again
Yeah
We try and do one after next scan
Big wave, please
Bye bye
Bye
====================================== Sapphire Sings For Team Hannah
1/3/2012 – Posted (3:00)
====================================== (Last) Christmas, I gave you my heart
The very next day, you gave it away
This year, to save me from tears
I’ll give it to someone special
Once bitten, and twice shy
I keep my distance, but you catch my eye
Tell me baby, do you recognize me ?
Well, it’s been a year, it does not surprise me
Happy Christmas, I wrapped it up and sent it
With a note saying, “I love you”, I meant it
Now I know, what a fool I’ve been
But if you kiss me now, I know you’d fool me again
Last Christmas, I gave you my heart
The very next day, you
—————————————————————— (1:04)
——————————————————————
Ok Sapphire, all I have to say is “Thank you, thank you, thank you
You have compiled a CD, um, in aid of Help for Hannah, and you have had quite a lot of sales so far, and you have got a beautiful voice, and I’m sure you’ll go very, very, very far, but “Thank you”, and this is just a little “Thank you” for you, but obviously other people are going to hear it Thank you Love you
Bye
Did you
Sorry
Did she also, sing this yesterday, uh, somewhere?
Yeah, she sung it at Aldershot uh Football Club
Again, so Aldershot was playing football against another team
Plymouth, yeah
Plymouth
And she sang it for everyone ?
Yeah
And they raised some money for you ?
Yep
Yes, so this has been a big “Thank you” from both of us (laughing)
Let’s, let’s play out a bit more of that song
Ok
‘Cause we love this song
It’s off
Uh yep, it’s my favorite Christmas song
It’s the only Christmas song
(gave it away)
we can hear when it’s not Christmas This year, to save me from tears
I’ll give it to someone special
A crowded room, friends with tired eyes
I’m hiding from you, and your soul of ice
My god I thought you were someone to rely on
Me ? I guess I was a shoulder to cry on
A face on a lover with a fire in his heart
A man undercover but you tore me apart
Now I’ve found a real
Thank you so much
——————————————————————
An Update For You
10/21/2011 – Posted
A Message From Pete About Team Hannah (3:07)
A MESSAGE FROM PETE
Hi it’s Pete Cohen and I just wanted to share something with you
Uh in February this year my girlfriend was diagnosed with a, with a brain tumor and when this happened it really obviously rocked our world
You know, everything seemed to be ok
Everything was great in life
And then something happened, and everything changed
And I don’t know whether anything like that has ever happened to you
But these things happen don’t they
And when they happen they really test you
They really challenge you
They, it’s very easy
It made me question lots of things
It made me think to myself, well, you know, what, is life, really fair ?
You know, should this happen to such a young person ?
These things do happen
And it really puts us in a position where it questions what we have
What we have to deal with such difficult circumstances
And I’ve definitely found things in myself that I didn’t know wa was there, you know, resolve, compassion, determination just to, to keep going
And this is the thing human beings we all have this kind of, we all have something else don’t we
All, we all have something more than our stress, and our worry, and our anxiety
We have a our true nature I think can overcome so much, of what life throws at us
You know, obviously we can’t overcome, everything
But what I really wanted to share with you is something that I’ve been so taken aback with, and that’s the beautiful nature of human beings, because we’re trying to take my girlfriend over to America to be treated over there, and we’re having to raise a considerable sum of money, and we’ve actually had to ask people, for help
Now that’s something that’s a bit alien to me, is to ask people and say, you know, can you help me, can you help us
Maybe that’s an insecurity that I have
Bur we’ve asked for help and it’s been amazing to see people all over the world spread the world, donate some money
And I’ve been so touched by that
It’s so life affirming
It so, it gives us such great strength
Any my girlfriend and I have been
so touched by that
So what’s my point here ?
Recognize how important it is for all of us to support each other
Recognize how important it is to affirm each other
You know, that’s one of the most important human needs we all have;
affirmation, it’s the fact that, to take the time to recognize each other
Hello
How are you
I care for you
So, thank you so much for watching this, and if you want to help us out please just uh visit the web-site we’ve put together for Hannah
It’s just called Team Hannah . com, and on there you can see a little more about Hannah and what’s happened to her, and the treatment we’re looking for her to have, in America
So, I hope you all have a great day and please, take the time to be there for other people, to care for other people, because that’s what makes this world great
Thanks for watching
Bye, bye
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Hannah’s message [3]
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Ok
So what’s your name ?
I’m Hannah Bradley, and I’m 27 years old, and I come from North Hampton
And what happened to you ?
I had a seizure in middle of the night and my partner tells me I was rushed to hospital
That was in February 2011
And from there I had lots and lots of tests, and they decided that I had a brain tumor, and they were going to operate, and they successfully operated on the 1st of April, 2011, and they, the biopsy went off to be um checked
I found out that I had a grade 3 tumor
I then, under, underwent a, I had a 6 week course of radiotherapy, and that left me with no hair, and can’t remember what else (laugh)
And um that I went under another MRI scan 6 weeks after radiotherapy and we, that again wasn’t particularly good news, and we found out that there was still remnants of the tumor, and the future for me is very uncertain
So what, what are you looking for ?
What are you looking to do ?
Um, I, sorry
What do you want Hannah ?
What is it you’re looking for ?
Um, mainly I, um, I can’t
You just want to live, right ?
Yeah
So what are you asking for ?
What, what, what do you need ?
I um, I need people to raise money, for, uh, my treatment
I’m looking to going to America because there are things that they can offer me here on the NHS or locally (?) is very, very limited, and there’s a doctor in Houston, and he’s able to help
So you want some help in raising some money, yeah ?
Yeah, it’s completely out of our reach to raise that much money, and it’s, I’d like help to raise the money
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9/17/2012
Monday, 17 September 2012 07:23 | Written by Administrator
Hannah Bradley
Hannah’s amazing story, fighting and winning over her Brain tumor (Anaplastic Astrocytoma) is available on her support site
Team Hannah
There are more videos by Pete and Hannah, documenting her fight and the Burzynski Clinic
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[1] – September 28, 2013 “The Skeptics™” Burzynski discussion: By Bob Blaskiewicz – 2:19:51
====================================== BB – Bob Blaskiewicz
—————————————————————— DJT – Didymus Judas Thomas
====================================== 0:47:00
—————————————————————— BB – “Ummm, o-kay”
“Uh, I want to turn this over to the people who are watching”
“Um, I want to give them a a chance to address you as well”
“Uhmmm, hi everyone”
—————————————————————— 0:48:00
—————————————————————— 0:53:00
—————————————————————— BB – “A every time that I and and and and, and David (James @StortSkeptic the Skeptic Canary) points this out, that um, you you know you’re not going to speculate about the the FDA but then at every turn you’re invoking the FDA as being obstructionist“
—————————————————————— 0:54:02
—————————————————————— BB – “I, I just find that to be contradictory and and self-defeating“
====================================== DJT – Bob, exactly where did I invoke “the FDA as being obstructionist” ?
====================================== 1:02:00
—————————————————————— BB – “Um, it’s it’s it’s not the FDA’s, but you understand it’s not the FDA’s job to tell someone that their drug doesn’t work“
—————————————————————— 1:03:00
—————————————————————— BB – “it’s it’s it’s up to Burzynski“
“It’s up to Burzynski to show that his drug does work”
“And it’s always been his burden of proof“
“He’s the one that’s been claiming this miracle cancer cure, forever”
====================================== DJT – Bob, Burzynski showed and proved what he needed to prove to the FDA in order to do phase 2 clinical trials, 9/3/2004 – FDA granted “orphan drug designation” (“ODD”) for Antineoplastons (A10 & AS2-1 Antineoplaston) for treatment of patients with brain stem glioma, .10/30/2008 – FDA granted “orphan drug designation” (“ODD”) for Antineoplastons (A10 and AS2-1 Antineoplaston) for treatment of gliomas, and FDA approved phase 3 [1-2]
Oh, and Bob, exactly when did Burzynski 1st claim “this miracle cancer cure” ?
====================================== 1:04:02
—————————————————————— BB – “Um, that we’d love to see, however we can’t see, however we can’t see it because of proti protri proprietary uh protections that the FDA is giving to Burzynski, right ?”
“They’re not sharing his trial designs because they are his trial designs, right ?”
“That the makeup of his drug that he’s distributing are his, uh design, and his intellectual property“
“So the FDA is protecting him, uh from outside scrutiny“
====================================== DJT – Bob, you make it sound like it’s part of some grand “conspiracy” between Burzynski and the FDA to keep information from “The Skeptics™” [3]
——————————————————————
21CFR601
Subpart F–Confidentiality of Information
Sec. 601.50
Confidentiality of data and information in an investigational new drug notice for a biological product
(a) The existence of an IND notice for a biological product will not be disclosed by the Food and Drug Administration unless it has previously been publicly disclosed or acknowledged
====================================== BB – “While you may imagine that that, that that the FDA is is somehow antagonistic toward him“
“They’ve given him every opportunity, over 60 opportunities to prove himself worth uh their confidence and hasn’t“
====================================== DJT – Bob, that certainly explains the 9/3/2004 and .10/30/2008 ODD’s and phase 3 clinical trial approvals by the FDA – NOT [1-2]
====================================== 1:05:00
—————————————————————— 1:42:00
—————————————————————— BB – “I don’t, the thing is though that, that that’s a inver, shifting the burden of proof off of Burzynski”
“Burzynski has to prove them wrong, has to prove him right”
“The FDA is not there to say this doesn’t work”
====================================== DJT – Bob, who initiated and put into place the clinical trial hold ?
Burzynski ?
FDA ?
Both ?
====================================== 1:43:30
—————————————————————— BB – “So, I mean, honestly, um, saying “Well, when the F, FDA tells you that it doesn’t work, the FDA’s never gonna say that because that’s not their job“
—————————————————————— 1:44:00
—————————————————————— BB – “That’s not an option, because they’re never gonna do it“
“They relinquish, a lot of authority, over to Burzynski, and his Institutional Review Board, which, I would mention, has failed 3 reviews in a row” ====================================== Bob, where are the “final reports” for those “3 reviews” ? ====================================== BB – “Right ?”
“It is Burzynski’s job to be convincing”
“It is not our uh, uh, it it it he hasn’t produced in decades“
“In decades”
“In hundreds and hundreds of patients, who’ve payed to be on this”
“Hell, we’d we’d we’d like a prelim, well when you’re talking about something that is so difficult as brainstem glioma, that type of thing gets, really does in the publishing stream get fast-tracked there”
====================================== DJT – Bob, Burzynski has provided numerous phase 2 clinical trial preliminary reports, which our #fave oncologist has chosen to ignore [4]
====================================== BB – “they test it”
“Yeah, and they they they want uh, that was evidence of fast-tracking is what, that rejection was uh e was very quickly“
====================================== DJT – Bob, have you checked The Lancet Oncology [5] to see what was so much more important than Burzynski’s “phase 2 clinical trial Progression-Free Survival (PFS) and Overall Survival (OS) re patients 8 – 16 years after diagnosis, results” [6] and the Japanese antineoplaston study ? [7]
====================================== BB – “So, how long will it be before Burzynski doesn’t publish, that you decide that uh perhaps he’s he‘s, doesn’t have the goods ?“
“Um, so, uh, uh again, the FDA is not the arbiter of this“
“It’s ultimately Burzynski”
“You’ve been speculating about what the FDA’s motivation are like crazy”
“Why not speculate about Burzynski a little bit”
====================================== DJT – Well, how have I been speculating ?
====================================== 1:46:00
—————————————————————— BB – “Well actually I’m not even asking you to speculate about Burzynski, I’m only asking you to tell me, how long would it take, uh how, for him to go unpublished like this, um, for this long, before you would doubt it ?” ====================================== DJT – Note how, above, without proving it, Bob claimed “at every turn you’re invoking the FDA as being obstructionist”, and now, directly above, again, without proving it, Bob claims “You’ve been speculating about what the FDA’s motivation are like crazy” —————————————————————— DJT – what the journals keep saying, in response
====================================== BB – “What ?”
====================================== DJT – You know, are they going to give The Lancet response, like they did in 2 hours and such, saying, “Well, we think your message would be best heard elsewhere,”or they gonna gonna give The Lancet response of, “Well, we don’t have room in our publication this time, well, because we’re full up, so, try and pick another place”?
====================================== BB – “But these but but but that doesn’t have any bearing on“
“That doesn’t”
“Oh I’m not asking you how long, how long, would it take you for you to start doubting whether or not he has the goods ?“
“How long would it take ?”
“It’s a it’s a it’s a question that should be answered by a number uh uh months ?“
“Years ?”
“How long ?”
“It’s been 15 years already”
====================================== DJT – Well, you like to jump up and down with the “15 year” quote, but then again I always get back to, Hey, it’s when, when the report, when the clinical trial is done
—————————————————————— 1:47:06
—————————————————————— DJT – Not that he’s been practicing medicine medicine for 36 years, or whatever, it’s when the clin, clinical trial was done
====================================== BB – “I could push it back to 36 years”
“He hasn’t shown that it works for 36 years”
“I can do that”
“I was being nice” ====================================== DJT – Note how Bob acts like he’s been hit with “The Stupid Stick”
If he wants to go back “36 years”, I can refer back to 1991 (11/15/1991) – Michael J. Hawkins, M.D., Chief, Investigational Drug Branch, Department of Health &Human Services (HHS), Public Health Service, National Institutes of Health (NIH), National Cancer Institute (NCI), sent a 1 page Memorandum Re:
Antineoplaston to Decision Network, which advised, in part:
“It was the opinion of the site visit team that antitumor activity was documented in this best case series and that the conduct of Phase II trials was indicated to determine the response rate”[8] —————————————————————— DJT – The FDA A believes there is evidence of efficacy
====================================== BB – “Perhaps based on bad phase 2”
====================================== DJT – Well, we don’t know that
We don’t have the Freedom of Information Act information —————————————————————— DJT – Remember, Bob is the one who told me during the 9/28/2013 Google+ Burzynski Discussion Hangout:
“You’re you’re you’re assuming”
“You’re you’re you’re assuming that”
“You’re assuming that”
“Um, I’m not assuming that”
“There is a correct answer here”
“You don’t know”
“You don’t know”
“You need to look into it”
“Alright ?”
“Before you dismiss it you have to look into it”
“Everytime somebody throws uh uh something to me, I have to look into it”
“That’s just, it’s my responsibility as a reader”
“T t and what I would honestly expect and hope, is that you would be honest about this, to yourself, and and and that’s the thing we don’t, we often don’t realize that we’re not being honest with ourself“
“I try to fight against it, constantly”
Bob just ASSUMED that the FDA approved phase 3 clinical trials for Burzynski “Perhaps based on bad phase 2”, but tells me NOT to ASSUME ? ====================================== BB – “He withdrew”
“He withdrew the the phase 3 clinical trial”
“I that before recruiting,
although I’ve seen lots of people say they were on a phase 3 clinical trial“
“I wonder how that happened”
====================================== DJT – Well, we know what happened in the movie because Eric particularly covered that when they tried to get what, what, was it 200 or 300 something institutions to take on a phase 3, and they refused
====================================== 1:48:01
—————————————————————— BB – “Uh did do do you think that if they thought that he was a real doctor that they all would have refused like that ?“
====================================== DJT – Well, Eric gave the reasons that they said they would not take a particular uh phase 3
And so using that excuse that you you just gave there, I’m not even gonna buy that one, because that’s not one of the reasons —————————————————————— Note how Bob pulls out the old “if they thought that he was a real doctor” line ?
Is Bob now claiming that Burzynski is NOT even a “real doctor” ? ====================================== BB – “He’s changed things”
====================================== DJT – Eric said they gave
====================================== BB – “That The Lancet is a top-tier journal like New England Journal of Medicine“
“It’s basically be, besieged by uh 100′s of people submitting their, their, their reports”
“Um, it’s just, you know, let’s say he, someone has such a thin publishing record as Burzynski does, do you think that it’s likely that he will ever get in a top-tier journal ?“
“What about the the Public Library of Science?”
“It’s not the only journal there”
“What about BMC Cancer ?”
“There’s lots of places that he can go”
====================================== DJT – We’ll I’m
====================================== BB – “Um, and he doesn’t seem to to have evailed himself of that, as far as I can tell“
“And I would know because he’d get rejected, or he’d be crowing, you know”
—————————————————————— 1:49:02
—————————————————————— BB – “Either way, he’s gonna tell us what happens”
“He told us what happened with The Lancet, you know”
“I don’t have any evidence that suggests to me that he’s even trying” ====================================== Note how Bob refers to Burzynski’s numerous publications as “such a thin publishing record”
Bob, do I need to count all of these for you ? [9] —————————————————————— DJT – Well, I’m, I’m sure that they’re going to keep you appraised just like they have in the past, just like Eric has done in the past
So
I mean, we’ll see what happens with the Japanese study [7]
====================================== BB – “So let’s go back to this”
“How long will it take ?”
“How long will it take before you, the Japanese study’s interesting too because we should be able to find that in the Japanese science databases, and we can find, we can’t find it at all“
“We can’t find it anywhere”
“And, and those are in English, so it’s not a language problem“
“We can’t find that anywhere”
“We’ve asked”
“We asked Rick Schiff, for, for that study”
“And, and it hasn’t come to us“
“He is now I believe on the Board of Directors, over there”
—————————————————————— 1:50:00
—————————————————————— BB – “He should have access to this”
“We can’t get it”
====================================== Bob, did you ask:
1. Annals of Oncology 2010;21:viii221 ?
2. European Society for Medical Oncology (ESMO), Colorectal cancer, Abstract: 3558, May 17, 2010 ?
3. Colorectal Cancer Association of Canada, COLORECTAL CANCER RESEARCH, Month Ending June 19, 2009
11. Antineoplaston Therapy Doubles 5-Year Survival Rate Following Curative Resection of Hepatic Mets (May 27/09) pg. 5 of 20 ?
4. Kurume University School of Medicine (Japan) Department of Surgery ?
5. Hideaki Tsuda ? [7]
====================================== BB – “How how long will it take before you recognize that, nothing is forthcoming ?”
“How long would that take ?”
====================================== DJT – Well that’s like me asking “How long is it going to take for y’all’s, y’all‘s Skeptics to respond to my questions ?”
Because y’all haven’t been forthcoming
====================================== BB – “Well, I mean, were talking about a blog here“
“We’re talking about life”
“No, we’re talking about a blogger’s feelings in that case“
“In in this case we’re talking about, 1,000′s of patients, over the course of of of generations, you know”
“This is important stuff”
“This is not eh eh equating what’s happening to to patients with what’s happening to you is is completely off-kilter as far as I can tell“
“It’s nothing”
“It’s nothing like you not getting to say something on my web-site”
“You know”
“This is they they have thrown in with Burzynski, and they’ve trusted him, and he’s produced nothing“
“Nothing of substance”
—————————————————————— 1:51:00
—————————————————————— BB – “Nothing that that has made all of that um, uh, n nothing th th th that uh his peers would take seriously”
“The other thing that that that strikes me now is that, you know, you you you you keep saying that, well Eric is going to to share things with you”
“Does it ever concern you eh uh eh occur to you that Eric might not be reliable ?” ====================================== Bob, do you want to have a contest to determine which of you is more “reliable” ? ====================================== DJT – Well, he gave you The Lancet information and he posted the e-mail in the movie, and Josephine Jones posted a copy of it [6]
====================================== BB – “He then, and then he”
“And then he he, you know, the the the the dialogue that sprung up around that was, well see, he’s never going to get to get published”
“Well you’re just setting yourself up for wish fulfillment”
“You want him to be, persecuted, so you are ecstatic when he doesn’t get to publish, which is unfortunate for all the cancer patients, who really thought that one day, all the studies were going to be published”
—————————————————————— 1:52:00
====================================== DJT – Well, y’all are free to, you know, claim that all you want, because I don’t always agree with Eric, and uh, he’s free to express his opinion
====================================== BB – “Where has Eric been wrong ?”
====================================== DJT – Well I don’t necessarily believe, what Eric would say about, you know, The Lancet that refused to publish the 2nd one, for the reasons he stated, and which y’all have commented on, including Gorski
You know, I don’t necessarily agree with that
I am more agreeable to y’all, saying that, you know, they’re busy, they’ve got other things to do, but I’m kind of still laughing at their 1st response which he showed in the movie about how they felt about, you know his results would be better in some other publication
I thought that was kind of a ridiculous response to give someone
====================================== BB – “It’s it’s it’s it’s a form letter“
“You know”
“They’re just saying, “No thanks””
““Thanks, but no thanks” is what they were saying, in the most generic way possible”
“Like I said, they’re besieged by researchers trying to publish“
—————————————————————— 1:53:05
====================================== DJT – Well you would think that if its a form letter they would use the same form that they used the 2nd time
You know, they didn’t use the same wording that they used the 1st time
I would have think that, you know, their 2nd comment
====================================== BB – “So, so, possibly”
“So possibly what you are saying is that they in fact have read it, and after having read it they’ve rejected it”
“Is that what you’re saying ?”
“Because that’s what peer-review is”
====================================== DJT – Nah, I’m not saying that they did that all
I’m just sayin’, you know, that they gave, 2 different responses, and I would think that the 2nd one they gave
====================================== BB – “Do you know it was the same editor, that it came from the same desk ?”
“You can’t make that assumption that that the form letter will be the same form letter every time”
“I mean you just can’t“
“I mean in in some ways we have a lot of non-information that you’re filling in, with what you expect, as as opposed to what’s actually really there, and I I I just think you’re putting too much uh stock in one uh, uh, in in in in this uh the publication kerfuffle“
—————————————————————— 1:54:16
—————————————————————— BB – “Um”
====================================== DJT – Well I find it funny, something along the lines of, you know, “We believe your message would be received better elsewhere, you know
I don’t see that as a normal response, a scientific publication would send to someone trying to publish something
I mean, to me that sounds, like, if you’re doing that, and you’re The Lancet Oncology, maybe you need to set some different procedures in place, ‘cuz you would think that with such a great scientific peer-reviewed magazine, that they would have structured things in as far as how they do their operations
====================================== BB – “Well, not necessarily“
“I’ve been in any # of professional groups where the organization is just not optimal, and publications certainly th there are all sorts of pressures from all sorts of different places”
—————————————————————— 1:55:08
—————————————————————— BB – “I I have no problems whatsoever with seeing that this might not be completely uh um uh streamlining uniform processes as possible“
“The fact that it’s not uniform, doesn’t have anything to do with Burzynski not publishing, not producing good data”
“Not just going to a, you know, god, even if, even if, let’s put it this way, even if he went to a pay to play type publication where you have to pay in order to get your manuscript accepted; and he has the money to do this, it wouldn’t take that much, and he were to put out a good protocol, and he were to show us his data, and he would make his, his his stuff accessible to us, then we could validate it, then we could look at it and say, “Yeah, this is good,” or “No, this is the problem, you have to go back and you have to fix this””
“Right ?”
“So we really, every time we talk about the letter that he got, yeah that doesn’t have much to do with anything, really”
—————————————————————— 1:56:02
—————————————————————— BB – “We wanna see the frickin’ data”
“And if he had a cure for some cancers that otherwise don’t have reliable treatments, he has an obligation to get that out there anyway he can“
“And if if peer-review doesn’t, you know, play a, if peer-review can’t do it, you know, isn’t fast enough for him, then he should take it to the web, and he should send copies out to every pediatric, uh, you know, oncologist that there is“
“That’s the way to do it”
====================================== DJT – Well, I’m sure, I’m sure Gorski would have a comment about that, as he’s commented previously about how he thinks uh Burzynskishould publish
====================================== 1:57:10
—————————————————————— BB – “It’s the, it’s the data itself“
“If if Burzynski is is, is confident in his data, he will put it out there“
“Right ?”
“One way or the other”
====================================== DJT – Like I said before
Like I said before on my blog, you know, even if Burzynski publishes his phase 2 information, Gorski can just jump up and down and say, “Well, that just shows evidence of efficacy, you know, it’s not phase 3, so it doesn’t really prove it”
—————————————————————— 1:58:04
—————————————————————— DJT – So then he can go on, you know, for however many years he wants to
====================================== 2:01:00
—————————————————————— BB – “Um, almost no treatment goes out without trials“
“Massive amounts of data are required” ====================================== Bob, do you think that’s the 2.5 million pages of clinical trial data that Fabio said Burzynski sent to the FDA ? [10] ====================================== 2:02:00
—————————————————————— BB – “Uh, in in in that sense, you know, uh all the the the, you know, kind of back-peddling and and and trying to defend him is is going to, not going to help his case at all“
====================================== Bob, exactly where did I exhibit any “kind of back-peddling” ?
====================================== 2:03:03
——————————————————————
BB – “You are, honestly as far as I can tell you are doing the um, you know, you’re you’re ah throwing up uh, uh, uh, you’re giving me another uh invisible dragon in the garage, um”
====================================== DJT – Well y’all, y’all can call things what y’all want
I mean, y’all can give these, fallacy arguments and all that garbage that y’all like, because that’s what y’all like to talk about instead of dealing with the issues
I mean, Gorski doesn’t want to deal with the issues
====================================== 2:04:11
—————————————————————— BB – “Okay, so”
“What you’re telling me is that you trust the FDA to to be able to tell you when he’s not doing, good science, but also that you don’t trust the FDA”
“Do you see an inherent conflict there ?”
====================================== DJT – How did I say I, I didn’t trust them ?
====================================== BB – “Well, when I, whenever I would ask about, like, why would these trials aren’t happening uh and, you know, you say well the the FDA’s arranged it“
“The FDA’s in control”
“They sign off on these things”
“But they’re they’re they’re they’re at the same that they’re, they’re trustworthy they’re also not trustworthy depending on what you need for the particular argument at the time“
—————————————————————— 2:05:12
—————————————————————— BB – “You’re suggesting that they’re untrustworthy”
====================================== DJT – No, I’m just sayin’ that I’ve raised questions and none of The Skeptics wanna to uh talk about ‘em [11]
====================================== BB – “Do you know that the FDA pulled out of the prosecution ?”
“Did you know that the FDA pulled out of the prosecution um of his criminal case, because they were backing a researcher ?” ====================================== Bob, would that “researcher” be Dvorit D. Samid, who was in Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business (Part I) ? —————————————————————— DJT – Well, we know a lot stuff they did, but that still doesn’t impress me that they pulled out of the prosecution
I mean
====================================== BB – “Yeah, the the the it wasn’t the FDA who was pressing charges, it was a Federal prosecutor“
====================================== DJT – Right
====================================== BB – “Right”
“And and, they declined to provide information that the prosecution needed“
“That’s important”
“That that that’s really important“
“That he has been given the benefit of the doubt, and he has come up wanting, for decades now”
====================================== DJT – Well I find it interesting a lot of this uh, a lot of these letters that were provided between, you know, the government and Burzynski, when the uh phase 2 study was going on, at the behest of the NCI
You know, anybody who reads that stuff knows, that when you just ignore the person that’s been doing, do treating their patients for 20 something years, or close to 20 years, and you change the protocol without his approval, and you don’t use the drugs in the manner that he knows works
====================================== 2:10:15
—————————————————————— BB – “One of the interesting things about Doubting Thomas that I think you should definitely consider for yourself, is that at some point, when faced with the real opportunity to prove or disprove his assertions, he doubted himself”
“And that’s important”
“And that’s where you’re falling short in the analogy”
====================================== DJT – Well, I think The Skeptics, Skeptics are falling short because, you know, they don’t own up to
====================================== BB – “I’ve laid out exactly what it would take for me to turn on a fucking dime”
“I have, I have made it abundantly clear what I need“
“Gorski has made it abundantly clear”
“Everybody else, Guy, and David, and Josephine Jones, uh, the Morgans, all of them have made it abundantly clear, what it would take to change our minds, and you’ve never done that”
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—————————————————————— BB – “And even in this, this was an opportunity to do that“
“To come up with a basis for understanding, where it’s like, you know what, If we can show this, you know, if we can show a this guy, that, that, there, that his standards are not being met, then, you know, we could possibly have some sort of ongoing dialogue after this”
====================================== DJT – So I can say that since the Mayo Clinic (Correction: M.D. Anderson) finished their study in 2006, and it took them until 2013, to actually publish it, then I can say, well, Burzynski finished his in 2009, which was 3 years later, which would give Burzynski until 2016
====================================== BB – “Why wasn’t that study”
====================================== DJT – for me to make up my mind (laughing)
====================================== BB – “Why wasn’t that, that that that, still . . again, it it doesn’t seem really to to approach the the the, main question here“
“You know, um . . what are the standards that you have that it isn’t, what are your standards to show that it isn’t efficacious ?“
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====================================== DJT – Well I can say, well I’m going to have to wait, the same amount of time I had to wait for Mayo (Correction: M.D. Anderson) to publish their study; which was from 2006 to 2013
====================================== BB – “Why was the Mayo”
“Why was the Mayo (Correction: M.D. Anderson) study delayed ?” ====================================== Note how Bob ASSUMES that the publishing of the final results of the M.D. Anderson study were delayed —————————————————————— DJT – How do you know it was delayed ?
====================================== BB – “Well you said you had so many years before you finish it and go in”
====================================== DJT – I mean, has anybody
====================================== BB – “Why, why did it take so long ?“
====================================== DJT – done a review of when a clinical trial is studied, and completed, and how long it took the people to publish it ?
You know
If they could point to me a study that’s done that, and say, well here’s the high end, here’s the low end of the spectrum, here’s the middle
====================================== BB – “I have something for you, okay ?”
“Send me that”
“Could you send me that study the way that it was published because um, just just send me the final study, um, to my e-mail address”
====================================== DJT – Sure
====================================== BB – “Um, because, I can ask that question of those researchers, why was this study in this time, and what happened in-between”
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—————————————————————— BB – “Why did it take so long for it, for it to come out”
====================================== DJT – Sure, but that’s not gonna, you know like, answer an overall question of, you know, somebody did a comparative study of all clinical trials, and, when they were finished, and at, and when the study was actually published afterwards
You know, that’s only gonna be one, particular clinical study
====================================== BB – “Right”
“Um, but it it would, perhaps, answer the question; because you’re using it as an example on the basis of which to dismiss criticism, whether or not, uh, it is the standard, and therefor you’re allowed to accept that Burzynski hasn’t published until 2016, or, um, it’s an anomaly, which is also a possibility, that most stuff comes out more quickly“
====================================== DJT – Well, we know that the Declaration of Helsinki doesn’t even give a standard saying, “You must publish within x amount of years,” you know ?
So, I’ve yet to find a Skeptic who posted something that said, “Here are the standards, published here”
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—————————————————————— BB – “I I, yeah, the other thing that David James points out is you know, why 2016 when he’s had 36 years already ?“
====================================== DJT – Again, we get back to, when the clinical trial is finished, not when Burzynski started
====================================== BB – “Treating people”
====================================== DJT – I mean, you would expect to find a results to be published after, the final results are in
====================================== BB – “You would expect the Burzynski Patient Group to be a lot bigger after 36 years, and in fact is
====================================== DJT – You would expect some people would want to have confidentiality, and maybe not want to be included
====================================== BB – “So, if you’re unsure about this stuff, if you’re unsure about the the time to publication, why are you defending it so hard, other than saying, “I don’t know, I really need to”
====================================== DJT – Why am I unsure ?
====================================== BB – “Uh about the
====================================== DJT – (laughing) I just gave you an example
====================================== BB – “The reasons, the reasons for which that he’s, no, why are you defending him so hard, when you’re unsure ?
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====================================== DJT – Oh, who said I was unsure ?
I just gave you an example
—————————————————————— Note how Bob ASSUMES that I’m “unsure” when I had the same answer since 0:32:07 [12]
