August 15, 1935, A Day That Will Live In Infirmary

On that day, Oklahoman William Penn Adair “Will” Rogers departed from us, leaving America wondering who would be able to fill the shoes left by a man with the “gift of gab,” and full of such Wit and Wisdom?

Who would take his place ?

George Herbert Walker Bush:

“Read My Lips” “No New Taxes” ?

William (call me “Bill”) Jefferson Clinton:

“It Depends Upon What the Meaning of the Word “IS,” is” ?

George W. Bush:

The “Mission Accomplished” Speech ?

Barack Hussein Obama:

“Yes We Can” ?


The Magic 8-Ball appeared before HIM in a curling whisp of smoke, and HE stretched forth HIS hand, and spake to the “Oracolytes,” assembled before HIM thusly as a mighty milling herd of Sheeple


Supreme “Leader” of the “Oracolytes”

“Dr. David H. Gorski”
(@gorskon, @oracknows, @sciencebasedmed, #sciencebasedmedicine,
“Unlike Mr. Merola, I am indeed very concerned with getting my facts correct”
And the bleating that arose was tremendous in its force and power, deafening –

“the ignorant, the unthinking and the credulous.”‘

Many had to be immediately evacuated to the nearest infirmary to have their stitches removed, having been tied in stitches by laughter, yea, stitched to be tied

And so plods forward the “War on Cancer”

“Unlike Mr.Merola,I am…very concerned with getting my facts correct”


Paging Doctor David H. Gorski, Paging Doctor David H. Gorski: There’s Mud in your Ears … Doktor Gorski?

I’ve been very, very critical of a self-proclaimed “cancer researcher” named David H. Gorski, who is not a biologist but somehow has managed over the last few years to treat Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski as his own “Personalized mud-targeted therapy for dummies,” target


What else starts with the letter M” ?
Ahhh, med” in the state of Michigan”

Home of:

Talk to The Hand, Live in Michigan

What is Michigan also known for ?


Mud, you say ?

Yes … MUD

Mud beer
Mud bogs
Mud Bowl
Mud jam
Mud run

What is Michigan also known for ?

Wayne State University – School of Medicine

It is said that:

“Desperate times call for desperate measures”

Detroit is familiar with “desperate times” and “desperate measures”

Detroit, Michigan, has always been known as Motown

Perhaps Dr. David H. Gorski had mud in his ears when this was mentioned, and thought that what he really heard was:

“Detroit has always been known as Mudtown

And jumped at the chance to hone his “craft” at the:

Mudtown School of Mudicine

Oncologist, David Gorski, M.D. (@gorskon @oracknows
has the “Title” of:

“Assistant Professor of Surgery”

(Don’t worry Dr. Gorski, one day you “might” be a “real” Perfessor, like THIS:)
Specialty: Breast surgery, surgical oncology

Education and Training:
MD (1988): University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan

PhD (1994): Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio
Detroit Medical Center

Alexander J. Walt Comprehensive Breast Center

Primary Hospital: Karmanos Cancer Institute

Secondary Hospitals: Harper University Hospital


General Surgery, University Hospitals of Cleveland

(Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine), 1989-90 and 1993-96

One wonders why Dr. Gorski’s @youtube video of his “craft,” has “no stream”
Critiquing David H. Gorski – Quackademic Medicine:
Perhaps it’s because Dr. Gorski was not necessarily flattering with his descriptions of some of the institutions he’s been associated with, which could lead to some embarrassing situations, saaayyy … around the water cooler (or at any function(s) or reunion(s) involving any of them)

(Oopsie !)

In Practice Since: 1999

(So, about 14 years, nowhere close to as long as his “fave” subject: Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski)

Patient Appointment Scheduling:
Accepts New Patients: Yes
Accepts Children: No

(So, NO children patients, unlike his “fave” subject: Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski)

Search the School of Medicine

I figured that doing a search re “Gorski” and “ethics” should reveal some “interesting” results, considering that the inclusion of that term in a search including Gorski, would be oxymoronic

“About 7 results (0.38 seconds)”

“Prognosis E-News – Archive”
“Scientists receive Karmanos Strategic Research Initiative Grants for promising research”

“Originally posted on August 22, 2012”

“The Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute has announced the winners of its 2012 Strategic Research Initiative Grants, which fund innovative intra- and inter-programmatic projects, which exhibit great potential in leading to multi-investigator grants.”

“Winners of the $100,000 grants include:”

David Gorski, M.D., Ph.D., associate professor of Surgery and co-medical director of the Walt Comprehensive Breast Center, … “MicroRNA-130a: A potential biomarker and target in triple negative breast cancer.””

It is noteworthy that the Burzynski: Cancer Is Serious Business, Part II, Q&A session has a:
triple negative breast cancer
patient, as the last panelist, since Dr. Gorski’s $100,000 grant involves that very same subject-matter

With his interest in this area of study, one would think that perhaps Dr. Gorski came across Dr. Burzynski’s:

8/2011 – Successful Treatment of Recurrent Triple-Negative Breast Cancer with Combination of Targeted Therapies
Journal of Cancer Therapy, 2011, 2, 372-376

doi:10.4236/jct.2011.23050 Published Online August 2011

Since Dr. Burzynski is Dr. Gorski’s fave subject, surely Dr. Gorski has dug up some dirt with an internationally acclaimed

Mud dauber – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mud dauber (sometimes called “dirt dauber,” “dirt digger,” “dirt dobber,” “dirt diver “, or “mud wasp“)

(Mud wasp” NOT to be confused with the “mud White Anglo-Saxon Protestant)

and thrown as much mud at the wall as he could, in the hopes that some of it might stick

Is it HERE ?

Stanislaw Burzynski: “Personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy” for dummies
Posted by Orac on December 13, 2012

Is it HERE ?

Eric Merola and Stanislaw Burzynski’s secret weapon against The Skeptics™: Fabio Lanzoni (I kid you not)
Posted by Orac on April 30, 2013

Is it HERE ?

Eric Merola and Stanislaw Burzynski’s secret weapon against The Skeptics™: Fabio Lanzoni (Part 2)
Posted by Orac on May 8, 2013

Is it HERE ?

Deconstructing another Stanislaw Burzynski cancer “success story”
Posted by Orac on May 9, 2013

It looks like we have struck “pay- dirt”

(Just add water, Gorski)

“Last of all, there was another newcomer besides Fabio Lanzoni, a patient named Sheila Herron.”

“She is a woman who attributes her survival from metastatic triple negative breast cancer to Burzynski and recently has taken up engaging skeptics on Twitter.”

Gorski, does she have 3 Twitter accounts like YOU?

“Unfortunately, she also has a penchant for insulting them and even pulling a Godwin gambit.”

So, she’s been giving some of “The Skeptics,” some of their own “Mudicine,” you say?

“Indeed, on one occasion, she even called skeptics (myself included) “stormtroopers” and “fascists,” all the while equating criticism of Burzynski with attacking patients.”

Oh, my

Spunky, is she ?

Gorski, do NOT worry

No one who has been here any reasonable amount of time, is going to mistake you for an actual “stormtrooper” and / or “fascist

The last thing that’s going to happen is for you to be running around in a white hospital uniform, yelling in a Germanic accent:

Shtand shtill so vat I can hurl vish vater-saturated Michigan dirt at-chung!!!

“None of this is surprising.”

No, it’s NOT, Herr Doktor

Once you opened your mouth, it was all “Muddy Waters” afterwards

“As I’ve said before, it’s really how a lot of Burzynski patients see us.”

“It’s also, as I’ve noted before, how antivaccinationists see us as well.”

Gorski, spare us another one of your “Mud Kampf’s:
“In any case, I don’t find her story as much of a slam-dunk piece of evidence that Burzynski can cure triple negative breast cancer, but that might be fodder for another post.”
As comedian Jeff Ross would say: “Too Soon?
“Suffice to say, I think that surgery probably cured her, but that’s all I’ll say for now.”

“Finally, running throughout the entire panel was an intense hatred for skeptics.”

“The hostility in the room must have been palpable for one skeptic, Bruce Gleason, who entered the lions’ den.”

“Unfortunately, he screwed up.”

“Big time.”

“He got up (see around 16:10) and said how he had been convinced and that he would now recommend Merola’s film to the 1,000 members of his Orange County skeptic organization.”

Gorski, there’s a reason everyone reading your muddled mud cakes should FACT-CHECK EVERY mud pitch you throw out

“I have over a thousand people in my group in Orange County … and … I think that I’m going to recommend this movie to all of them”
“He also tried to distance himself from “those” skeptics apparently portrayed in the film.”
“I know that there is a a skeptic that was introduced in your film … which I am appalled by the skeptic myself “

“It was, I hate to say, a rather nauseating performance.”

Gorski, what is the most “nauseating performance” is the mud pie you sent to Bruce Gleason

“Fortunately for Gleason and greatly to his credit, he soon realized his error and three days later wrote a post admitting his mistake, thus mostly redeeming himself.”

Gorski, great job of slapping your new skeptic “friend” down, and then trying to build him back up

Maybe you should pull your surgical blade out of Bruce’s back

With “friends” like you, who needs “frienemies“?

“As soon as a couple of skeptics calmly explained things to Gleason, he realized his error, something I suspect that Merola will never do.”

Gorski, I’m sure that if Merola wants the opinion of a jackass, he knows how to get in touch with you:
“Merola, not surprisingly, was completely intellectually dishonest and never mentioned this “recantation” of his “conversion” in the video.”

Gorski, maybe Eric had a “premonition” that I would return my attention to one bottom-feeding mud cat, or maybe he was suspicious of any story having anything to do with a skeptic doing something after 3 days
“Instead, he left Gleason’s appearance in the video uncommented upon.”

Do NOT worry, Gorski

I posted comments to Bruce Gleason’s backyardskeptics blog, and my comments on “Gleason’s appearance in the video, remain uncommented upon.”

Oh,” you say, “but there are only 3 comments on Bruce Gleason’s Backyard Skeptics blog, and none of them is yours

That’s right, Gorski

Did Bruce learn from you, how to be a “SkeptiCoward“?
“The last 15 minutes of the film had a lot more hostility towards skeptics, beginning with Fabio saying this:”

“You know, if you are still skeptical, in my book you are ignorant, because, I’m telling you, what’s count is action.”


Gorski, speaking of “ignorant“…

“The U.S. v. Article’~ court stated that the FDA’s responsibility was to protect the ultimate consumer, which included protection of “the ignorant, the unthinking and the credulous.”‘

“the ignorant,

the unthinking

and the credulous.”‘

Gorski, which are YOU ?

“Well, in what is perhaps the most amusing exaggeration, a talking point no doubt fed straight from Stanislaw Burzynski to Eric Merola to Fabio Lanzoni, Fabio declares that Burzynski submitted “two and a half million pages” of clinical trials to the FDA and demands, “What more do they want of him?”

“Well, some real science indicating that antineoplastons have significant anti-tumor activity against the cancers tested, as well as full reports of the results of actual clinical trials showing outcomes data would be nice.”

Gorski, what difference would it make ?

You are such a coward that you do nothing but make excuse after excuse upon excuses for NOT doing “in-depth” reviews of Dr. Burzynski’s 2003-onward phase 2 clinical trials preliminary reports

FauxSkeptic (@FauxSkeptic) tweeted at 7:01am – 24 May 13:
🚫”The Skeptics:”🚫
Where is your😶”in-depth”😶
review of #Burzynski?
Drugs R D.
Ohhh…You dont publish?«←
FauxSkeptic (@FauxSkeptic) tweeted at 10:28am – 24 May 13:
🚫”The Skeptics:”🚫
Where is your😶”in-depth”😶 review of #Burzynski?
2006 Mar;5(1):40-7
Ohhh…You dont publish?«←
FauxSkeptic (@FauxSkeptic) tweeted at 1:02pm – 24 May 13:

“Later, Fabio lambastes skeptics some more:”

“If the FDA couldn’t find this much on this guy, you think just a regular skeptic’s going to find something?”

“And plus, all the skeptics out there.”

“Who they are?”

“Probably people —I tell you, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out—or they’re people being paid by the pharmaceutical industry.”

“Or they are people with no life.”

“So my advice to them:”

“Get a life.”

“You know.”

“Get a life.”

“Dr. Burzynski is busy saving lives.”








“Yes, he really said that and really did emphasize the last sentence.”

“Go to 38:20 if you don’t believe me and see it for yourself.”

“Seeing Fabio’s demeanor and hearing his intonations will make you appreciate that what he said was far more insulting and offensive than mere words typed on a blog can adequately convey.”

“So, in one brief paragraph, we have Fabio using the pharma shill gambit, a blatant use of the logical fallacy known as poisoning the well, along with just plain insults, in which he portrays skeptics not-so-subtly as basement dwelling young adults who aren’t married, don’t have any children, and are basically, unlike the apparent magnificence that is Fabio, geeks, nerds, dorks, pointy-headed science types.”

“In brief, Fabio played a stereotypical jock dismissing intellectuals as losers who don’t understand the real world.”

“Well, guess what?”

“Even if all of that were true, it wouldn’t invalidate the arguments against Burzynski.”

Gorski, are you referring to the “arguments against Burzynski” which “The Skeptics” refuse to Defend:?
“I suppose I should be grateful to some extent, though, that Fabio restrained himself from likening Burzynski patients and families to rape victims being told they have to rally for stronger laws against rape, an analogy that Steve Siegel used (at around 45:45).”

“Oh, sure, he apologizes for the poor analogy, but then he goes and uses the rape analogy analogy anyway.”

“That analogy isn’t just a poor analogy; it’s highly offensive.”

“A few minutes later (48:45), Siegel says:”

“We have been under such pressure from the skeptics, and patients are literally losing time, not going to see Burzynski, wasting time.”

“Children are not getting to see him.”

“You can join us on Twitter @BurzynskiSaves, where a number of us are speaking back to the skeptics, because there’s a lot of negativity up there.”

“That’s right.”

“According to Steve Siegel, skeptics are killing cancer patients and babies!”

“So, I guess that means we must be a double evil:”

“Wasting The Great Man’s time and forcing him to swat at fleas and at the same time killing patients.”

“Yes, this is the message that Merola is promoting through these Burzynski patients.”

“It’s utterly despicable, of course, a tactic compared (quite appropriately, I think) to using cancer patients as human shields against criticism.”

Gorski, let me advise you as to what is “utterly despicable

Utterly despicable” is when, in the Twenty-First Century, an “alleged” oncologist launches as much mud as possible at a biologist, in the hopes that some of it might stick, seemingly forgetting that the Eighteenth Century was the:

Age of Enlightenment – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia…/Age_of_Enlightenment
(or simply the Enlightenment or Age of Reason)

and Gorski now wants to reverse everything that has been achieved since then, and resort to “mudraking;” NOT to be confused with “muckraking,” a concept which Gorski seems unable to grasp

Gorski is:

“The Metastasis of MisDisInformation”

“The Doctor of Dissimulation”

“As I said, all grandiose, and not particularly rooted in reality.”

Gorski, that’s an excellent explanation of yourself

“It’s an effort that will probably fail, largely because Burzynski’s followers are relatively few and made up of mostly cranks.”

Gorski, I know from personal experience that your research is, shall I say, “piss-poor

ALIVE Documentary Award, New York

2010 – Accolade in Excelence Award, Honolulu, Hawaii

2010 – Newport Beach Film Festival, California: Humanitarian Vision Award

2011 – Moondance International Film Festival: Feature Documentary Film Semi-Finalist

2011 – Winner! National Audience Award, HumanDoc Festival, Warsaw, Poland

2011 – Winner! Warsaw Audience Award, HumanDoc Festival, Warsaw, Poland

2011 – Winner! Audience Award Best Documentary! documentary channel: Documentary Channel Best of Doc Award, 2011

Gorski, keep believing your “LIES,” if that’s what helps get you through each day
“Indeed, consistent with the crank nature of the movement, Fabio even repeatedly issued challenges for a debate on live television with him and Burzynski on one side and a skeptics or skeptics on the other side, a favored crank ploy that I wrote about just a couple of weeks ago, when antivaccinationist Andrew Wakefield used it.”

“Let me tell you that it was a challenge that almost made me think about violating my general personal rule that I don’t debate cranks.”

Gorski makes excuses for NOT debating issues publicly:
Then he makes excuses for NOT debating issues on-line:
Bottom Line:

Dr. David H. Gorski IS an unabashed SkeptiCoward™
If I were a student or parent of a student attending Wayne State University – School of Medicine, I would NOT want any educational ties with Gorski, since I would be concerned that his teaching style “mirrors” his blog style

What kind of an individual with a “fragile eggshell mind,” is so egomaniacal that they think that those of us who remember the past are condemned to repeat it?

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Remark attributed to Abraham Lincoln

“In any case, lacking any compelling clinical trial data (or at least, never having published a completed phase 2 clinical trial), despite having registered over 60 such trials, …”

Gorski, again, brings out this old, dank, tired, dirt-clod, and tries to heave it again

It is obvious on its face as to why Gorski booted me off his blog

Gorski is a coward, and a “little man

I showed Gorski and his “Oracolytes” were on the leading edge of:





in support of their:






“So it was that when I wrote about Fabio Lanzoni teaming up with Eric Merola to promote Stanislaw Burzynski, multiple people asked me about a new patient, one who appeared for the first time in a Burzynski advertisement—excuse me, Q&A by Eric Merola.”

“This is a patient who of late has been very active on Twitter both attacking Burzynski critics and singing the praises of Stanislaw Burzynski, all the while touting how Burzynski cured her stage IV triple negative breast cancer.”

“She has also recently become one of the main users of the @BurzynskiSaves Twitter account, which formerly was run by someone whom many Burzynski critics suspected to be an employee of the Burzynski Clinic but was recently apparently handed off to a cadre of Burzynski patients, as revealed in Merola’s last video.”

“Clearly, she is a new recruit to the patients whose testimonials Burzynski and Merola use to promote the Burzynski Clinic.”

“Her story, that Burzynski saved her from stage IV triple negative breast cancer, seems very compelling at first glance.”

“But is it?”

“It is with a bit of trepidation that I tackle this case, because, no matter how careful, respectful, and nuanced I am, I can reasonably expect that I will be accused of “attacking” this patient.”

“It is even possible that someone will call my university again to complain about me.”

Gorski, someone should call and ask if you are as incompetent there as you are here

“Of course, I’m doing nothing of the sort and have no doubt that this patient genuinely believes that Burzynski saved her.”

“My analysis of her anecdote, however, leads me to believe that she is probably not correct in attributing her survival to Burzynski.”

“I also know that to a patient who is not an expert in cancer, a story like hers can seem all the world as though Burzynski really did save her and realize that I’m not going to change this patient’s mind, no matter what I say.”

Gorski, are you an “expert in cancer” ?

“She was diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer three years ago, and that happens to be my area of specialty.”

So, now we are getting somewhere

Cancer research is NOT your “area of specialty

“Triple negative breast cancer is an aggressive subtype of breast cancer that lacks hormone receptors or the HER2 receptor.”

“Stage for stage, it tends to have a worse prognosis, with a higher recurrence rate and lower survival rate.”

Worse, contrary to hormone receptor positive breast cancer, which can be treated with Tamoxifen or aromatase inhibitors (drugs that block the action of estrogen) or HER2-positive tumors, which can be treated like Herceptin, triple negative breast cancer has no molecular targets for therapy that have been identified and validated yet.

“As a result cytotoxic chemotherapy is the only systemic treatment.”

“It turns out that triple negative breast cancer is often very sensitive to chemotherapy—more so than estrogen receptor-positive cancers, by and large; the problem is that it rapidly develops resistance.”

“So what’s Ms. Herron’s story? The official version is recounted at—where else?—the Burzynski Patient Group’s website.”

“There’s also a version of her story on Cancer Compass, which touts itself as a website that advocates the use of alternative cancer therapies.”

” (No kidding.)”

“On the Burzynski Patient Group website, the story is told thusly:”

“In Nov. 2009 I developed pneumonia and had a chest x-ray which showed a mass on the left upper lobe of my lung.”

” This proved to be cancer.”

“The PET scan leading up to the lung surgery, showed masses in my breasts.”

I had a left upper lobectomy in Nov. 2009, and bilateral mastectomies with reconstruction in Feb. 2010.”

“I chose to take the holistic route, as I have seen the ravages that traditional chemotherapy inflict on the human body in the patients I have cared for.”

” I will attach the link to the “Cancer Note” I wrote on Facebook which describes the steps I took to build up my immune system.”

” (Let me know if the link doesn’t work, and I will cut and paste it to you.”

“A few weeks ago I had a local recurrence of my breast cancer and had surgery to remove it.”

“This led me to call the Burzynski Clinic”

“It’s not entirely clear from the account above (at least not to me) whether Ms. Herron had an early stage lung cancer successfully treated surgically and then was soon after diagnosed with breast cancer

“(in other words, had two independent primary tumors, each successfully treated with surgery)”

“or whether her lung cancer was actually a metastasis from her breast cancer that was resected, followed by her diagnosis with breast cancer and successful surgical treatment”

“(i.e., stage 4 disease).”

“Her Cancer Compass account doesn’t help in this regard, as it concentrates only on her treatment with Burzynski”

“(and, as we will see, a whole lot of other woo),”

“and her initial treatment was before she found her way to the Burzynski Clinic, although she does say she has “thanked my cancers (lung and breast) for all they have taught me, and have told them they can leave now,” which sounds as though she had a lung cancer and a breast cancer.”

“A little deeper digging was required.”

“It turns out that there is more information on this part of Ms. Herron’s treatment odyssey on Facebook, contemporaneously dated April 2010.”

“In a comment, she writes:”

“My cancers were discovered in Nov. 2009.”

“By MIRACULOUS good luck I got the flu (probably H1N1).”

” I got pneumonia, went to urgent care and they did a chest x-ray, which showed a mass on my left upper lobe.

“I had a CT the next day, a thoracic surgeon consult 3 days after that, then a CT guided biopsy, a PET scan and a pulmonary function study done in the 3 days after that, and the next week had a mediastinoscopy/bronchoscopy and video assisted left upper lobectomy”

“(12 days after the first x-ray- an example of the allegedly “terrible” healthcare system we have.”

“In Canada I might just now be seeing the thoracic surgeon or having the PET scan.”

“I am SOOOOO grateful to live here!!!).”

“The PET scan I had (where they inject radioactive sugar and do a CT looking for metastastis) showed no lung metastasis, but a weird area on my left breast.”

“After I recovered from the lung surgery, I had a mammogram, and an ultrasound guided biopsy”

“(it turned out to be another, seperate cancer from the lung).”

“I then had an MRI and underwent bilateral mastectomies with reconstruction in Feb…”

“My final reconstruction surgery will be May 4th- the new and improved me, breast cancer free.”

“What a miracle that flu was!!!!!”

“I would have been walking around oblivious to both cancers if I hadn’t needed that initial chest x-ray for the flu.”

” My breast cancer turned out to be in both breasts as well.”

“Amazing!! It never showed up on mammograms, (35% of breast tumors don’t- surprise to me!)”

“I am taking the naturopathic route vs/ chemo/radiation and am doing great.”

“There is SOOOOOO much we can do to help our incredible immune systems heal our bodies and/ OR (preferably) STAY healthy!!”

“I was certainly not paying attention, or taking care of my body before this happened.”

“I AM now.”

“In a comment made on the Burzynski Scam blog, Herron writes”

“(you’ll need to scroll down a bit):”

“I was diagnosed with Adenocarcinoma of the left upper lobe of my lung in Nov. 2009, and had a lobectomy.”

“The pre-op PET scan found my breast cancer, which turned out to be Stage III triple negative invasive ductal carcinoma.”

“I went the naturopathic route vs/ chemo and radiation, because as an RN for 34 years, I have seen the ravages the traditional route can cause.”

“This clarifies things.”

“Up to this point, these accounts are most consistent with two separate primaries, one an adenocarcinoma of the lung, which was resected thoracoscopically, and a second cancer in the left breast, arising from the breast.”

“Consequently, up until this point, what we most likely have is a woman who was unfortunate enough to have two different cancers in two different organs, but fortunate enough that both of them were sufficiently early stage that they could be successfully resected surgically.”

“Like so many testimonials I’ve discussed before, she refused chemotherapy and radiation in favor of lots and lots of woo, including naturopathy, massive changes in diet, green tea, juicing, Resveratol, reiki, “detox,” and acupuncture.”

“(And that’s not all.)”

“As is so frequently the case, by refusing adjuvant chemotherapy and radiation, which are the “icing on the cake” for surgery in breast cancer that decrease the chance of recurrence, she decreased her chance of survival.”

“I did a bit of prognosticating using Adjuvant! Online, which allows me to estimate 10 year survival rates for cancers with various characteristics.”

“If Ms. Herron had a stage III cancer, that means it was either rather large (greater than 5 cm), had a lot of positive lymph nodes, or both.”

“According to Adjuvant!

Online estimation, a patient with a stage III triple negative cancer treated with surgery alone has, depending on the specific features of the tumor, between a 24% and 57% chance of being alive in 10 years.”

(I ran the estimate using the worse features I could think of consistent with a stage III triple negative cancer, ran it again with the most favorable features I could think of, using an estimate of Ms. Herron’s age to be around 58 based on her time in nursing.)”

“Sure, those odds aren’t fantastic, and I doubt she’s at the 57% end of the scale, but even though Ms. Herron’s odds were most likely less than 50-50 without adjuvant chemotherapy, they weren’t so horrible that it would be considered highly unusual or rare for her to have survived.”

“So why did she go to the Burzynski Clinic?”

“She tells the tale in multiple places.”

“First, here’s a continuation of the account on the Burzynski Scam blog:”

“I developed a small localized recurrence in Aug. 2011.”

“After surgery, I went to the Burzynski Clinic in Sept. 2011.”

“They ordered a PET scan which discovered my T-2 spinal metastasis.”

“I started on his treatment and was followed up by an oncologist near me who works with Dr, Burzynski for my monthly labs and an injection.”

“Twelve weeks, almost to the day of starting his treatment, my cancer was gone, as verified by my follow up PET scan Dec. 22, 2011.”

“The radiologist had the before and after films up and showed me that it was all gone and that “there is no active cancer anywhere”.”

“This treatment had no side effects, I did not lose my hair, and my monthly labs remained normal.”

“How many other cancer treatments out there can say this”

” NONE!!!”

“And on the Burzynski Patient Group website:”

“I was encouraged to stay a few more days.”

“A whirlwind of actions occurred the next 2 1/2 days.”

“I had thorough blood and urine work-ups, as well as an echo-cardiogram and a PET scan, which was miraculous, for the PET scan showed a metastasis to T-2 on my spine.”

I was started on his medication on the first day and then low dose chemo for my metastasis and an injectable to keep my bone strong and prevent further metastasis.”

“It is a miracle!!”

“I would not have known about this situation until it had spread further, or until, possibly, my spine had a pathological fracture, which, that high up, could have caused quadriplegic, so I can, and I DO, say that Dr. B and his team have already saved my life by finding this tumor and getting me on their gene targeted regimen to remove it.”

“So about a year and a half after Ms. Herron’s radical surgery rendered her disease-free, she developed a local recurrence.”

“This is unfortunate.”

0We also don’t know for sure whether she underwent radiation therapy, although the story sounds very much as though she did not.”

“Radiation therapy is indicated after surgery for a stage III breast cancer, because that can greatly decrease the risk of a local recurrence, even after a mastectomy.”

“In any case, this recurrence must have been small, localized, and amenable to resection with a wide margin.”

“In this, Ms. Herron was again fortunate, because all too frequently chest wall recurrences like hers presage metastatic disease, and all too often they tend to be too extensive to be amenable to a simple surgical excision.”

“But, wait, you say.”

“Wasn’t the spine lesion on PET metastatic disease?”

“The answer to that question is:”


“We don’t know.”

“Why do I say that?”

“The reason is simple.”

“As far as I can tell, there was never a tissue diagnosis to prove that that T2 lesion was in fact metastatic disease to the spine.”

Most oncologists will not treat a breast cancer patient for metastatic disease without first doing everything within reason to obtain a biopsy and thus proof that the lesion is a metastasis.”

“Just as important, tissue allows the oncologist to look at markers; sometimes estrogen receptor-positive tumors turn negative as they metastasize or sometimes the HER2 status changes.”

“Such information is very useful for planning therapy, rather than just basing additional therapy on the original surgical specimen.”

“I’ve looked around, and nowhere have I been able to find an account of Ms. Herron’s treatment in which Burzynski got a biopsy of the spinal lesion before initiating treatment.”

“PET scans can be misleading; they can have a not insignificant false positive rate.”

“Actually, in fact, depending upon the clinical situation, they can have a high false positive rate.”

“There are lesions on PET that can mimic metastasis.”

“For instance, fibrous dysplasia of the bone can mimic skeletal metastases, as can osteonecrosis, inflammatory lesions, and others.”

“Quite frequently, these lesions disappear when a patient is rescanned a few months later.”

“True, there are exceptions to the “tissue rule,” such as if it’s unsafe to biopsy due to location or patient comorbid conditions or if the lesion is so characteristic on an MRI or CT of the involved vertebrae that there is no doubt.”

“(One notes that no mention of imaging of the spine is made other than the PET scan.)”

“Even accepting those exceptions, a tissue diagnosis would still be essential, especially in this case, before starting treatment of bone metastases.”

“Remember, this is a patient who apparently had two different cancers diagnosed three and a half years ago.”

“Although less likely than breast, the spine metastasis, if it was real, could have been lung cancer.”

“However, despite every indication for obtaining a tissue diagnosis, as far as I can tell Burzynski apparently never got a biopsy of the lesion detected on PET scan before beginning treatment in order to confirm metastatic disease and identify tissue type.”

“In retrospect, given the clinical behavior of this “metastasis,” most likely what happened is that Burzynski treated a false positive PET lesion, and it did what nearly all false positive PET lesions do:”

“It disappeared within a few months.”

“Alternatively, it is possible that this lesion was a metastasis and that the chemotherapy that Burzynski administered shrank the tumor to microscopic disease, but, most likely, did not eliminate it entirely.”

“Personally, I’d prefer the first possibility over the second.”

“No, the reason is not because it would mean that Burzynski’s “personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy” doesn’t work, but because the first possibility would imply a good chance of long term survival for Ms. Herron”

“The second possibility would be much less favorable for her; it would mean that, sooner or later, her cancer will likely recur.”

” I do not want that to be the case.”

“Regardless of my wishes and whatever the case really is, without a report of a tissue diagnosis, it’s impossible to distinguish between the two possibilities”

“The point, of course, is that Ms. Herron’s case, like virtually every other Burzynski patient case I’ve analyzed, is not convincing evidence for an antitumor effect due to Burzynski’s treatment, although it is also possible that her story could mean an antitumor effect due to Burzynski’s “everything but the kitchen sink” approach to combining chemotherapy and targeted therapies.”

“As is always the case whenever Burzynski mixes and matches chemotherapy and targeted therapies, he might have gotten lucky, and Ms. Herron’s tumor was responsive to the cocktail.”

“Without a lot more information, we just can’t tell which possibility is most likely.”

“We can tell, however, that it’s unlikely that Burzynski is the cause of Ms. Herron’s good fortune.”

“Finally, Ms. Herron is not undergoing antineoplaston therapy, but rather Burzynski’s “gene-targeted therapy.””

“This led me to wonder:”

“On what basis is he “targeting” his therapy?”

“As I’ve recounted before, Burzynski usually sends off blood and tissue samples to Caris for testing.”

“The Caris Target Now™ test, which since my discussion of Burzynski’s “personalized therapy” appears to have been renamed Caris Molecular Intelligence and is now available at more levels of service”

“(although its reports look much the same to me),”

“is nothing unique to the Burzynski Clinic.”

“Anyone who is willing to pay for it can have it, and the report will be the same.”

“Given that Burzynski appears not to have gotten tissue before treating Ms. Herron, what did he send to Caris for testing?”

“Maybe he sent blocks from her original tumor.”

“Who knows?”

“In any event, there is as yet no convincing evidence that the Caris tests (or any of the other competing tests) result in better outcomes.”

“I’d like to conclude by saying that I wish Ms. Herron well.”

“Really, I do, despite her intemperate behavior on Twitter.”

“That’s actually why I hope that Burzynski really did treat a false positive PET lesion, because that explanation for her good fortune would be most consistent with its continuing indefinitely, in contrast to an actual treatment effect, which would imply eventual relapse.”

“When it comes to Burzynski, on the other hand, I’m not nearly so benevolent.”

“In my ever-Insolent opinion, he and his propagandist Eric Merola are cynically using patients like Ms. Herron as human shields to deflect criticism.”

“I can put up with a lot from cancer patients, even Burzynski cancer patients, and never respond in kind.”

“Burzynski’s activities I cannot countenance.”

Prognosis E-News – Archive

…. Tune to WJR (760 AM) from 8:10 to 8:30 a.m. Oct. 3 to [listen to David Gorski, …
WJR’s Warren Pierce to interview Dr. David Gorski this Sunday

Originally posted on September 30, 2010

Tune to WJR (760 AM) from 8:10 to 8:30 a.m. Oct. 3 to listen to David Gorski, M.D., Ph.D., associate professor of Surgery for the Wayne State University School of Medicine and co-leader of the Breast Cancer Multidisciplinary Group and Breast Cancer Biology Program at Karmanos Cancer Institute, and breast cancer survivor Lillie Manns as they take part in a panel discussion about the disease with on-air personality Warren Pierce.

The broadcast is being done in observance of October as Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

Dr. Gorski will discuss the latest controversy about mammography screening guidelines based on two recent Scandinavian studies, as well as general information about breast cancer.

Manns, a Karmanos patient taking part in a clinical trial under the guidance of Patricia LoRusso, D.O., professor of Internal Medicine at the School of Medicine, will talk about her own experience with breast cancer.

Ahhh … anecdote

The third panelist is Mary Flynn, Ph.D., a nutrition researcher from Brown University, who will discuss the importance of good nutrition to prevent and fight the disease.

emulate Eric Merola ?

Gorski, NO mention whatsoever of Dr. Burzynski’s “Triple negative breast cancer” publication ?

I thought you were a “cancer researcher

I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors, and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
Abraham Lincoln: Letter to Horace Greeley, Aug. 22, 1862.

What a Memorable Day

Shall We Play A Game? “The Skeptics” (SkeptiCowards) vs. “The Skeptics'” Critics #Burzynski The 1st ever “LIE OFF”

It is the first ever “LIE OFF”


1. One (1) “LIE” per Tweet (or blog comment)

2. You may use the same link to refer to additional “LIES” (One (1) at a time)

3. The “LIE” MUST be supported by “FACTS” (Citation(s), Reference(s), and / or Link(s)) – I realize that having to rely on “FACTS” may put many of “The Skeptics” at a perceived “disadvantage,” since many of them are so used to getting away with unsubstantiated vitriolic comments (Example: See

4. The “alleged” “LIAR” may contest their exalted position (One (1) issue at a time)

5. You may have to pull an Anthony Jeselnik, and “Defend Your Tweet” (One (1) issue at a time)

6. Score will be kept of the “LIES

7. All “LIES” are binding and are the responsibility of the “LIAR” (This contest is in no way affiliated with Anthony Jeselnik or Comedy Central … maybe … that could be a “LIE“)

*The small print is important. This is NOT a “Pissing” Contest. Pissers will be perfunctorily penalized and Pissed OFF (Rules are subject to being changed arbitrarily and capriciously; something “The Skeptics” have an intimately familiar relationship with)

Have a Nice Day

Remember kids, this WikipediAin’t The People’s Court;” (Doug Llewelyn is NOT looking over your shoulder) you CAN take “The LIE” into your own hands

So don’t get “Pissed OFF,” get the “Lie Off


“The Skeptics” (SkeptiCowards)

1. 5/23/2013 – Dr. David H. Gorski
2. 5/23/2013 – Dr. David H. Gorski
3. 5/24/2013 – Guy Chapman
4. 5/25/2013 – Guy Chapman
5. 5/29/2013 – dougal445

The Skeptics” Critics


1. David Gorski (@gorskon) tweeted at 12:44pm – 30 Mar 13:

NO, Dr. Gorski, you have NOT “deconstructed his “evidence” in depth before”
Burzynski: Cancer Is Serious Business (Part I) consists of the documentary; as well as the documents on the movie web-site, which you have NOT “deconstructed … in depth before”
David Gorski (@gorskon)
5/23/13, 9:32 AM
@FauxSkeptic No need to defend my Tweet. The defense is in the link.
2013-05-23 16:45:18

is NOT:”deconstructed his”evidence”in depth…”


AllUrBaseRbelong2us (@AllUrBaseRBe2us)
5/23/13, 8:15 PM
U tweeted4/20/13
Defend tweet😅

3. FauxSkeptic (@FauxSkeptic)
5/24/13, 12:33 PM
🚫”The Skeptics” @vGuyUK,🚫
you blahgged at:📄
Defend your twit:😅

4. ☆AnthonyJeselnik:☆
you blahgged at:📄
Defend your twit:😅

5. @dougal445 tweeted at 1:16am-19 Apr 13:
Defend Your Tweet: