Wikipedia, you’ve sprung a Wiki Leak

4/19/2013 @ 9:43PM
onforb.es/11pwse9
Dr. Peter A. Lipson (@palMD), posted a biased article:
http://t.co/vh3cgAR6hW
A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlipson/2013/04/19/a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics
on Forbes (#Forbes)

One “lilady” decided to bite off more than she could chew, when she posted:

lilady 3 weeks ago

“Ha Didymus Thomas…You opened your huge tin of Spam, months ago! And, you “Didymous Judas Thomas” and your sock puppets were banned by Wikipedia.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Didymus_Judas_Thomas
and:

lilady 3 weeks ago

“But you ARE Didymus Judas Thomas, who, along with his/her sock puppets, are banned from Wikipedia:”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Didymus_Judas_Thomas
If “lilady” thought that I “opened” a “huge tin of Spam, months ago!,” I hope she truly enjoys the huge tin of spinach that I opened on Wikipedia:

(This “lilady” has stated her stance on “Orac’s” “Oracolytes” blog, making it clear that this “lilady” is just another one of “The SkeptiCowards,” along with “Orac,” Guy Chapman, Boris Ogon, etc.)

The list of “The SkeptiCowards,” expands exponentially

guychapman (Guy Chapman) Critiquing “The Skeptic” Burzynski Critics: A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics (page 9):
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/05/guychapman-guy-chapman-critiquing-the-skeptic-burzynski-critics-a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics-page-9/
I show JzG what a “FACT” is: Burzynski: FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions): Clinical Trial Results:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/i-show-jzg-what-a-fact-is-burzynski-faq-frequently-asked-questions-clinical-trial-results/
Wikipedia, what’s your motivation?:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/wikipedia-whats-your-motivation/
WikipediA or WikipediAin’t ?:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/wikipedia-or-wikipediaint/
Wikipedia, your Burzynski BIAS is showing:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/wikipedia-your-burzynski-bias-is-showing/
Having successfully proven that Jimmy (“Alabamy Jimbo“) Donal Wales’ Wiki Leaks Wikipedia was BIASED when it came to the
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic
Burzynski Clinic
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic
article, I decided to:

Do The “Alabamy Right” Thing

(Unlike Wikipedia: Statement Of Principles)

[[WP:SOP]] “Statement of principles from Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales:

(Wikipedia: Doing The Right Thing)

1. Doing The Right Thing takes many forms, but perhaps most central is the preservation of our shared vision for the neutral point of view policy and for a culture of thoughtful, diplomatic honesty.”

Time for a huge tin can of Alabamy WhoopA$$

Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Didymus Judas Thomas

Pages in category “Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Didymus Judas Thomas”

The following 10 pages are in this category, out of 10 total. This list may not reflect recent changes (learn more).

User:166.205.55.18
User:166.205.55.23
User:166.205.55.24
User:166.205.55.30
User:166.205.55.40
User:166.205.68.19
User:166.205.68.25
User:166.205.68.43
User:166.205.68.44
User:166.205.68.49
Last modified on 25 February 2013, at 00:06
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Didymus_Judas_Thomas
NICE TRY, WikipediAin’t!
redd.it/1efn0f
Read THIS:
http://redd.it/1efn0f
(Wikipedia: Neutral Point Of View)

“[[WP:NPOV]] “History of NPOV:” (Content # 6). “The relative prominence of each viewpoint among Wikipedia editors or the general public is not relevant and should not be considered,” references.” Thank you very much. 166.205.55.30 (talk) 20:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)Didymus Judas Thomas 1/21/2013l”
http://www.reddit.com/tb/1efn0f
WikipediA or WikipediAin’t ?:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/wikipedia-or-wikipediaint/
Did you see THAT WikipediAin’t?
http://po.st/xLSBJ7
THAT’s IP address:

166.205.55.30

User:166.205.55.18
User:166.205.55.23
User:166.205.55.24
»→User:166.205.55.30←«
User:166.205.55.40
User:166.205.68.19
User:166.205.68.25
User:166.205.68.43
User:166.205.68.44
User:166.205.68.49

Let’s see where else WikipediAin’t Ain’t managed to “Do The Right Thing,” shall we?

2/12/2013 and 2/13/2013, 2 purported Wikipedian’s “outed” themselves on “Orac’s” blog (Dr. David H. Gorski, @oracknows, @gorskon, @ScienceBasedMed,
http://www.scienceblogs.com/Insolence, http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org,
#sciencebasedmedicine)

#174 – SW – February 12, 2013
[…]
anti-Burzynski “bloggers”
[…]
These individuals are also responsible for “gate keeping” the Wikipedia Page on The Burzynski Clinic.

This issue, as well as the identities of those involved, will be covered in great length in the new 2013 “Chapter 2″ documentary.
[…]
You will notice the “anti-Burzynski bloggers” refuse to do that or adhere to reputable sources.
[…]
As one of those “gate keeping” wikipedians I find this quite laughable – not only the threat of “covering” my identity, but also the suggestion that bloggers and wikipedians (there may be an overlap, but I can assure you that I’m not a blogger) refuse to check and adhere to reputable sources

#203 – novalox – February 13, 2013

Now, let’s just wait and see djt make accusations of persecution and unfairness.

Should be entertaining to see his attempts at this.

Oh, BTW, djt, if you are still reading this, I was one of the Wikipedia editors who reported you for your trolling behaviors there.

Have fun with that
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/02/08/will-the-fda-finally-slap-down-stanislaw-burzynski-for-good
Neither of these individuals has had the testicular fortitude to bring their “A Game” and post comments or reply to questions on MY blog; which is different than “The Censoring Skeptics” blogs (Have fun with THAT):

Dr. David H. Gorski, @gorskon, @oracknows, @ScienceBasedMed,
http://www.scienceblogs.com/Insolence,
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org,
Adam Jacobs (@DianthusMed), http://dianthus.co.uk/blog, @_JosephineJones, http://josephinejones.wordpress.com, Dr. Peter A. Lipson, (@palMD), Peter A. Lipson, Musings on the intersection of Articles Bias and Censorship, A Film Producer A Cancer Doctor And Their Critics,
Guy Chapman, guychapman, @SceptiGuy, @vGuyUK, http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/blahg, Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales, http://www.jimmywales.com, (@jimmy_wales), Forbes (#Forbes),
onforb.es/11pwse9,
http://t.co/vh3cgAR6hW,
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlipson/2013/04/19/a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics, Keir Liddle,(@Endless_Psych), http://www.thetwentyfirstfloor.com/, @rjblaskiewicz (rjblaskiewicz, Bob Blaskiewicz FauxSkeptic Exposed!, R.J. Blaskiewicz), http://www.skepticalhumanates.com
who censor others; which I do NOT do on my blog, since I actually believe in “Free Speech,” Walk the Walk, and Talk the Talk

WikipediAin’t apologist, Guy Chapman, posted:

“Ne’s like a rash over the blogs and twitter, he’s also been banned from Wikipedia which has a more robust attitude to sockpuppets and block evasion than some services.”
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/blahg/2013/03/burzynski-another-fact-blind-troll-who-predicted-that/
“Ne’s”?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Didymus_Judas_Thomas&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop
Guy Chapman is a Coward
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Didymus_Judas_Thomas
Chapman makes EXCUSES and hides behind his keypad, rather than respond to questions

Critiquing “Burzynski: Another fact-blind troll, who predicted that?”:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/24/critiquing-burzynski-another-fact-blind-troll-who-predicted-that
“The U.S. v. Article’~ court stated that the FDA’s responsibility was to protect the ultimate consumer, which included protection of “the ignorant, the unthinking and the credulous.”‘

“the ignorant

the unthinking and

the credulous.”‘

SW and novalox, which are you?

Boris Ogon

“You are right now having a live “debate” in front of more than 10,000 people, and nothing you have presented suggests that you would be more coherent in person.”

4,089 views

Not so much

Waiting for the 10,000

Peter Lipson: “Speech is best countered by more speech

Advertisement

WikipediA or WikipediAin’t ?

Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia is BIASED, as I have proven previously:

Wikipedia, what’s your motivation?:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/wikipedia-whats-your-motivation/
I show JzG what a “FACT” is: Burzynski: FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions): Clinical Trial Results:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/i-show-jzg-what-a-fact-is-burzynski-faq-frequently-asked-questions-clinical-trial-results/
guychapman (Guy Chapman) Critiquing “The Skeptic” Burzynski Critics: A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics (page 9)
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/05/guychapman-guy-chapman-critiquing-the-skeptic-burzynski-critics-a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics-page-9/
1/13/2013 I requested that Wikipedia add this antineoplaston review article to the Burzynski Clinic Wikipedia article:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic
8/2008 – REVIEW ARTICLE
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18682440
Complementary and Alternative Medicine in Present Day Oncology Care:
redd.it/1edfpd
Promises and Pitfalls
http://redd.it/1edfpd
Japanese Journal of Clinical Oncology
http://m.jjco.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2008/08/05/jjco.hyn066.full.pdf#page=1
Jpn J Clin Oncol. 2008 Aug;38(8):512-20
http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/8/512.full?sid=5c546408-071e-4148-abd3-6c295dd5c6d7
doi: 10.1093/jjco/hyn066. Epub 2008 Aug 5
http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/8/512.full.pdf?sid=f8e0a3cc-2912-40e5-a7c2-dbd6db4b3c1d
Department of Radiation Oncology, Tata Memorial Hospital, Parel, Mumbai, India

PDF pg. 5 of 9

PHARMACOLOGIC AND BIOLOGIC TREATMENTS

BURZYNSKI

Burzynski (49), a biochemist, discovered that peptides and hormones including butyric acid and phenylbutyrate when added to cancer cells results in their differentiation, converting them into normal cells again

Clinical trials have, however, failed to accrue patients to test this exciting concept

In the solitary phase II study, Antineoplastons [consisting of antineoplaston A10 (A10I) and AS2-1 injections] were given intravenously in escalating doses

The overall survival at 2 and 5 years was 39 and 22%, respectively, and maximum survival was more than 17 years for a patient with anaplastic astrocytoma and more than 5 years for a patient with glioblastoma

Progression-free survival at 6 months was 39%

Complete response was achieved in 11%, partial response in 11%, stable disease in 39% and progressive disease in 39% of patients (50)

PDF pg. 9 of 9

References

49. Burzynski SR

The Present Stage of Antineoplaston Research

Integr Cancer Ther 2004;3:47–58

50. Burzynski SR, Janicki TJ, Weaver RA, Burzynski B

Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 and AS2–1 of high-grade, recurrent, and progressive brainstem glioma

Integr Cancer Ther 2006;5:40–7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Burzynski_Clinic
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Burzynski_Clinic&diff=prev&oldid=533137378
to view this change.

*Per [[WP:NPOV]] & [[WP:MEDRS ]] please add at the end of the Burzynski Clinic section; based on “Complementary and Alternative Medicine in Present Day Oncology Care: Promises and Pitfalls,” “Japanese Journal of Clinical Oncology” (which can be reviewed in HTML
http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/8/512.full?sid=5c546408-071e-4148-abd3-6c295dd5c6d7 or PDFs at pg. 5 of 9 & reference at pg. 9
http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/8/512.full.pdf?sid=f8e0a3cc-2912-40e5-a7c2-dbd6db4b3c1d
http://m.jjco.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2008/08/05/jjco.hyn066.full.pdf#page=1 ):
+
:”A 2008 medical review stated that Burzynski “discovered that peptides and hormones including butyric acid and phenylbutyrate when added to cancer cells results in their differentiation, converting them into normal cells again.” “In the solitary phase II study” of “Antineoplastons” [consisting of A10 (A10I) and AS2-1 injections], “the overall survival at 2 and 5 years was 39 and 22%, respectively, and maximum survival was more than 17 years for a patient with anaplastic astrocytoma and more than 5 years for a patient with glioblastoma. Progression-free survival at 6 months was 39%. Complete response was achieved in 11%, partial response in 11%, stable disease in 39% and progressive disease in 39% of patients.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18682440 &
+
*based on “The Oncologist,” “Complementary and Alternative Therapies for Cancer” (which can be reviewed in HTML
http://theoncologist.alphamedpress.org/content/9/1/80.full?sid=aeef6d69-bf46-4bd0-93b0-f259cd21d416 or PDFs at pg. 4 of 10 & references at pg.. 7
http://theoncologist.alphamedpress.org/content/9/1/80.full.pdf
http://www.oncocure.ca/assets/byTopic/IntegrativeOncology/2-CAM%20Therapies%20in%20CA-Oncologist%202004.pdf ):
+
:”A 2004 Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center medical review stated that antineoplastons therapy “research at the Burzynski Institute was permitted under an Investigational New Drug permit. The group’s preliminary report from a single-arm phase II study of 12 patients showed a 50% response rate.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14755017
Thank you very much. [[User:Didymus Judas Thomas|Didymus Judas Thomas]] ([[User talk:Didymus Judas Thomas|talk]]) 23:18, 13 January 2013 (UTC)Didymus Judas Thomas 1/13/2013

A search of “Japanese Journal of Clinical Oncology” on Wiki, displays:
http://www.wikipedia.org/
Search results:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%22Japanese+Journal+of+Clinical+Oncology%22&go=Go
View (previous 20 | next 20) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500)

A search HERE:
http://www.wikisearch.com/
About 152 results (0.16 seconds)

A review of those entries show that Wikipedia allows the

“Japanese Journal of Clinical Oncology”

to be listed as a [[WP:MEDRS]] source

(Wikipedia: Medical Resources)

So, what was Wikipedia’s NON-BIASED rational wiki reasoning for NOT including this medical journal review article reference?

Alexbrn advised:

Contact the editor:
mail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Alexbrn
wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alexbrn
“It seems clear from previous discussion on this page there is no WP:CONSENSUS to add the material you are requesting; quite the opposite in fact:”

“a strong consensus not to add it, with plenty of reasoned argument in support.”

“The article presents the well-sourced consensus view of the scientific/medical communities already.”

“We shouldn’t be undermining that with poorer-quality sources.”

“(1/15/2013) AND “The article gives the consensus view of the professional community, as represented by the American Cancer Society and Cancer Research UK.”

“In relation, other one-off articles are “poorer-sources”, and we must not use them to undermine the clearly presented consensus.”

[[User:Alexbrn|Alexbrn]] [[User talk:Alexbrn|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Alexbrn|contribs]]|[[User:Alexbrn#Conflict_of_interest_declaration|COI]] 10:58, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


See
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Burzynski_Clinic&diff=next&oldid=533161058
to view this change.

(Alexbrn; who is a Journeyman Editor with over 2,000 edits, has been on WP over 5 1/2 years, is a native speaker of English, and has a Doctor of Philosophy degree in English)

Let’s “FACT-CHECK” Alexbrn, shall we?

(Wikipedia: Neutral Point of View)

(1/16/2013). WP:NPOV clearly indicates:

“Editing from a neutral point of view (NPOV) means representing FAIRLY, PROPORTIONATELY, and as far as possible WITHOUT BIAS, ALL significant views that have been published by reliable sources.

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

ALL Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content MUST be written from a neutral point of view.

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

NPOV is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia and of other Wikimedia projects.

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

This policy is NONNEGOTIABLE and ALL editors and articles MUST follow it.”

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

“The principles upon which this policy is based CANNOT be superseded by OTHER POLICIES or GUIDELINES, or by editors’ consensus.”

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

(Words CAPITALIZED for emphasis only.).

“1 Explanation of the neutral point of view.”

“This page in a nutshell:”

Articles mustn’t take sides, but should explain the sides, fairly and without bias.”

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

“This applies to both what you say and how you say it.”

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

Editors, while naturally having their own points of view, should strive in good faith to provide complete information, and not to promote one particular point of view over another.”

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

“As such, the neutral point of view does not mean exclusion of certain points of view, but including all notable and verifiable points of view.”

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

[[WP:NPOV]] “History of NPOV:” (Content # 6). “The relative prominence of each viewpoint among Wikipedia editors or the general public is not relevant and should not be considered,” references.” Thank you very much. 166.205.55.30 (talk) 20:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)Didymus Judas Thomas 1/21/2013l

[[WP:SR]] “Wikipedia does not have its own views, or determine what is “correct“.

(Wikipedia: Simplified Ruleset)

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

Instead, editors try to summarize what good sources have said about ideas and information.

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

Differing views are presented objectively and without bias as they are reported in reliable sources—sources that have a reputation for being accurate.

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

Good sources are the base of the encyclopedia, and anyone must be able to realistically check whether contributions can be backed up by one.”

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs, if you do NOT think (?) that the Japanese Journal of Clinical Oncology is a reliable source—source that has a reputation for being accurate and / or
“Good source”, then remove ALL [[WP:MEDRS]] references to it

[[WP:NPOVFAQ]]Balancing different views/Pseudoscience:

(Wikipedia: Neutral Point of View Frequently Asked Questions)

Balancing different views

If we’re going to represent the sum total of encyclopedic knowledge, then we must concede that we will be describing views repugnant to us without asserting that they are false.

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

The task before us is not to describe disputes as though pseudoscience were on a par with science; rather, the task is to represent the majority (scientific) view as the majority view and the minority

(sometimes pseudoscientific)

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

view as the minority view, and to explain how scientists have received or criticized pseudoscientific theories.

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

This is all in the purview of the task of describing a dispute fairly.”

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/FAQ
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/FAQ
[[WP:NPOVFAQ]]

See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias
[[WP:CSB]]

Did Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs do this?

WikipediA or WikipediAin’t ?

YOU decide, because in my opinion:

Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs did NOT do this
onforb.es/11pwse9
OR THIS:
http://t.co/vh3cgAR6hW
“3. Why is it that on the Wikipedia “Brainstem Glioma” Prognosis page it has “needs citations,” when I can do an Internet search and find reliable independent sources for that information?”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlipson/2013/04/19/a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics
“The U.S. v. Article’~ court stated that the FDA’s responsibility was to protect the ultimate consumer, which included protection of “the ignorant, the unthinking and the credulous.”‘

“the ignorant

the unthinking and

the credulous.”‘

Alexbrn and Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales’ Wikipedia watchdogs, which are you?

guychapman (Guy Chapman) Critiquing “The Skeptic” Burzynski Critics: A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics (page 9)

onforb.es/11pwse9

http://t.co/vh3cgAR6hW

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlipson/2013/04/19/a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics
Didymus Judas Thomas, Contributor

Musings on the intersection of Articles, Bias, and Censorship

(The Big 3: A.B.C.)

4/19/2013 @ 9:43PM

A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics

guychapman 5 days ago

“Well, this has flushed out i the comments most of what we’ve seen on Twitter and the blogs over the past year or two.”

guychapman, hardly
redd.it/1czvol
Forbes censors Peter Lipson
http://redd.it/1czvol
“Speech is best countered by more
http://www.reddit.com/tb/1czvol
speech” article comments:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/forbes-censors-peter-lipson-speech-is-best-countered-by-more-speech-article-comments
"On the one side we have the true believers claiming that there is a cure, that it’s being denied, that people would “otherwise die” (begging the question), and asking for “respect” and “decency”"

guychapman, THIS cure ?

Click to access BurzynskiTriesToExposeNCI.pdf

"(as if it is respectful and decent to claim to cure cancer without good evidence)."

guychapman, THIS “good evidence” that you’re “without” ?

Burzynski – The Antineoplaston Randomized Japan Phase II Clinical Trial Study:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/burzynski-the-antineoplaston-randomized-japan-phase-ii-clinical-trial-study
"On the other side we have one really very simple point: show me the evidence."

guychapman, THIS “good evidence” that you’re “without” ?

The FDA’s Drug Review Process:

Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective

“[T]he emphasis in Phase 2 is on EFFECTIVENESS”

“This phase aims to obtain PRELIMINARY DATA on whether the drug works in people who have a certain disease or condition”

“Phase 3 studies begin if EVIDENCE of EFFECTIVENESS is shown in Phase 2″

“These studies gather more information about safety and EFFECTIVENESS, studying different populations and different dosages and using the drug in combination with other drugs”
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/resourcesforyou/consumers/ucm143534.htm
“61 registered human trials, one completed, zero results published, from any of them.”

guychapman, do you mean THIS ?

clinicaltrials . gov does NOT contain the same data as the National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) cancer . gov web-site:

61 TOTAL
1 – Not Yet Recruiting (Open)(Phase 3)
1 – Closed
2 – Terminated (Withdrawn due to slow enrollment)
7 – Withdrawn (This study has been withdrawn prior to enrollment)
10 – Recruiting (Open)
11 – Open (1 Not Yet Recruiting / 10 Recruiting)
40 – Active, not recruiting (Closed)

The below 1st link: 10 Active (Open):
http://cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/search/results?protocolsearchid=11475951
The below 2nd link: 25 Closed-1st screen / 15 Closed-1 Completed-2nd screen:
http://cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/search/results?protocolsearchid=11476036
NONE of the above are “UNKNOWN” per the above 2 National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) links:

10 – Recruiting (Open)
11 – Open (1 Not Yet Recruiting / 10 Recruiting)
40 – Active, not recruiting (Closed)

10=Open
11=1 Not Yet Recruiting / 10 Recruiting
40=Closed
61-TOTAL

“The Burzynski fans’ snowstorm of irrelevant, low-grade publications in low impact journals and conference abstracts that aren’t even peer-reviewed, do not address this at all.”

guychapman, are you referring to THIS ?

The “National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH)

Cancer Clinical Trials,

15. What happens when a clinical trial is over?”

“The results of clinical trials are OFTEN published in peer-reviewed scientific journals”

” … WHETHER OR NOT the results are published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal … “
http://m.cancer.gov/topics/factsheets/clinical-trials
This makes it clear that clinical trial results “are OFTEN” published, but sometimes they are “NOT” published “in a peer-reviewed scientific journal”

“The Helsinki Declaration states the obligations of those conducting trials in humans, and getting the results (good or bad) published and available is a core requirement.”

guychapman, WHERE does the Declaration of Helsinki indicate WHEN the final results of human clinical trials MUST be published?

Burzynski: Declaration of Helsinki
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/burzynski-declaration-of-helsinki
guychapman 5 days ago

“I have some questions for the Burzynski fans.”

guychapman, I have some questions for you

Is it just me, or does it seem like I’m repeating what I already provided HERE?

Critiquing “The Skeptic”
redd.it/1do1ah
Burzynski Critics: A Film
http://redd.it/1do1ah
Producer, A Cancer
http://www.reddit.com/tb/1do1ah
Doctor, And Their Critics (page 9)
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/05/04/critiquing-the-skeptic-burzynski-critics-a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics-page-9/
“1. Burzynski’s claims are superficially similar to those of Max Gerson.”

“Gerson’s therapy is known to be ineffective and potentially harmful, but he used patient anecdotes – people sincerely convinced they had undergone a miracle cure – to promote his business.”

“What *objective* mechanism do you propose we use to distinguish between Burzynski and the quack Gerson?”

guychapman, how about the publications and Securities and Exchange (SEC) filings cited on my page 9 critique?

“2. Burzynski has registered 61 clinical trials in humans, completed one and published no useful data from any.”

guychapman, you obviously have a very “fast and loose” definition of “no useful data”

Exactly WHAT is your definition of “no useful data”?

“Can you name any mainstream cancer research operations that have similar rates of failure to compete and publish?”

guychapman, can you name any mainstream publications like Forbes that have similar rates of failure to “compete” and publish my 15+ comments in reply to your 18 comments?

Do you think it was because they knew that I would “rip you a new one” and you would be left there as the proverbial “Emperor (who) has no clothes”?

“3. How many people do you estimate are involved, globally, in the conspiracy to suppress Burzynski’s treatment?”

“My rough guess is a few hundred thousand.”

“Can you give a better estimate with reasons?”

guychapman, let’s start with YOU, guychapman (Guy Chapman, @SceptiGuy, @vGuyUK,
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/blahg),
your pals at Wikipedia; Jimmy (Jimbo) Donal Wales,
http://www.jimmywales.com,
(@jimmy_wales – whom you re-twit on Twitter), JzG|Guy, Guy, Anthony (AGK) BASC, Alexbrn, Dave Dial, Drmies, NE Ent, fluffernutter, foxj, jpgordon, Guerillero, Ironholds, John, Lord Sjones23, Tom Morris, Nstrauss, Steve Pereira/SilkTork, Rhode Island Red, Arthur Rubin, Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 (Seb az86556), Sgerbic, IRWolfie, Six words, Yobol, @RudyHellzapop, @_JosephineJones, @JCmacc1, @Malboury, @DianthusMed, @medTek, @StopBurzynski, @StortSkeptic, Dr. Peter A. Lipson (@palMD), #Forbes censor(s), Dr. David H. Gorski (@gorskon, @oracknows, @ScienceBasedMed, #sciencebasedmedicine,
http://www.scienceblogs.com/Insolence,
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org,
The Faux Skeptic Revealed! Bob Blaskiewicz (@rjblaskiewicz, R.J. Blaskiewicz, Blatherskitewicz), C0nc0rdance, Boris Ogon, lilady, JGC2013, claire G, Sharon Hill, Allen Jones, Lynne, @JCmacc1, Paul Morgan (@drpaulmorgan), oval wooki, Vered Yasur, (the Forbes group) and
http://burzynskimovie.com/images/stories/transcript/Documents/BurzynskiTriesToExposeNCI.pdf, etc.

“4. When you talk about Antineoplastons not being chemotherapy, what, in your mind, distinguishes the intravenous administration of one chemical from the intravenous administration of another, other than the fact that it’s Burzynski doing it?”

guychapman, THIS:

“High Dose ANPA chemotherapy IV drip”

“…an unapproved drug, not ordinary “chemotherapy”
https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/27/27.F3d.153.93-2071.html
“5. When you speak about ANPs not being toxic, what, in your mind, distinguishes the side effects of “non-toxic” ANPs”

“(nausea, hypernatraemia, stroke etc)”

“form the side effects of other, “toxic” drugs?”

guychapman, THIS:

Burzynski: HYPERNATREMIA:
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/burzynski-hypernatremia
FACT: Is “HYPERNATREMIA” listed on the National Cancer Institute (NCI) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) list as a possible “Adverse Effect” of antineoplastons?:
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/antineoplastons/healthprofessional/page6
I do NOT see HYPERNATREMIA or STROKE on the list

2/13/2013 – The frequency, cost, and clinical outcomes of HYPERNATREMIA in patients hospitalized to a comprehensive CANCER center
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23404230
Over 3 month period in 2006 re 3,446 patients, most of the HYPERNATREMIA (90 %) was acquired during hospital stay

Division of Internal Medicine, UT MD Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, TX, USA

Department of General Internal Medicine, University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center

Division of Endocrinology, Mayo Clinic

Support Care Cancer. 2013 Feb 13. [Epub ahead of print]

Supportive Care in Cancer
February 2013

DOI
10.1007/s00520-013-1734-6
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00520-013-1734-6
HYPERNATREMIA in the U.S.:

“HYPERNATREMIA is the most common electrolyte disorder in the United States”

“In some cases, CANCER may cause the condition …”
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000394.htm
“A Burzynski critic has posted:”

“In order to maintain their doses of ANP, patients are required to drink obscene amounts of water every day (some report up to 12 quarts or more)”

“If they fail to do so, they may lapse into unconsciousness or die”

Let’s put this in perspective

FACT: Some sources indicate:

1) A man should drink about
3 liters (101.44 ounces / 3 quarts 5.44 ounces) per day

{12 quarts = 384 ounces = 11.356 liters}

[12 quarts in 24 hours = 1/2 quart or 16 ounces per hour]

2) Extremely healthy kidneys could process about 30 ounces (approx .9 liters) of water in an hour

{30 ounces in 24 hours = 720 ounces}

[720 ounces = 22.5 quarts per day]

3) A person with healthy kidneys could develop water intoxication by drinking about 2 to 3 times what their kidneys can process

So, if extremely healthy kidneys could process about 30 ounces per hour and 12 quarts per day would require one to only drink 16 ounces per hour, that means one is being asked to drink 14 ounces less per hour than what extremely healthy kidneys could process

So even if one drinks more than 16 ounces per hour so that one does not have to be awake hourly, there is still opportunity to do that

Of course, there are certain other factors that might have to be taken into consideration depending on the patient

“6. Burzynski has convinced you that he can cure incurable cancers.”

“What figures has he given you for his five-year survival versus standard of care?”

guychapman, HERE:

2003 – Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in patients with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma:

a preliminary report
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12718563
Drugs R D. 2003;4(2):91-101

recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma

of all 12 patients
2 years / 33.3% – Survival
2 / 17% – alive and tumour free for over 5 years since initial diagnosis

from the start of treatment
5 years – 1 alive for more than
4 years – 1 alive for more than

2003
Protocol – recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma
12 – Patients Accrued
10 – Evaluable Patients
2 / 20% – # and % of Patients Showing Complete Response
3 / 30% – # and % of Patients Showing Partial Response
3 / 30% – # and % of Patients Showing Stable Disease

2004 – Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in children with recurrent and progressive multicentric glioma :

a preliminary report
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15563234
Drugs R D. 2004;5(6):315-26

incurable recurrent and progressive multicentric glioma

6 patients were diagnosed with pilocytic astrocytoma

4 with low-grade astrocytoma
1 with astrocytoma grade 2

1 case of visual pathway glioma, a biopsy was not performed due to a dangerous location

1 patient was non-evaluable due to only 4 weeks of ANP and lack of follow-up scans

1 patient who had stable disease discontinued ANP against medical advice and died 4.5 years later

10 patients are alive and well from 2 to >14 years post-diagnosis

2004
Protocol – incurable recurrent and progressive multicentric glioma
12 – Patients Accrued
– Evaluable Patients
33% – % of Patients Showing Complete Response
25% – % of Patients Showing Partial Response
33% – % of Patients Showing Stable Disease
0 / 0% – # and % of Patients Showing Progressive Disease

2005 – Long-term survival of high-risk pediatric patients with primitive neuroectodermal tumors treated with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15911929
Integr Cancer Ther. 2005 Jun;4(2):168-77

13 children with recurrent disease or high risk

6 (46%) survived more than 5 years

2005
Protocol – recurrent disease or
high risk
– Patients Accrued
– Evaluable Patients
23% – % of Patients Showing Complete Response
8% – % of Patients Showing Partial Response
31% – % of Patients Showing Stable Disease
38% – % of Patients Showing Progressive Disease

2006 – Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, and progressive brainstem glioma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16484713
Integr Cancer Ther. 2006 Mar;5(1):40-7

Brainstem glioma carries the worst prognosis of all malignancies of the brain

Most patients with brainstem glioma fail standard radiation therapy and chemotherapy and do not survive longer than 2 years

Treatment is even more challenging when an inoperable tumor is of high-grade pathology (HBSG)

patients with inoperable tumor of high-grade pathology (HBSG) treated with antineoplastons in 4 phase 2 trials

22% – overall survival at 5 years

17+ years maximum survival for a patient with anaplastic astrocytoma

5+ years for a patient with glioblastoma

5+ year survival in recurrent diffuse intrinsic glioblastomas and anaplastic astrocytomas of the brainstem in a small group of patients

18 – evaluable

2006
Protocol – high-grade pathology (HBSG)
– Patients Accrued
18 – Evaluable Patients
11% – % of Patients Showing Complete Response
11% – % of Patients Showing Partial Response
39% – % of Patients Showing Stable Disease
39% – % of Patients Showing Progressive Disease

2007 – Recent clinical trials in diffuse intrinsic brainstem glioma

Review Article
http://www.cancer-therapy.org/CT/v5/B/HTML/42._Burzynski,_379-390.html
Cancer Therapy Vol 5, 379-390, 2007

(Forbes)

Boris Ogon 1 week ago

(citing AstroturfWatch)

“They refuse to fact check anything. Namely Phase 2 results showing a 25% cure rate for brainstem glioma, never accomplished in medical history—ever.”

“Published plan as day in a ‘internationally peer-reviewed’ article.”

“You mean PMIDs 12718563 and 16484713? (These, at least, are the ones that Merola cites, which I assume is the sum total of your “fact checking.”)”

“Namely Phase 2 results showing a 25% cure rate for brainstem glioma, never accomplished in medical history—ever”

“Notice the chart on page 172 (page 8 of PDF).”

“Find just one, any single cure for this tumor type and you can’t, outside of Antineoplastons FDA sanctioned clinical trials:”

Click to access 1252.pdf

“The first reference is to Drugs in R&D 4:91 (2003).”

“The second reference is to Integrative Cancer Therapies 4:168 (2005).”

The “chart on page 172 (page 8 of PDF):”

Click to access 1252.pdf

refers to:

2006 Adis – Pediatr Drugs 2006; 8 (3)

pg 172

Treatments for Astrocytic Tumors

Table II. Treatment of diffuse, intrinsic brainstem glioma in children

Burzynski et al. [88] – Reference
Phase II – Study Type
(no. of pts) – pts = patients
RP (30) – RP = recurrent and progressive tumor – Tumor type
ANP – ANP = antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 – Treatment – ANP
OS (%) – OS = overall survival
[2y; 5y]
46.7; 30 – Efficacy
MST (mo)
19.9 – MST = median survival time
[% (no. )]
27 (8) – CR – CR = complete response
[% (no. )]
20% (6) – PR – PR = partial response
[% (no. )]
23% (7) – SD – SD = stabile disease
30% (9) – PD = progressive disease

pg 177

88. Burzynski SR, Weaver RA, Janicki T. Long-term survival in phase II studies of antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 (ANP) in patients with diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma [abstract]. Neuro-oncol 2004; 6: 386

This is the 2004 publication, NOT 2003

Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in children with recurrent and progressive multicentric glioma : a preliminary report.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15563234
Drugs R D. 2004;5(6):315-26

pg 172

Burzynski et al. [89] – Reference
Phase II – Study Type
(no. of pts) – pts = patients
RPS (10) – RPS = recurrent and progressive tumors in children aged <4y – Tumor type {(66) = most in a study}
ANP – ANP = antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 – Treatment – ANP
OS (%) – OS = overall survival
[2y; 5y] – Efficacy
60; 20 {46.7 (30) = next best study}
MST (mo)
26.3 – MST = median survival time – {19.9 = next best study}
[% (no. )]
30% (3) – CR = complete response – {27% (8) = next best study}
[% (no. )]
0% (0) – PR = partial response – {56% (1) = next best}
[% (no. )]
40% (4) – SD = stable disease – {44% (25) = best}
[% (no. )]
30% (3) – PD = progressive disease – {23% (13) = best}

(Above, I also provide the best next case to compare to)

pg 177

89. Burzynski SR, Weaver RA, Janicki TJ, et al. Targeted therapy with ANP in children less than 4 years old with inoperable brain stem gliomas [abstract]. Neuro-oncol 2005; 7: 300

Long-term survival of high-risk pediatric patients with primitive neuroectodermal tumors treated with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15911929
Integr Cancer Ther. 2005 Jun;4(2):168-77

pg 173

1.4.3 Targeted Therapy

“…multi-targeted therapy with ANP has shown promising results [12;88-91]”

pg 176

90. Burzynski SR, Lewy RI, Weaver RA, et al. Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in patients with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma: a preliminary report. Drugs R D 2003; 4: 91-101

Phase II study of antineoplaston A10 and AS2-1 in patients with recurrent diffuse intrinsic brain stem glioma: a preliminary report.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12718563
Drugs R D. 2003;4(2):91-101

91. Burzynski SR, Weaver RA, Janicki T. et al. Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 (ANP) of high-grade, recurrent and progressive brain stem glioma. Integr Cancer Ther 2006 Mar; 5 (1): 40-7

Targeted therapy with antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 of high-grade, recurrent, and progressive brainstem glioma.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16484713
Integr Cancer Ther. 2006 Mar;5(1):40-7

30 evaluable patients with recurrent and progressive DBSG

“>40% of patients survived for more than 2 years
30% more than 5 years.”

27% – CR – Complete Response
20% – PR – Partial Response
23% – SD – Stable Disease
30% – PD – Progressive Disease
[12,88]

pg 175

12. Burzynski SR Targeted therapy for brain tumors In: Columbus, F editor. Brain cancer research progress. New York: Nova Science Publishers Inc 2005

pg 173

10 evaluable children
aged <4 years diagnosed with DBSG treated with ANP
youngest 3-month-old infant
[89]

60% – 2-year survival rate
20% – 5-year survival rate
maximum survival more than 7 years

30% – CR – Complete Response
40% – SD – Stable Disease
30% – PD – Progressive Disease
[89]

“The results are compiled in table II.”

pg 174

2.3. Targeted Therapy

Multi-targeted ANP therapy is free from chronic toxicity in children and adults based on the results of numerous clinical studies involving

1652 adults
335 children
[147]

pg 178

147. Burzynski SR. Annual report to the FDA, IND 43,742, 2006

pg 174

Long-term follow-up of children treated with ANP for astrocytomas revealed:
normal development
no cognitive or endocrine deficiencies
normal fertility

>5 years – substantial number of patients tumor free
>17 years – follow-up period for some patients

pg 169

1.1.4. Targeted Therapy

Clinical trials with agents affecting single targets are in progress and the preliminary results of multi-targeted therapy with
antineoplastons (ANP) A10
and
AS2-1 have been reported
[39]

small group of patients with progressive LGA, ANP
60% – CR rate – Complete Response
10% – PR rate – Partial Response
median survival 7 years 9 months
maximum survival of more than 15 years
[39]

LGA = Low-Grade Astrocytomas

Table I. Selected chemotherapy regimens for the treatment of low- grade astrocytoma in children

Burzynski [39] – Reference
Phase II d – d = Preliminary results – Study type
P – P = progressive tumor – Tumor type
(no. of pts) – pts = patients
ANP (10) – ANP = antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 – Treatment {(78) = most in a study}
OS [%] – OS = overall survival
100% (1 yr) – 90% (3 yr) – Efficacy
93 mo – MST = MST = median survival time – {96 (1 y) next closest}
CR [% (no.)]
60% (6) – CR = complete response {24 (11) next closest}
PR [% (no.)]
10% (1) – PR = partial response {60% (9) best other study}
[% (no.)]
30% (3) – SD = stable disease + MR = minor response {70% (14) best other study}
[% (no.)]
0% (0) – PD = progressive disease {4% (2) next closest}
PFS (%)
90 (1 y) – 90 (3 y) – PFS = progression-free survival {100 (1 y) – 68 (3 y) best other study

(Above, I also provide the best next case to compare to)

pg 176

39. Burzynski SR Clinical application of body epigenetic system: multi-targeted therapy for primary brain tumors. World and Ehrlich Conference on Dosing of Magic Bullets; 2004 Sep 9-11 Nurnberg

Burzynski Clinical Trials (The SEC filings):
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/burzynski-clinical-trials-2
Who has audited these figures?

guychapman, YOU just did

Otherwise, check with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

Where are they published?

guychapman, if you have NOT yet figured THAT out…

“7. There are numerous cases where the Burzynski clinic has said a tumour is “dying from the inside”, but where it turns out that it is growing aggressively and suffering necrosis due to outstripping its blood supply; this is usually a precursor to the death of a patient only weeks after being told they were on the way to a cure.”

“How do you account for this repeated error?”

guychapman, WHERE is the documentation?

Boris Ogon

“You are right now having a live “debate” in front of more than 10,000 people, … “

3,919 views

Not so much

Waiting for the 10,000

4/19/2013 @ 9:43PM

Peter Lipson: “Speech is best countered by more speech”

Critiquing “The Skeptic” Burzynski Critics: A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics (page 4)

onforb.es/11pwse9

http://t.co/vh3cgAR6hW

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlipson/2013/04/19/a-film-producer-a-cancer-doctor-and-their-critics
Didymus Judas Thomas, Contributor

Musings on the intersection of Articles, Bias, and Censorship

(The Big 3: A.B.C.)

4/19/2013 @ 9:43PM

A Film Producer, A Cancer Doctor, And Their Critics

chriswinter 5 days ago

“As for Burzynski, if he had something real to show he would not lack for either peer-reviewed publications or mainstream funding.”

“But I guess the few clients he has are his only source of funding, and instead of peer-review and vindication he has to fall back on ads

chriswinter, also provides no evidence of knowledge of the subject-matter

Boris Ogon 6 days ago

(citing Angel of Life 6 days ago)

“I would be far more likely to invest in Burzynzki’s–innovative, not harmful, saves lives no-one else can!”

(Boris Ogon 6 days ago)

“I take it that by “not harmful” you mean “aside from the possibly life-threatening hypernatremia, not to mention edema and seizures” from just the sodium load in “antineoplastons.””

Mr. Ogon, of course, has had no response for this:

Burzynski: HYPERNATREMIA
https://stanislawrajmundburzynski.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/burzynski-hypernatremia
JGC2013 4 days ago

“There’s no clinical evidence that antineoplaston therapy is effective at treating advanced cancers.”

Where is the evidence that antineoplastons are non-harmful, or have been responsible for saving lives no one else could?

Burzynski hasn’t published any.

JGC2013, shows the same lack of knowledge as Mr. Ogon

guychapman 4 days ago

“Cut, poison, burn” is another bullshit meme from Gary Null.

“Apparently the woo-believers think people go to medical school motivated by the desire to kill people in the most unpleasant way possible, and the best and brightest don’t go to med school but instead graduate from unaccredited correspondence schools, if at all.”

Mr. guychapman (also known as Guy Chapman @ScepticGuy @vGuyUK), which unaccredited correspondence school did you graduate from, if any?

Boris Ogon

“You are right now having a live “debate” in front of more than 10,000 people, … “

3,727 views

Not so much

Waiting for the 10,000

4/19/2013 @ 9:43PM

Peter Lipson: “Speech is best countered by more speech”