“The Skeptics™” Burzynski Bias, Censorship, Lies, and Alibi’s: September 28, 2013 “The Skeptics™” Burzynski discussion: By Bob Blaskiewicz – 2:19:51

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BB – Bob Blaskiewicz
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BB“Well we do have for for for for one thing, um, I guess to understand is that we are uh motivated by um uh a respect
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Bob, would that include “a respect” for “facts” ?

Because you seem to be the Hillary Clinton of “The Skeptics™”, in that you want people to think of the “children”, yet you also seem to want people to ignore that your “facts” might be “factually-challenged” and tainted by your “bias”
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BB“this is the one thing that that all Skeptics I think um are uh respect critical thinking
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Bob, I am very “critical” in my “thinking” of “The Skeptics™” who indicate that they supposedly want to “debate” and who claim that they will “respond on my blog” because “it only seems fair”, but then do NOT respond

Is THAT the kind of “critical thinking” you are referring to ? [1]
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BB“um, and um respect scientific uh a we we’re mostly scientific enthusiasts
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Bob, would that include Trollolo Mark McAndrew (@MarkMcan) who exhibited what type of “scientific enthusiasts” “The Skeptics™” attract, when he Trollolo’d all over “The Telegraph” ? [2]
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BB“but for the most part we all respect scientific consensus
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Bob, does that include the “scientific consensus” reached by the doctors who decided that Burzynski’s antineoplastons exhibited “antitumor activity” ? [3]
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BB“and we respect scientific method
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Bob, then why does your “The Other Burzynski Patient Group” (TOBPG) blog NOT “respect the scientific method” by indicating if those patients had no prior treatment, biopsy only, surgery, chemotherapy, radiation, or some other treatment, and how long they were on any therapy, if any ?
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BB – “and have an enthusiasm for living in the real world”
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Bob, exactly what “world” are you living in that you adopt lying and deception as part of your agenda regarding Burzynski ?
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BB – “this is something that like all of us us are about”
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1:26:00
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Bob, do you mean what I wrote about above?
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REFERENCES:
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[1] – September 28, 2013 “The Skeptics™” Burzynski discussion: By Bob Blaskiewicz – 2:19:51
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/september-28-2013-the-skeptics-burzynski-discussion-by-bob-blaskiewicz-21951/
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[2] – “The Skeptics™” Mark McAndrew is Trollolo:
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/the-skeptics-mark-mcandrew-is-trollolo/
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[3] – Critiquing: National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) CancerNet “fact sheet”
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/09/19/critiquing-national-cancer-institute-nci-at-the-national-institutes-of-health-nih-cancernet/
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A Critical Analysis of Wikipedia’s “Failure to Communicate”

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[1] – 1st 7 comments by
“The Skeptics™”

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34 – # of “The Skeptics™”
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29 – # Questioning “The Skeptics™”
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192 comments – “The Skeptics™”
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44 – Lynne Batik
31 – Fenwicke Bootzin (Sizzling Bacon Scent) Sizzling Burnt Bacon Scent
13 – Robert (Bobby) Blaskiewicz (@rjblaskiewicz)
13 – Adam Jacobs (@DianthusMed)
12 – Jen Abe
10 – David H. Gorski (@gorskon @oracknows @ScienceBasedMed)
7 – Edward Jenner
6 – Guy Chapman (@SkepticGuy)
6 – Fred Hamlet
6 – Rene F. Najera
6 – Darren Woodward (Sebastian Armstrong @spikesandspokes on Twitter)
4 – Angela Campagna
4 – Val Perry Rendel
3 – Amy Hochberg Beaton
3 – Susan Scotvold Goodstein
3 – Karl Mamer
2 – Scott Hurst
2 – Laura Calise Neimeyer
2 – Tsu Dho Nimh
1 – Catherina Becker
1 – Vicky Forster
1 – Jan Gosau
1 – David James (@StortSkeptic)
1 – Terry D. Johnson
1 – Jen Keane
1 – Adam Levenstein
1 – Keir Liddle (@endless_psych)
1 – Matthew Miller
1 – Paul Morgan (@DrPaulMorgan)
1 – Richard Murray
1 – Scott Myers
1 – Andy Roseborrough
1 – Footy Stuff
1 – Tom Steinberg

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239 comments – Questioning “The Skeptics™”
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112 – Didymus Thomas *
71 – Robert Davis
15 – Jon Barratt
13 – Eric Merola
7 – Bruce Scherzer
4 – Ben Hymas
2 – Bill Doucette
2 – Teresa Kennett
2 – Krassi Kostova
2 – Jessica Ressel-Doeden
2 – Jennifer Woods
1 – Angela Campagna
1 – Jessica Guillory Garza
1 – Melissa Gilbert
1 – Russell David Humphress
1 – Karl Jobst
1 – Anya Matkowski
1 – Susanne McAllister
1 – Terri Miller
1 – Mark Mord
1 – Shannon E. Peters
1 – Chris Rodriguez
1 – Pat Rozek
1 – Cindy Samora
1 – Ric Schiff
1 – Gary Susie
1 – Kevin Thurston
1 – Laura Vincent
1 – Susan Wassenhove
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* Requesting “The Skeptics™” reply when they did NOT, pointing out where they did NOT provide any citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s) to support their claims
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38 comments with links – “The Skeptics™”
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19 – Lynne Batik
5 – Fenwicke Bootzin (Sizzling Bacon Scent) Sizzling Burnt Bacon Scent
5 – Adam Jacobs (@DianthusMed)
3 – David H. Gorski (@gorskon @oracknows @ScienceBasedMed)
2 – Fred Hamlet
2 – Rene F. Najera
1 – Robert (Bobby) Blaskiewicz (@rjblaskiewicz)
1 – Andy Roseborrough

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131 comments with links – Questioning “The Skeptics™”
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104 – Didymus Thomas *
18 – Robert Davis
8 – Eric Merola
1 – Paul Battista
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* One of “The Skeptics™” made the mistake of commenting that Burzynski, had NOT published any publications
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“The Skeptics™” LIES
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[2] – 3/5/2013 – Adam Jacobs

” … did you know that he’s recently removed all mention of antineoplastons from his website … “
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[3] – 3/5/2013 – William M. London

” … Burzynski’s anti-cancer fantasies … “
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[4] – 3/5/2013 – Paul Morgan

“As for his “gene-targeted” therapy, firstly Burzynski is simply using a cocktail of chemotherapy drugs in a random and haphazard manner with no thoughts as to the potential interactions and unpredictable toxicity of his mix of chemotherapy drugs”

“As for being “gene-targeted”, his approach could be described as “gene-targeted” in the same way as the military regard carpet bombing …”
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“The Skeptics™” who got it WRONG
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3/5/2013 – Rene F. Najera

“I predict this poll and subsequent comments will be taken down by the end of the day”
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This “Skeptics™” must have had
CPT12
confused with “The Skeptics™” like Robert (Bobby) Blaskiewicz (@rjblaskiewicz), David H. Gorski (@gorskon @oracknows @ScienceBasedMed), Adam Jacobs (@DianthusMed), and Keir Liddle (@endless_psych), who block people on their blogs
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“The Skeptics™” who did NOT provide any citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s) to support their claims
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3/6/2013 – Lynne Batik

“Dr. B is a scam artist who has found a few people he can claim to have cured, and uses those to sucker in far more people who he will bankrupt without curing”
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3/4/2013 – Amy Hochberg Beaton

“I think Burzynski has proved multiple times over that his $*&% doesn’t work and he is not running a legitimate trial”
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3/5/2013 – Catherina Becker

“To prey on desperate, dying people, encouraging them to fund raise, risk hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts, for life threatening humbug must be the vilest phenomenon in Medicine”

“To support such behaviour by running adverts for these vultures is equally vile”
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3/4/2013 – Robert Blaskiewicz

“ANP is toxic as anything!”

“most of Burzynski’s patients never qualify for his trials”

“They all end up taking tons of chemo used off label”
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3/5/2013 – Susan Scotvold Goodstein

“Airing a film that is nothing more than an advertisement / informercial for Burzynski’s 30 year medical scam is not presenting a fair and balanced program”
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3/5/2013 – David H. Gorski

“Antineoplastons, however, are neither nontoxic nor an effective treatment”

“In fact, they’re definitely toxic”

“People have developed a dangeros condition called hypernatremia (too high a sodium level) as a result of antineoplaston treatment”
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3/5/2013 – Adam Jacobs

“Burzynski absolutely does not research “non-toxic” treatments”

“Mostly, he uses conventional chemotherapy, but in a rather amateurish way, using unproven combinations of drugs”

“The treatment that has made him famous, antineoplastons, is highly toxic and has been known to kill people”
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3/5/2013 – David James

“You run the risk of genuinely endangering people’s lives by exposing them to unproven and ridiculously expensive treatment modalities”
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3/5/2013 – Adam Levenstein

“do I think that the fraud Burzynski should be promoted with an infomercial on a taxpayer-funded TV station … “
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3/5/2013 – William M. London

“Colorado Public Television functions as an infomercial broadcast service for false medical prophets (who profit from Colorado Public Television’s irresponsibility)”
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3/5/2013 – Paul Morgan

“Antineoplaston chemotherapy – despite the claims of Burzynski and his shills – are far from being non-toxic”

“They contain vast quantities of sodium, which results in patients having to ingest vast quantities of water to counteract the overpowering thirst generated by taking in so much sodium”

“Some patients have become grossly hypernatraemic (high serum sodium), others profoundly hypokalaemic (low serum potassium)”

“Others have developed renal failure”

“All these TOXIC SIDE EFFECTS are extremely hazardous and life-threatening”

“If you consider antineoplastons to be non-toxic, you are seriously deluded”

“If you think antineoplastons are not chemotherapy, you are also wrong”
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3/5/2013 – Tsu Dho Nimh

“You are being co-opted to slather a layer of respectability over Burzynski’s quackery”

“You seem to fit the definition of a media whore … will sell out for ratings”
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3/4/2013 – Val Perry Rendel

“Do I think magic voodoo bullshit should be used to profiteer from human suffering and desperation?”
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3/6/2013 – Andy Roseborrough

“Burzynski not only sells
bullcrap
for profit at the expense of people’s health, but he tries to silence legitimate criticism via his lawyers”

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3/4/2013 – Darren Woodward

” … the completely unproven, very expensive treatments sold to vulnerable people … “

” … rather than informing your audience it looks like you are trying to misinform them”

“by what measure are antineoplastines non-toxic, certainly medically they are toxic”
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REFERENCES:
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[1] – Critiquing Wikipedia: Burzynski Clinic, Colorado Public Television (CPT12), and Public Broadcasting System (PBS):
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/critiquing-wikipedia-burzynski-clinic-colorado-public-television-cpt12-and-public-broadcasting-system-pbs/
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[2] – Burzynski updates Scientific Publications page:
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/burzynski-updates-scientific-publications-page/
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[3] – Critiquing: American Cancer Society – Antineoplaston Therapy:
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/09/09/critiquing-american-cancer-society-antineoplaston-therapy/
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[4] – University of Michigan, where is alum Dr. David H. “Orac” Gorski’s Grapefruits ?:
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/09/04/university-of-michigan-where-is-alum-dr-david-h-orac-gorskis-grapefruits/
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“The Skeptics™” Colorado Public Television (CPT12) – PBS Facebook comment links:
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/09/14/the-skeptics-colorado-public-television-cpt12-pbs-facebook-comment-links/
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Questioning “The Skeptics™” Colorado Public Television (CPT12) PBS Facebook comments with links:
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/09/14/questioning-the-skeptics-colorado-public-television-cpt12-pbs-facebook-comments-with-links/
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The Guardian: Censorship and Bias – Six stubborn myths about cancer

See
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Critiquing: Six stubborn myths about cancer:
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https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/08/31/critiquing-six-stubborn-myths-about-cancer/
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The Guardian has NO problem whatsoever allowing the comments of individuals like Robert J. “Bob” Blaskiewicz (@rjblaskiewicz) who embellishes The Other Burzynski Patient Group (TOBPG) in order for his “stories” to sound better

I caught him doing this

See below for what happened afterwards and The Skeptics’ reaction

I deleted unnecessary portions for ease of reading

Here is the FALSE statement rjblaskiewicz inserted:
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”They initially might have had a difficult time finding a place to stay because refugees from Hurricane Katrina had been arriving in Houston, but they were set up in an apartment:”

So when he puts in the Disclaimer:

“All information posted here was either freely available online or in the press at the time of writing”

he does NOT advise the reader that he might be adding a FALSE comment
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#75 LW January 20, 2013

@Didymus Judas Thomas: “
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Yeah, iDJiT, you caught me

Did you actually read The OTHER Burzynski Patient Group?
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#76 LW January 20, 2013

Link to The OTHER Burzynski Patient Group:
http://theotherburzynskipatientgroup.wordpress.com/

It’s been given before but might be overlooked
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#89 LW January 20, 2013

@iDJiT: Long-Winded
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I’m guessing this is addressed to me

if you were actually paying attention & comprehending what has been posted on this blog you would know that I have already visited that other BlatherBlog & was immediately turned off by the author’s inane sidebar commentary
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Other BlatherBlog?

The only other blog the iDJiT has mentioned is Pharyngula, and the only other blog I’ve mentioned is The OTHER Burzynski Patient Group (
http://theotherburzynskipatientgroup.wordpress.com/ .

Here’s the disclaimer on the sidebar of The OTHER Burzynski Patient Group):
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“Disclaimer”

“This website is NOT affiliated with the Burzynski Patient Group, the Burzynski Clinic, or the Burzynski Research Institute”

“Those are all awful”

“Nor does this site mean to represent the views of any of the Clinic’s current or former patients or those of their families or loved ones”

“All information posted here was either freely available online or in the press at the time of writing”

“Please follow the links included and hear the patients’ stories in their own words as well”
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I wonder why the iDJiT, who claims not to be a fanboy of Burzynski but just interested in seeing all sides of the story told, would be turned off by this

The blogger states very clearly that he is NOT affiliated with Burzynski or any of Burzynski’s PR operations

He needs to state that so he doesn’t get sued for infringement

The blogger observes that “Those are all awful.”

That’s his opinion (with which I heartily agree), but it’s expressed politely without cursing or gutter language

The blogger then goes on to say that he doesn’t represent anyone else and that the information is freely available (i.e., that he didn’t breach anyone’s privacy, another statement he needs to make to avoid being sued), and he urges the reader to follow the links so they can see that he is not misrepresenting anyone
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#91 Marc Stephens Is Insane January 20, 2013

LW,

DJT meant he was turned off by Bob B.’s very insightful commentary that illuminates each patient’s case story
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#127 Didymus Judas Thomas January 21, 2013

Yeah LW, THAT is soooooi incitefull!!!

”They initially might have had a difficult time finding a place to stay because refugees from Hurricane Katrina had been arriving in Houston, but they were set up in an apartment:”
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#92 Marc Stephens Is Insane January 20, 2013

Not that I would EVER claim to speak on his behalf

I just remember a comment he posted on the “Technicality” thread about being turned off by a comment about Hurricane Katrina or something and how it affected a Burzynski’s patient’s ability to secure a hotel room in Houston

He said he stopped reading after that
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#93 LW January 20, 2013

@Marc Stephens Is Insane :

the iDJiT said s/he “was immediately turned off by the author’s inane sidebar commentary”

So I looked at the sidebar and all I found was the disclaimer

But perhaps you’re right

Still, only a fanboy would be turned off by the commentary
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#99 Didymus Judas Thomas January 20, 2013

LWhere?

Let me assist you:
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Didymus Judas Thomas December 26, 2012

12/24 Comments:
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Marc Stephens Is Insane December 24, 2012

“I just found a new website by chance and wanted to pass it along.”

“Kudos to whomever put this website together.”
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Yeah, I was SO impressed when right off the bat I read:

”They initially might have had a difficult time finding a place to stay because refugees from Hurricane Katrina had been arriving in Houston, but they were set up in an apartment:”
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#100 LW January 20, 2013

Oh, so on Dec 26 (twenty-five days ago), the iDJiT looked at The OTHER Burzynski Patient Group ( http://theotherburzynskipatientgroup.wordpress.com/ ) and consequently should not be expected to ever look at it again

Nor should anyone suppose that the iDJiT could ever learn anything new from later posts on that blog

Right

That makes sense to me, actually

It explains a lot about the iDJiT
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#131 Didymus Judas Thomas January 21, 2013

I actually have more important things to do than keep checking up on some web-site you may be plugging since the Society of Mutual Agrandizement needs someone to entertain them here where less thick-skinned individuals are run off by the non-fact cited tu quoque Tu-Quackers who pat each other on the head in mutual admiration thinking that if they post enough GIGO it will actually come true

Someone needs to give y’all a “reality check” & I’m happy to do it though I don’t have the time to even address all the inaccurate statements on here

There are enough of you anti-antineoplaston bloggers that you need someone on here to remind y’all that there are actually resources available on the net which you can access before foaming at the mouth

So, has your pal stopped posting inane comments about people maybe finding room in the stable to stay because the inn might have been full?
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#129 Marc Stephens Is Insane January 21, 2013

“They initially might have had a difficult time finding a place to stay because refugees from Hurricane Katrina had been arriving in Houston, but they were set up in an apartment:”

One month later and I still fail to see the problem with this sentence and fail to understand how it discredits an entire website full of true stories.
What does bother me is reading how Burzynski sucks his clients dry of every cent they have
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#154 Didymus Judas Thomas January 21, 2013

”They initially MIGHT HAVE had a difficult time finding a place to stay because refugees from Hurricane Katrina had been arriving in Houston, but they were set up in an apartment:”
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So he specializes in postulating theories about someone who “MIGHT HAVE” or “MIGHT NOT HAVE” done

I can understand why you love speculation, because that’s what you specialize in

You’re name says it all

This is like me posting:

“He might have taken a long healthy shat like a bear in the woods.”
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#130 Marc Stephens Is Insane January 21, 2013

All the information on TOBPG site is taken directly from patients’ blogs, websites, newspaper articles, etc

If the patient’s family said they had trouble getting a room in the wake of Katrina, what’s the problem?

Please explain it to me
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#155 Didymus Judas Thomas January 21, 2013

Where did it indicate this in the information from the actual individual(s) involved rather than your pal’s speculation?
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#143 al kimeea January 21, 2013

wtf wow um ok
there’s no real compassion or sympathy is there if It is willing to write off all those heart wrenching stories simply because someone had a hard time getting a room…
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#163 Didymus Judas Thomas January 21, 2013

You obviously didn’t read the blog in question

Come back & try again after you back up your fluff by being able to show that you’ve.actually read the information that’s being discussed
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#145 Marc Stephens Is Insane January 21, 2013

So no answer on why the hotel room/Katrina story bothered you so much on TOBPG site?

I asked you to explain it to me as I really don’t understand the problem

So much for the “intelligent” conversation you’re seeking

I tried to talk to you like a rational adult; I guess I should have known better
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#167 Didymus Judas Thomas January 21, 2013

Get a grip
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#147 LW January 21, 2013

What’s really odd about the comment the iDJiT found so off-putting

(“They initially might have had a difficult time finding a place to stay because refugees from Hurricane Katrina had been arriving in Houston, but they were set up in an apartment:”>

is that it’s just summarizing part of the history from the parents’ own blog ( http://chasesammut.blogspot.co.uk/2005_08_01_archive.html?m=1 ):
“In addition, as we were looking into accommodations for extended stays in the Houston area, we discovered that most hotels, residence inns, suits, etc were taken by people trying to evacuate outlying areas, including Louisiana, due to the hurricane”

“We were very lucky to get a furnished apartment,…”

Like everyone else, I fail to see what is objectionable about this
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#151 Marc Stephens Is Insane January 21, 2013

LW,

I know!

I told DJT that the information on TOBPG all comes from the patients’ own blogs, websites, public newspaper articles, etc. Bob’s comments are there merely to summarize and move the story along

I gave DJT the chance to answer my sincere, genuine, civil question like a mature, adult human

Without the sarcasm, insults, juvenile puns and Tu-Quacking

Maybe if he did answer once in a mature, adult manner people would be more inclined to listen to what he has to say
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#152 LW January 21, 2013

“Maybe if he did answer once in a mature, adult manner people would be more inclined to listen to what he has to say.”

“If” being the operant word there
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#153 LW January 21, 2013

@Marc Stephens Is Insane: “I know!”

I know you know, but the iDJiT seems to be under the impression that the statement about the Katrina refugees was some kind of editorial comment by the blogger

The iDJiT said,

So, has your pal stopped posting inane comments about people maybe finding room in the stable to stay because the inn might have been full?

I checked because I was quite certain that was not an editorial comment

(though even if it had been, I’m not clear on what makes it objectionable)
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#156 LW January 21, 2013

@iDJiT:

“They initially MIGHT HAVE had a difficult time finding a place to stay because refugees from Hurricane Katrina had been arriving in Houston, but they were set up in an apartment:”
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So he specializes in postulating theories about someone who “MIGHT HAVE” or “MIGHT NOT HAVE” done
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Ah, so that’s it

The iDJiT has trouble with idiomatic English

The blogger was summarizing information that was on the parents’ website

The reader could, and indeed was invited to, go over and read the website personally (I did)
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#158 LW January 21, 2013

The parents’ own blog ( http://chasesammut.blogspot.co.uk/2005_08_01_archive.html?m=1 ):

“In addition, as we were looking into accommodations for extended stays in the Houston area, we discovered that most hotels, residence inns, suits, etc were taken by people trying to evacuate outlying areas, including Louisiana, due to the hurricane”

“We were very lucky to get a furnished apartment,…”

In the disclaimer on the sidebar of The OTHER Burzynski Patient Group ( http://theotherburzynskipatientgroup.wordpress.com/ ):

“All information posted here was either freely available online or in the press at the time of writing”
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#169 Didymus Judas Thomas January 21, 2013

LackadaisicalWeasoning, “What’s really odd about the comment the iDJiT found so off-putting

(“They initially might have had a difficult time finding a place to stay because refugees from Hurricane Katrina had been arriving in Houston, but they were set up in an apartment:”)

is that it’s just summarizing part of the history from the parents’ own blog ( http://chasesammut.blogspot.co.uk/2005_08_01_archive.html?m=1 ):
“In addition, as we were looking into accommodations for extended stays in the Houston area, we discovered that most hotels, residence inns, suits, etc were taken by people trying to evacuate outlying areas, including Louisiana, due to the hurricane”

“We were very lucky to get a furnished apartment,…”

Like everyone else, I fail to see what is objectionable about this.”
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Therefore, you just proved why there was no need for your pal’s speculation
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