Stanislaw Rajmund Burzynski, Stanislaw R. Burzynski, Stanislaw Burzynski, Stan R. Burzynski, Stan Burzynski, S. R. BURZYNSKI, S. Burzynski, Arthur Burzynski, Hippocrates Hypocrite Hypocrites Critic Critics Critical HipoCritical
—————————————————————— Gumbygiveth, and Gumbysayeth away
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The Spinning Bowel Movement(SBM)masticulation which emanates from the breadth and width of the National Geographic(#NatGeo)Geeosphere of Respectful IsNoSense, is such, it requires that “words be combined” and “new words be created” in order to elucidate the effluencerunning through the collective soul of the Vulcan MindMeldLess masses
====================================== #31 – Narad – 11/16/2013 [1]
—————————————————————— “Best accidental tipoff I’ve noticed from the Scamway PR machine, courtesy Josephine Jones (PDF):”
—————————————————————— “Once your treatment plan has been fulfilled, you will be discharged from the clinic and will return home to continue treatment with the assistance of your local physician(s)”
“This rather clearly does not mean “by us.”
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—————————————————————— Nary a rational answer deducible
Narad, the Hero of the Zeroes, acks as if some great mystery has just been unmasked before the unmindfulcrevmasses
A hole in the head, A hole in the head, When he’s reincarnated, He wants his name to be Zeb
We, the sheeple
What ?
Wyatt ?
We are familsheep
====================================== #29 – The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge – 11/18/2013 [2]
—————————————————————— “Has anybody been monitoring DJT?”
“Has he gotten Medieval on USA Today’s ass yet?”
—————————————————————— SeriouExcuseMe, but if you chose “The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge” as your pseudonym, and this was the bestion you could acks, you must not be the “sharpest”Toolhacking at the “tree of stupendity
You’re no Right Rev’rend Leviticus Fall, well
—————————————————————— #30 – Lawrence – 11/18/2013
—————————————————————— “@TVRBA – oh, I guess I’ve made him angry…..lol….”
——————————————————————
Hardly, NoBardly[3]
If USA TODAY needed a Troll to take up a 3rd of the Facebook comments on Liz Szabo’sfabled fish tale, you were the perfect “Mark McAndrew is Trollolo”[4] to Trollolo all over there, as none of “The Skeptics™” probably would have come within a 10-foot pole of touching your nonSeance, when you intimated that you “talked to the dead”, and they chose you, of all sheeple, to
Look at the church, See the steeple? Open the doors, See all “The Skeptics™” sheeple ?
—————————————————————— #33 – Narad – 11/18/2013
—————————————————————— “oh, I guess I’ve made him angry…..lol….”
—————————————————————— “I seem to be missing the part where he demonstrates the 18 CENSORED COMMENTS bit, but at least there’s the consolation of the deranged meltdown itself”
““I’ll show them!!!”
“I’ll POST DOZENS OF PICTURES OF MY PHONE FOR NO APPARENT REASON!!!”
“AAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!””
——————————————————————
The biggest gap in genius on GorskiGeek’sblogs, is that there is no “I” in genus, ever since GorskGeekgaffed by going Gabroni gambit
Why NearDoWell seems “to be missing the part where he demonstrates the 18 CENSORED COMMENTS bit”, is because grasping the concept of selecting (clicking on) a link, is something nonnative to Narad’sknowledge
[5]
Not a really astute display
of Science-Based Medicine
I did NOT“post dozens of pictures OF MY PHONE“
However, I DID post dozens of pictures of your dunderheaded display of dummkopfedness
—————————————————————— #35 – Lawrence – 11/18/2013
—————————————————————— “@Narad – I didn’t realize I quoted quite so well…..double the pleasure, double the fun!”
——————————————————————
In your defense, I daresay the difference is definitely:
Double the Dumb
—————————————————————— #12 – AntipodeanChic – 11/22/2013
—————————————————————— “I have to wonder now whether my liver is missing a peptide or two…”
“Slightly OT for this thread, but the other day I was finally able to make myself watch “Hannah’s Anecdote”“
“I presume I’m not the only one who shuddered at the cavalier back-room insertion of her Hickman catheter”
“I’m afraid I couldn’t really discern any adequate sterile field & I have NEVER heard of these kinds of lines being inserted while the patient is only mildly sedated“
“I’m surprised sepsis doesn’t take out more of Dr. B’s patients than the toxicity does”
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It’s not your liver you should be concerned about
I’m surprisedstupendity doesn’t take out more of Dr. G’spundits than the errors do [6]
One would have hoped that AntiPoorSceneCheck would have been be able to get away from the popcorn and Science-Biased Mudicine, but instead, if she ever saw a “fact”, she did NOT do the double-checkChic
—————————————————————— Day Three(7:44)
—————————————————————— “Yeah
Inject sugar and then you’re also having a, this Hickman line fitted”
“Yeah”
“Yeah”
—————————————————————— Day Three(9:28)
—————————————————————— “Right”
“So uh were just getting ready now for Hannah to go in and have her PET scan and uh catheter Hickman line fitted and she’s just filling in the form”
—————————————————————— Day Three(9:48)
—————————————————————— (?)
(laughing)“You’ve just taken some , some Valium as well, have you ?”
(as much local anesthetic as could give her w/o knocking her out)
catheter – Hickman line
(painful / really painful)
—————————————————————— Day Three(10:04)
—————————————————————— “What I’m doing is I’m creating a little tunnel under the skin
So I have to use just a little bit of pressure
So if I hurt you, you tell me
Ok”?
“How are you feeling”?
“Shhh”
(laugh)
—————————————————————— Day Three(10:30)
—————————————————————— “Did, did, did you feel that when it was going in and stuff” ?
“Not really”
“Little bit
It’s a little bit painful now”?
“Yeah
It’s quite really painful now
Yeah”
—————————————————————— Day Four(10:52)
—————————————————————— “I’m feeling wrecked, absolutely wrecked”
(laugh) “Well you had, bit of Valium yesterday”
“Yeah”
“And you had as much um local anesthetic”
“Yep”
“as he could give you he said, without knocking you out”
“Yeah”
—————————————————————— Day Four(11:23)
—————————————————————— #31 – Stupendous Stupendity Stupifies Scienceblogs . com/Insolence | Didymus Judas Thomas’ Hipocritical Oath Blog November25, 2013
[…] http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/11/22/is-anyone-attending-the-4th-quadrennial-meeting-of-the-… […]
—————————————————————— #32 – eNOS – holed up in the lab for Thanksgiving – 11/25/2013
—————————————————————— “OT..sort of, but I was feeling particularly self-flagellating this afternoon so I clicked the DJT linkout (or whatever its called) at #31″
“Wow”
“Either I can’t find whatever point it’s making, or that’s just timecube-level crazy”
“Carry on”
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This should NOT come as any surprise, as eNOS is NOVal Venus
eNOS probably can NOT even figure out where Robert J. (don’t call me “Bobby”) Bob (I’m NOT a doctor, I just play like I’m one on The Other Burzynski Patient Group(TOBPG))BlaskiewiczBlatherskitewicz, is, and I’ve known for quite some time now that Bob has his head so far up Dr. David H. Gorski a/k/a “Orac” a/k/a GorskGeek’sASStroturf campaign, that he should be the spokesmodel for “The Chocolate Thunder from Down Under”
—————————————————————— #33 –Lawrence – 11/25/2013
—————————————————————— “@eNOS – I don’t believe there is a rational bone in that guy’s body…he posts up a link here, just to try to drive “curiosity-seekers” to his blog…..incoherent doesn’t even begin to describe him”
—————————————————————— Lawrench threw a monkey when GorskiGeek had to edumacate him that I do NOT post “up a link” to “Orac’slHACK attack QUACKcheck-my-facts it’s just WHACK
—————————————————————— #34– palindrom – 11/25/2013
—————————————————————— “Lawrence @33 — Crank.net uses the wonderful category “illucid” for some of its crankier entries”
“This adjective is all too useful these days”
—————————————————————— #35 – Lawrence – 11/25/2013
—————————————————————— “@Palindrom – yes, a very good term….hey, at least I got an honorable mention over at insano’s site…kind of funny, actually”
—————————————————————— #36 – eNOS – 11/25/2013
—————————————————————— “I was unaware of the existence of crank.net”
“This is just wonderful and along the lines of tvtropes for a good afternoon of time wasting or entertainment between western blot transfers”
“Thank you!”
——————————————————————
What the 3 Amigob-smackers should do is grow a pair and stop bowing down to the Hitler of Histrionics, the Lenin of Lip-service, the Mussolini of MisDisInformation, the Pol Pot of Pusillanimousness, the Stalin of Stupendity
—————————————————————— #37 – Eric Lund – 11/25/2013
—————————————————————— “eNOS@32:”
“I infer from the domain name that this dude is pro-Burzynski (or at least thinks he is), but have never followed his trackback links to find out”
“(Presumably Rajmund is Dr. B’s middle name–that would be the Polish equivalent of Raymond.)”
“He went for alliteration in this post title, but I have no idea what “stupendous stupendity” (sic, from our Department of Redundancy Department) is supposed to mean”
“I’ll take your word for it that the post would not enlighten me on this point”
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I infer from your duh-same, that you’re insane in the membrane with an L.A. in S.B.M.
You can’t fix stoopid
—————————————————————— #39 – Krebiozen – 11/25/2013
—————————————————————— “DJT stomped about the scepticsphere for several months, including a sojourn here, insulting anyone who criticized Burzynski”
“He had multiple accounts banned on Twitter and has mostly retreated back to the almost comment-free blog he created”
“He did apparently debate Bob Blaskiewicz about Burzynski somewhere, but I haven’t expended much energy finding the transcript, as DJT is just too far gone for it to be interesting”
“I’m a bit concerned for his mental health, sincerely”
“Does anyone have any idea what the photo at the top of his blog represents”?
“It looks like a gloved hand wiping away a drop of urine, but I could be mistaken”
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Your S.B.M.“ranks” right up there
“It looks like a gloved hand wiping away a drop of urine, but I could be mistaken”
“It appears to be a cropped image of Gumby“
“Don’t ask me”
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Unfortunately, you’ve NEVER exhibited the “stones”based mastery necessary to sod off on “Orac,” piss-boy
Sha-mone
You know it
—————————————————————— #41 – eNOS – 11/26/2013
—————————————————————— “@Eric”
“There isn’t much of a post to speak of, as it goes”
“It’s mostly a smattering of links to other blog posts, miscellaneous things in brackets and bolded , and my god would you look at the tags”
“Those alone had to take up half the afternoon”
“The exchange with Bob would be entertaining, although I don’t know if I could parse DJT’s comments, given his “interesting” online vernacular”
“The photo on top is indeed gumby, turned on his side it looks like”
“The full picture appears as the thumbnail on a tab if you have the blog opened in firefox (probably chrome as well)”
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I just bet that down at the ol’ precinct house, they call you “no-shit Sherlock”!
—————————————————————— #42 – Orac – 11/26/2013
—————————————————————— “DJT amuses me”
“It’s the only reason I let his Trackbacks through”
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Poor Sad“OrSac” amuses me
I envision him in a “Hearing” with “Hey” Joe
Communist, yes?
“I’m not a communist, Senator”
“You look like a communist”
“I am not one of them, Senator McCarthy”
“You even smell like a commie”
Senator, the court even stated, and I quote:GorskGeek is “not ordinary communist”
I don’t care what your flamin” court called you, by gawd”
“You’re a commie, so why don’t you just grab your commie pinko blahg, Guy Chapman, and go ‘talk to the hand,’ up there by Lake Superior, while you commimune with nature, commie”!!
“Damn communists”!!!
“Next thing ya know, they’ll be wanting to ‘tie one on’“
—————————————————————— #43 – Lawrence – 11/26/2013
—————————————————————— “@Orac – I glance at his page from time to time…still incoherent….though getting a mention from him (well, pissing him off, actually) did give me quite the thrill….lol”
—————————————————————— Lawrry, the only thing you’ve been “pissing off” is the floor, again, because your scatterillogically bound missive, missed again
—————————————————————— #44 – Narad – 11/26/2013
—————————————————————— “The photo on top is indeed gumby, turned on his side it looks like”
“When I was looking at this last night, it seemed as though, based on where the drops of moisture appear on the thunbnail (which does not appear anywhere when I view the page in Firefox), it was probably Gumby’s right hand, cropped with the image upside-down”
“Then again, I’m little inclined to check again”
“I’m mildly amused by all the dot-anchored links at the top that are password-protected”
“Because, you know, if I want to organize files, I always put the cabinet out on the sidewalk with a sign on it saying “IMPROTNT FLIES” and then safeguard the key”
—————————————————————— “The Skeptics™” “conspiracy theorists” like Red Herring so much
Who am I to deny them ?
—————————————————————— #45 – Krebiozen – 11/26/2013
—————————————————————— “Does anyone have any idea who DJT is”?
“I don’t mean a name, I don’t want to out him, but I wonder whether he is associated with Burzynski in any way, if he has had a relative ‘cured’ by Burzynski, or if is he is just a concerned citizen, as it were”
“Whoever he is, he seems to have put a gargantuan effort into producing an enormous amount of evidence that he has a somewhat tenuous grip on reality”
“Gumby indeed”
“Truly bizarre”
—————————————————————— Kreblogizen, everyone knows what you have a “grip on”, and it’s assuredly NOT “reality”
—————————————————————— #46 – AdamG – 11/26/2013
—————————————————————— “Does anyone have any idea who DJT is”?
“Orac knows…I’m pretty sure I remember him saying he had a pretty good idea, at least”
——————————————————————
But then again, “Orac’s” been trying to convince his wife for years; without any luck, that he’s “about 75% sure” he “knows” where the “pisser” is
—————————————————————— #47 – AntipodeanChic – Apparently, the Land of “Asinine & Stupendous Stupidity (Pop. 1)” – 11/26/2013
—————————————————————— “Oh dear!”
“There I was, on tenterhooks overnight, fearing that I may have brought Respectful Insolence into some kind of dreadful disrepute”.*
“Granted, I had tried to make a weak joke about Suzanne Somers’ handing out medical advice – but I cannot fathom why pointing out an instance of dodgy clinical protocol should earn one an entire blog post, particularly as nobody else on the thread even responded to it”
“Clearly, my stupidity & lack of experience in that particular field must be to blame”.**
“Now, I had intended to avoid providing more fodder for my new friend but I agree with Krebiozen – I have to wonder at his motivation(s)”?
hee-hAW, population “one”
—————————————————————— #48 – eNOS – 11/27/2013
—————————————————————— “This may come through twice, as the first was given a “you’re posting comments to quickly” error”
“I didn’t even realize those dots on the top were links”
“Odd”
“I do wonder what he thinks he’s accomplishing with his rhetoric”
“The only thing I can really make out is that he is a Burzynski supporter, as Kreb mentioned above, but surely he can’t believe anyone on the same side considers him a legitimate ally when he posts all that mess”
“I will note that the about section is a bit more readable”
“I wonder if all this talk will open the gates for him here”
“Are he and his various iterations banned”?
“I forget”
“Oh, and Narad, this is the tiny Gumby thumbnail I referenced that appears in Firefox:”
——————————————————————
But then again, you can reference no other “Burzynski supporter,” who cites a case that went against him
Gorski wants to play in the kitchen, but he can’t take the heat
2/18/2013, Gorski posted his 1st book report on Hannah Bradley
Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski’s cancer “success” stories [1]
The year 2012 was rung out and the year 2013 was rung in by news that “Orac” Check-My-Facts-Hack, propagandist for “brave maverick doctor” Dr. David H. Gorski, who claims that sugar doesn’t feed cancer [2], is releasing a sequel to his wildly successful hackumentary (in “The Skeptics™” underground, that is) “How Stanislaw Burzynski became Burzynski the Brave Maverick Doctor, part 1” [3] 😃
In fact, the sequel is coming out on BFD (Blogs For Dummies) on …, well …, just any day now ! 😳
I somehow doubt that GorsKon will send me a screenerBFD to review, but I did review the 4blogettes he posted on Science Based Medicine; home of: “Our only goal is to promote high standards of science in medicine” [4], and National Geographic’s(#NatGeo)Science blogs, because it easily falls into a genre that I like to refer to as medical propaganda posts, which are almost always made in support of dubious blogs re medical treatments 😊
Gorhac’s mostly lame jokes about proposed titles aside (e.g., Burzynski II:”“Pathetic Googleloo, Burzynski II:”This Time It’s Pee-Reviewed, or even Burzynski II: FAQ Harder), it’s very clear that in the wake of his decision to drop his “[I]f I had screwed up, I would have admitted it” [5]claim re Burzynski on a technicality, and his very own spin doctor named “BOrac, are planning on a huge publicity blitz, in which @gorskon will be portrayed as, yes, a “brave maverick doctor” whom “They” (as in the BPG (Burzynski Patient Group), 3’s company, and the Don’t Mess with Texas Board of Education, a.k.a “DJT”) tried to keep down but failed because he has The Natural Cure For Rancor“Two Turntables and a Mr. Microphone” 😝
I come back to this again because Gorac’s strategy for Burzynski II, as I pointed out, is going to involve “conversion stories” of “The Skeptics™” who didn’t believe in @oracknows magic “[I]f I had screwed up, I would have admitted it”, but do now, after Bob ‘n Weave Blaskiewicz proclaimed during the 9/28/2013 “Burzynski Discussion” Google+ Hangout:“I think that professionally he would make, he he he would follow-up on these things” (2:01:00)[6], claims that he’s 75% sure of the identity of someone who has been critical of his work (like me) [7], and, of course, sucky stories 😜
“DOHrac’s” 4 posts consists of four elements:
Bias, MisDisInformation, (anecdotes), including “EOrac’s” “sucky stories”, contrasted with a rehash of “conspiracy theories” from his “review” of the first movie about the “cancer destablishment” trying to suppress common sense with pseudononsense 😄
Never mind that, even if he were FDA-approved, he would be in the same class as “The Skeptics™” that are disdained on social media as being more for hyper-“bull” than anything else because they have been giving B.S. for a long time ☺
He states: “One notes that Burzynski’s protocol requires at least 18 months of near-continuous infusion of high doses of his antineoplastons“
Does Gorski provide any citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s) to support his claim ?
no
“mOResmACk” reminds me of Pink
That would be the Pink in Pink Floyd, singing: “We don’t need no edumacation”, because he’s like the churlish schoolboy so intent on getting on to make his 2nd mud pie, that he pulls a wanker on the 1st one
Maybe he should learn how to do real “cancer research” like I posted 8/21/2013 [8]
——————————————————————
10/2004 (Pg. 384) 4.3 months – median duration of administration
——————————————————————
11/2010 (Pg. iv72) 4.4 months – median duration of treatment
——————————————————————
10/2006 (Pg. 466) 4 1/2 months – median duration of i.v. ANP
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3/2006 (Pg. 40) 5 months – median duration of antineoplaston administration
——————————————————————
10/2004 (Pg. 428) 5.2 months – administered median
——————————————————————
12/2009 (Pg. 951) 5.4 months – median duration of treatment (ST)
——————————————————————
12/2009 (Pg. 951) 5.6 months – median duration of treatment (SE)
——————————————————————
10/2004 (Pg. 427) 5.7 months – average duration of ANP
——————————————————————
10/2008 (Pg. 821) 5.7 months – median duration of treatment
—————————————————————— 2003 (Pgs. 91 + 96) 6 months – median duration of treatment
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12/2008 (Pg. 1067) 6.5 months – median duration of treatment
——————————————————————
10/2003 (Pg. 358) 9.5 months – median duration of IV ANP
——————————————————————
7/2005 (Pg. 300) 9 1/2 months – median duration of administration
—————————————————————— 2004 (Pgs. 315 + 320) 16 months (1 year 4 months) average duration of intravenous ANP
——————————————————————
6/2008 (Pg. 450) 16.5 months (1 year 4.5 months) – median
——————————————————————
2004 (Pg. 320)
19 months – average duration of oral ANP
——————————————————————
6/2005 (Pgs. 168 + 170)
20 months (1 year 8 months) administered average duration
——————————————————————
10/2003 (Pg. 358)
28.6 months (2 years 4.6 months) – median duration of po ANP
After obtaining at least minor response (SD), the treatment continued with po ANP
——————————————————————
9/2004 (Pg. 257)
655 consecutive days – administration of antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 with the exception of a few short interruptions
—————————————————————— Gorski continues:
“Attacks on skeptics and critics of Burzynski“
“If you don’t believe me, just read question #12 in Merola’s FAQ, in which he states,
“You will notice the ‘anti-Burzynski’ bloggers refuse to do that or adhere to reputable sources”
—————————————————————— Gorski, you did NOT even provide any “source” for your “claim” that:
” … Burzynski’s protocol requires at least 18 months of near-continuous infusion of high doses of his antineoplastons“
—————————————————————— Gorski adds:
“You might say, they are preying on desperate cancer patients and families of cancer patients by carelessly misleading their readers about Burzynski and his invention.””
—————————————————————— Gorski, let’s check and see where else YOU are “carelessly misleading” your “readers”
One marvels at your amazing level of protestation ッ
However, every movie needs a villain, and it doesn’t take “sidekick” abilities to guess why “The Skeptics™” are portrayed as villains
—————————————————————— Gorski gratuitously gabs on:
“Merola also direly accuses and threatens,
“In the worst case scenarios, some bloggers intentionally publish fabricated information to their readers in an attempt to curb new patients from going to the Burzynski Clinic“
“I can hardly wait”
—————————————————————— Gorski, did you mean to “intentionally publish fabricated information” ? 😮
—————————————————————— “Neither can, I bet, a fair number of lawyers“
—————————————————————— Gorski, who’s your lawyer ?
—————————————————————— Gorski plods onward:
“An attempt to reframe Burzynski’s enormous bills for his antineoplaston therapy and criticism that he’s making clinical trial subjects pay to be in his clinical trials”
—————————————————————— Gorski, BITE ME 🙂
Does Gorski provide any citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s) to support his claim ?
——————————————————————
CHEMOTHERAPY: 9/24/2012 – hospitals routinely marking up prices on cancer drugs 2 to 10 times over cost
Some markups far higher
nearly $4,500 for 240-milligram dose of irinotecan to treat colon or rectal cancer average sales price: less than $60
about $19,000 1-gram dose of rituximab to treat lymphoma and leukemia roughly 3 times average sales price
about $680 50 milligrams of cisplatin markup: more than 50 times average sales price
Avastin, about $90,000 a year http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/09/24/3549634/prices-soar-as-hospitals-dominate.html
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5/14/2012 – Oral anti-cancer medications generally considered pharmacy benefit
Instead of co-payment plan members often pay % of cost — up to 50% in some cases — with no annual out-of-pocket limit
drugs expensive often costing 10s of 1,000s of $s a year http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-05-14/national/35457286_1_lung-cancer-drug-drugs-work-multiple-myeloma-patients
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RADIATION: 1/4/2013 – new study most comprehensive cost analysis ever, compared costs and outcomes associated with various types of treatment for all forms of disease, ranged from $19,901 for robot-assisted prostatectomy to treat low-risk disease, $50,276 for combined radiation therapy for high-risk disease http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2013/01/13370/how-prostate-cancer-therapies-compare-cost-and-effectiveness
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3/15/2012 – Using Surveillance, Epidemiology and End Results (SEER)-Medicare data, 26,163 women with localized breast cancer had undergone surgery and radiation 2001 to 2005
found Medicare billing for IMRT increased 0.9% diagnosed 2001 to 11.2% diagnosed 2005
average cost radiation treatment during 1st year $7,179 for non-IMRT $15,230 with IMRT
billing for IMRT more than 5 times higher in regions across nation where local Medicare coverage determinations favorable to IMRT compared to regions where unfavorable
“The new claim is that Burzynski isn’t making patients pay for his antineoplastons (see question #13 in Merola’s FAQ), just for “clinical management” (as if that weren’t incredibly transparent) Vindication”
—————————————————————— Gorski, “NEW CLAIM” ?
2/4/2013 my post #180 on YOUR blog addressed this “new claim” by referencing a 3/12/1996 note before you posted your article 2/18/2013 [9]
—————————————————————— 3/12/1996: 2nd – 4th paragraphs (2/4/2013 post #180)
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— Gorski, makes an excuse:
“The last time I discussed Merola’s forthcoming movie, I mentioned that he had contacted me in December and asked me to appear as a Burzynski critic“
“After consultation with skeptics with more media savvy than I, not to mention the PR department at the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute (whom I thought it wise to give fair warning that one of their faculty might be featured as evil incarnate in a new documentary and to give the background on what it’s all about, in case there were press inquiries), I politely declined“
—————————————————————— Gorski is like fetid HOT AIR, all words and NO action
—————————————————————— Gorski fumes:
“While going on and on about how he thinks most of us have “good motives” and how we want to be the white knight riding in to save patients from quackery (a desire he somehow manages to convey with clear dismissiveness and contempt), Merola turns immediately around to claim that we don’t know what we’re talking about and we don’t read the literature“
—————————————————————— Gorski, YOU really “don’t know what” you’re “talking about” and I’m just getting warmed up 🙂
—————————————————————— Gorski has smoke coming out his ears:
“This, of course, is complete nonsense, as I’ve read many of Burzynski’s papers (such as they are), delved into ClinicalTrials.gov to look at his clinical trials, examined the plausibility of his claims from a scientific standpoint, and examined the literature from others, both on antineoplastons and related topics”
“I’ve dissected Burzynski’s claims for antineoplastons based on science, assessed his “personalized, gene-targeted cancer therapy” claims and found them wanting, and pointed out how what he is peddling isn’t really anything new at all (more on that later), all based on my knowledge, skills, and understanding of cancer as a breast cancer surgeon and researcher”
“No doubt that’s why Merola needs to discredit me“
—————————————————————— Gorski, Eric Merola does NOT need “to discredit” you
YOU have already done a yeoman’s job of discrediting yourself [10] 🙂
—————————————————————— Gorski posits:
“Other bloggers who have been critical of Burzynski might or might not have my scientific background, but they’ve delved just as deeply into his claims and the evidence for them, and, as I have, they’ve found them highly overinflated and largely not based in science”
—————————————————————— Gorski, unfortunately, is NOT able to name these “[o]ther bloggers”
—————————————————————— Gorski deposits:
“They’ve also taken on aspects of the Burzynski phenomenon, such what I consider to be his questionable ethics and finding out what happened to a lot of patients who trusted Burzynski, far better than I have”
“Merola’s dismissal of Burzynski’s critics is, quite frankly, insulting to them and to me.”
—————————————————————— Gorski fails to mention the very “questionable ethics” of his intrepid research bud Bob [11]
—————————————————————— Gorski rants:
“I don’t know what sort of attacks on the UK bloggers who produce the bulk of the skeptical blog posts about Burzynski are coming in Burzynski II, but when it comes to me no doubt Merola is referring to this bit of yellow journalism in 2010 from an antivaccine propagandist named Jake Crosby, entitled David Gorski’s Financial Pharma Ties:”
“What He Didn’t Tell You”
——————————————————————
Does Gorski provide any citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s) to support his claim that it’s:
“UK bloggers who produce the bulk of the skeptical blog posts about Burzynski” ?
“What He Didn’t Tell You” ?
NO
—————————————————————— Gorski blots:
“Predictable and tiresome attacks aside, Pete and Hannah’s video made me curious about the specific success stories that Merola will focus on as “proof” that Burzynski is on to something; so I decided I should look into their stories”
“On the surface to those not familiar with cancer they do look like success stories”
“If one digs deeper, the true story is a lot murkier”
—————————————————————— Doctor “G” omits, that once “one digs deeper”, HIS“story is a lot murkier”
—————————————————————— Gorski A.D.D.s:
“More importantly, as I will show, even if they really are success stories—which is not at all clear—they do not constitute convincing evidence of the general efficacy of Burzynski’s antineoplastons, nor do they justify what I consider to be Burzynski’s highly unethical behavior.”
—————————————————————— More importantly, as I will show, is what I consider to be Gorski’s highly unethical behavior
—————————————————————— Gorski flails away:
“I will start with Hannah Bradley’s story because I’ve watched the entire 40 minute video Hannah’s Anecdote (whose title is even more appropriate than perhaps Pete Cohen imagined when he made it)”
“The documentary ends triumphantly several months after the events portrayed during the bulk of the film with Hannah apparently having had a complete response to Burzynski’s antineoplaston therapy:”
——————————————————————
Let me just first say something before I begin my usual analysis
I love these reviews 😘
I really do
Yes, it’s true that GorsGeek can be a bit annoying with his seeming desire to validate everything he flogs about some perceived “offender,”as being applicable to him, but I want GorskGeek and “HOrac” to be able to live a long and full life together, growing old in each other’s company
I really do
In fact, I’d love to hang with these two and maybe buy them a pint or two at their local pub (except that it’s pointed out multiple times that GOrackGeek should no longer drink alcohol)
“Such is not my intent, but what are skeptics supposed to do?”
“Shy away from undertaking a dispassionate analysis of patient anecdotes used to promote dubious cancer therapies for fear of what patients will say?”
—————————————————————— Gorski, it might actually help IF you knew how to do a proper “dispassionate analysis” 😐
—————————————————————— Gorski cites from the Team Hannah blog
“Hannah’s treatment options are very limited and her life expectancy is for this type of tumour is normally around 18 months and this is why I started a mission to find people who had the same condition and are still alive today”
“I managed to track down a number of these people to speak to them.”
“In his movie, Pete points out that these people all led back to Burzynski“
Gorski interjects:
“Of course, as I’ve said before, dead patients don’t produce testimonials for alternative cancer cures“
——————————————————————
One wonders why Gorski even makes this comment as the number of patients Pete contacted re Burzynski’s “alternative cancer” cure, were obviously NOT dead 😮
—————————————————————— Gorski segues on to:
“Not long after they appear at the Burzynski Clinic, they meet with doctors there who tell them that Hannah’s most recent MRI scan showed progression of her tumor (around 8:30 in the movie)”
“Now, I’m not a radiologist, much less a neuroradiologist, but I wondered at all the enhancement on the superficial area of the brain, just under where her neurosurgeon must have raised the bone flap to remove what he could of the tumor“
“One wonders if much of the remaining enhancement could be still post-surgical and post-radiation change“
“Certainly, the tumor is cystic-appearing, and after surgery such cysts would likely shrink and be reabsorbed even if the tumor were to keep growing”
—————————————————————— Gorski, if you were NOT in a such a rush to post your blog article “ad homineming” Josh Duhamel, you could have taken the time to do proper “cancer research” and maybe listen to the 9/24/2012 @YouTube video of Pete Cohen talking with Neurosurgeon (Consultant) Juan F. Martinez-Canca (20:31)
After all, HE is an actual NEUROSURGEON
——————————————————————
——————————————————————
Or you could read the transcript I made of the video [12]
——————————————————————
Or you could have contacted him and asked questions http://www.neurokonsilia.com/About-Us.html
—————————————————————— Gorski tangents:
“Be that as it may, there were a number of things I found very interesting in this video”
“First, I notice that nowhere was there anything mentioned about enrolling Hannah on a clinical trial“
—————————————————————— Gorski, if you had let Hannah know you were going to do your article about her, she might have churned her 4/4/2013 article out faster just for you, where she advises:
“Luckily I was able to take part in a phase 2 clinical trial in Texas, USA”[13]
—————————————————————— Gorski stupefies:
“Given what a thorough videographer Pete obviously is, I find this omission very curious”
“Certainly, given how much detail he’s used in this video and in his vlogs I’d expect that if the subject of clinical trials was mentioned he would have included it”
—————————————————————— Gorski, if you were NOT so busy “getting the popcorn” as you “watched the entire 40 minute video Hannah’s Anecdote”, you might have actually noticed at (7:14):
—————————————————————— 12/12/2011 – Day 2 – Monday
Meeting with Dr. Yi and Dr. Greg Burzynski at Burzynski Clinic
—————————————————————— Dr. Greg Burzynski – “We have permission to start you on the antineoplastons”
“Mhmm”
Dr. Greg Burzynski – “which as you know are in the final stages of drug approval”
“Yeah”
Dr. Greg Burzynski – “Dr. Yi is the oncologist on this case”
—————————————————————— Gorski, did you SEE THAT ?
An ONCOLOGIST at the Burzynski Clinic, working with Burzynski
(No wonder you left that out !)
—————————————————————— Gorski ejects:
“The other thing that struck me was just how much Burzynski is full of it when he advertises antineoplastons as not being chemotherapy and, more importantly, as being nontoxic“
“At least a third of the video consisted of the difficulties that Hannah had with her treatment, including high fevers, a trip to the emergency room, and multiple times when the antineoplaston treatment was stopped“
“She routinely developed fevers to 102° F, and in one scene her fever reached 103.9° F“
“She felt miserable, nauseated and weak“
“I’ve seen chemotherapy patients suffer less”
—————————————————————— Gorski whines:
“I’ve seen chemotherapy patients suffer less”, but this is purely “anecdotal”
“At least a third of the video consisted of the difficulties that Hannah had with her treatment”
Let’s do the math, shall we ?
——————————————————————
In America (48 days)
12/11/2011 (Sunday) – 1/27/2012 (Friday)
[4:52 – 35:43]
—————————————————————— Burzynski Clinic 47 days – (7 weeks)
12/12/2011 (Monday) – 1/26/2012 (Thursday)
[5:37 – 35:43]
—————————————————————— 12/13/2011 (Tuesday) Day 3
after catheter – Hickman line surgery
(painful / really painful) [10:30]
—————————————————————— 12/14/2011 (Wednesday) Day 4
(feeling wrecked / absolutely wrecked) [10:52]
—————————————————————— 12/24/2011 (Saturday) Day 14
fever
bad breathing
uncontrollable chills couldn’t stop shivering all Saturday night [18:10]
—————————————————————— 12/25/2011 (Sunday) Day 15
fever
flu symptoms
bad breathing
headache
in bed
absolutely exhausted
little bit of swelling back of head [18:10]
—————————————————————— 12/27/2011 (Tuesday) Day 17
temp 102
temp down / up [19:04]
—————————————————————— 12/28/2011 (Wednesday) Day 18
exhausted
close to breaking / cracking [19:04]
—————————————————————— 12/29/2011 (Thursday) Day 19
hospital – E.R.
“I’m at my wits end”
“I don’t feel I can take anymore” [20:07]
—————————————————————— 12/30/2011 (Friday) Day 20
last week up & down
fever
chills
shaking
viral infection
bacterial infection
had to go to E.R. [20:22]
—————————————————————— 12/31/2011 (Saturday) Day 21
fever in middle of night
flu-like symptoms
temp 102 [21:53]
—————————————————————— 1/1/2012 (Sunday) Day 22
feel drunky
felt like completely drunk
double vision
Nurse said anti-seizure drug she hadn’t taken before
bit shaky [22:34]
—————————————————————— 1/15/2012 (Sunday) Day 36
antibiotics 1st day [24:33]
—————————————————————— 1/16/2012 (Monday) Day 37
over 102 Monday night
antibiotics 2nd day [25:24]
—————————————————————— 1/17/2012 (Tuesday) Day 38
fever
temp 101.8
throat infection
antibiotics been on 3 days [25:24]
—————————————————————— 1/20/2012 (Friday) Day 41
fever 104 (103.9) Friday night [26:54]
—————————————————————— 1/21/2012 (Saturday) Day 42
temp up to 104 (103.9)
Dr. on-call – Ibuprofen
102.5
yesterday afternoon (blood) rash ? [27:50]
—————————————————————— 1/23/2012 (Monday) Day 44
some itch [28:35] ======================================
47 days – Burzynski Clinic 31 days – treatmentNOTmentioned 16 days – treatment mentioned ====================================== 12/25/2011 (Sunday) Day 15 off ANP [18:10]
—————————————————————— 12/27/2011 (Tuesday) Day 17 back on ANP off ANP – temp 102
temp down / up [19:04]
—————————————————————— 12/28/2011 (Wednesday) Day 18 on ANP much smaller dose [19:04]
—————————————————————— 12/29/2011 (Thursday) Day 19
hospital – E.R. [20:07]
—————————————————————— 12/30/2011 (Friday) Day 20
last week up & down off on off on off ANP [20:22]
—————————————————————— 12/31/2011 (Saturday) Day 21
temp 102 [21:53]
—————————————————————— 1/15/2012 (Sunday) Day 36
antibiotics 1st day [24:33]
—————————————————————— 1/16/2012 (Monday) Day 37
over 102 Monday night
antibiotics 2nd day [25:24]
—————————————————————— 1/17/2012 (Tuesday) Day 38
temp 101.8 off ANP (If 102 take off ANP)
antibiotics been on 3 days [25:24]
—————————————————————— 1/20/2012 (Friday) Day 41
fever 104 (103.9) Friday night [26:54]
—————————————————————— 1/21/2012 (Saturday) Day 42 off ANP – temp up to 104 (103.9)
102.5 [27:50] ====================================== 5 – off ANP
May have beenoff ANP5 to 6 days out of 47? ====================================== 12/27/2011 (Tuesday) Day 17
temp 102
temp down / up [19:04]
—————————————————————— 12/29/2011 (Thursday) Day 19
hospital – E.R. [20:07]
—————————————————————— 12/31/2011 (Saturday) Day 21
temp 102 – in middle of night [21:53]
—————————————————————— 1/16/2012 (Monday) Day 37
temp over 102 Monday night
antibiotics 2nd day [25:24]
—————————————————————— 1/17/2012 (Tuesday) Day 38
temp 101.8
antibiotics been on 3 days [25:24]
—————————————————————— 1/20/2012 (Friday) Day 41
temp 104 (103.9) Friday night [26:54]
—————————————————————— 1/21/2012 (Saturday) Day 42
102.5 [27:50] ====================================== 6 days – temperature mentioned
temp 102 – temp down / up – 12/27/2011 102 in middle of night – 12/31/2011 102+ Monday night – 1/16/2012 temp 101.8 – 1/17/2012 104 (103.9) Friday night – 1/20/2012 102.5 – 1/21/2012 ====================================== Gorski scatterbrains on:
“I was also very puzzled at how the Burzynski Clinic could allow a cancer patient to linger with a fever of 102° F and sometimes higher, accompanied by shaking chills, in a temporary lodging without admitting her to the hospital“
——————————————————————
Does Gorski provide any citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s) to support his claim ?
“It’s not clear what sort of workup was done to evaluate Hannah either, what her white blood cell count was, or what her other labs were“
“Did they draw blood cultures?”
“Did they get urinalyses and cultures?”
“Did they do chest X-rays to rule out pneumonia?”
—————————————————————— Gorski, maybe you should have asked Wayne Dolcefino
Or maybe you should have gone to the Burzynski Clinic
Oh, wait
You think you know everything and could NOT learn anything by going there 😅
—————————————————————— Gorski at least gets one thing correct:
“It’s all very unclear, other than that she apparently was given some antibiotics at some point”
—————————————————————— 1/15/2012 Monday Day 36 antibiotics 1st day
—————————————————————— 1/16/2012 Tuesday Day 37 antibiotics 2nd day
—————————————————————— 1/17/2012 (Tuesday) Day 38 antibiotics been on 3 days
—————————————————————— Gorski wonders:
“Did she have the flu, given her flu-like symptoms, or was this due to her antineoplaston therapy?“
—————————————————————— Gorski, why not “speculate” like “The Skeptics™” usually do ?
—————————————————————— 12/24/2011 (Saturday) Day 14 fever
bad breathing
shivering all night
—————————————————————— 12/25/2011 (Sunday) Day 15 flu symptoms
breathing
headache
uncontrollable chills couldn’t stop off ANP absolutely exhausted
in bed
little bit of swelling back of head
—————————————————————— 12/27/2011 (Tuesday) Day 17 back on ANP temp 102 – off ANP temp down / up
—————————————————————— 12/28/2011 (Wednesday) Day 18 on ANP much smaller dose exhausted – close to breaking / cracking
—————————————————————— 12/29/2011 (Thursday) Day 19 hospital – E.R.
—————————————————————— 12/30/2011 (Friday) Day 20 last week up & down off on off on off fever
chills
shaking
viral infection
bacterial infection
—————————————————————— 12/31/2011 (Saturday) Day 21 temp 102 – fever in middle of night
Dr. SRB thinks flu-like symptoms or tumor actually breaking down
—————————————————————— 1/16/2012 (Monday) Day 37 temp 102+ Monday night
—————————————————————— 1/17/2012 (Tuesday) Day 38 throat infection temp 101.8 – fever – off ANP antibiotics been on 3 days
—————————————————————— 1/20/2012 (Friday) Day 41 104 (103.9) – fever – Friday night
—————————————————————— 1/21/2012 (Saturday) Day 42 temp up to 104
Dr. on-call – Ibuprofen 102.5 – off ANP yesterday afternoon rash
—————————————————————— Gorski ponders:
“The reaction of the clinic staff (i.e., rather blasé, even though at one point Hannah clearly demonstrates a change in mental status, appearing “drunk” and complaining of double-vision) made me wonder if this sort of problem was a common occurrence”
—————————————————————— Gorski, what’s the matter ?
Did you grab another handful of popcorn ?
—————————————————————— 1/1/2012 (Sunday) Day 22Burzynski Clinic feel drunky
felt like completely drunk
double vision
bit shaky Nurse said anti-seizure drug she hadn’t taken before [22:34]
—————————————————————— Gorski, what are some of the side-effects of “anti-seizure” medications ?
dizziness
double-vision
drowsiness
imbalance
loss of coordination
Problems with motor skills
Problems with tasks requiring sustained performance
nausea
slurred speech
staggering
mental disturbances
serious mood changes
—————————————————————— http://umm.edu/health/medical/reports/articles/epilepsy
—————————————————————— Gorski continues his assault on the popcorn:
“At another point, Pete and Hannah come to believe that the fevers might have been due to the tumor breaking down, which strikes me as implausible”
—————————————————————— Gorski, if it “strikes” you “as implausible”, then why did you ask, above ?
“Did she have the flu, given her flu-like symptoms, or was this due to her antineoplaston therapy?“
—————————————————————— 12/31/2011 (Saturday) Day 21 temp 102 – fever in middle of night Dr. SRB thinks flu-like symptoms OR tumor actually breaking down [21:53]
—————————————————————— Gorski blunders along:
“Later, she develops an extensive rash“
—————————————————————— 1/23/2012 (Monday) Day 44 Pete sent pic to Dr. SRB who gave name from pic and Pete verified [28:35]
—————————————————————— Gorski bumbles onward:
“It’s difficult to tell for sure what it is at the resolution of the video, but it looks like erythema multiforme, which is generally an allergic rash”
“What’s the most likely cause of such a rash?”
“Guess”
“Erythema multiforme is usually a drug reaction”
—————————————————————— Gorski, what can cause “Erythema multiforme” ?
“Does this mean that Burzynski’s antineoplaston treatment worked for Hannah?“
“Sadly, the answer is:”
“Not necessarily”
“It might have”
“It might not have”
“Why do I say this?”
“First, she didn’t have much residual disease after surgery and radiotherapy, and in fact it’s hard to tell how much is tumor and how much is postop and radiation effect“
—————————————————————— Gorski, I think it’s safe to say that neurosurgeon Dr. Martinez knows much better than you and your speculation
—————————————————————— Gorski
“Second, the median survival for anaplastic astrocytoma (which is a form of glioma) is around 2 to 3 years, and with different types of radiation therapy five year survival is around 15% or even higher”
—————————————————————— Gorski provides a link to a site which advises [14]:
High-grade tumors grow rapidly and can easily spread through the brain“
High-grade tumors are much more aggressive and require very intensive therapy
All patients with high-grade astrocytomas receive both radiation therapy and chemotherapy regardless of age
Prognosis is poor in this group of patients
—————————————————————— Gorski’s 2nd linked source advises [15]:
These highly aggressive tumors often occur in young adults and typically recur or progress to a grade 4 glioblastoma within several years of diagnosis, despite treatment with surgery, radiotherapy, and chemotherapy
Tumor more resistant to therapy and patients have shorter median survival of only 2 to 3 years
—————————————————————— Gorski’s 3rd link [16] showcases his lame research as one has to read through almost the entire article to find the reference, which directs the reader to yet another publication [17]:
Gorski FAILS to advise the reader that the 2002 study is titled:
“Intraoperative radiation therapy (IORT) for previously untreated malignant gliomas“
Hannah Bradley’s WAS previously treated
Gorski also FAILS to advise the reader if this study included patients with grade 3 or 4 tumors
—————————————————————— Gorski claims:
“Thus, long term survival for patients with astrocytomas is not so rare that Hannah’s survival is so unlikely that the most reasonable assumption has to be that it was Burzynski’s treatment that saved her”
—————————————————————— Gorski, nice claim, but you did NOT really prove it
—————————————————————— Gorski suspects:
“More likely, Hannah is a fortunate outlier, although it’s hard for me to say even that because, at only two years out from her initial diagnosis, she’s only just reached the lower end of the range of reported median survival times for her disease”
—————————————————————— Gorski, the operative word is “outLIER”
Gorski then goes all “conspiracy theory” about a supposed “cryptic Facebook post”, a “vlog entry no longer exists”, “Hannah and Pete supposedly being “evasive”, “using vague terms”, a “little blip”, and “lack of new scans”
Next, little green “popcorn munchin'” men 👽
—————————————————————— 3/4/2013 Gorski drops “conspiracy theory, part II” on an unsuspecting audience [19]:
Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski’s cancer “success” stories update: Why is the release of the Burzynski sequel being delayed?
It’s no secret that I happen to NOT be on several mailing lists of “The Skeptics™”whose dedication to science is—shall we say?—questionable
As I delved deeper, I learned that Gorski’s evidence for the “questioning” of the anticancer efficacy of “antineoplaston therapy” doesn’t hold up; that his “questioning” of “personalized gene-targeted cancer therapy” is anything but; and that he’s an orphan now in what appears to me to be a strategy to bypass restrictions on his use of proper “cancer research “
The CliffsNotes version for those who don’t want to read Gorsack’s previous lengthy post is that he claims Hannah’s tumor, an astrocytoma (which is a form of glioma) did indeed appear to regress, but that regression can likely be explained by the surgery and radiation therapy that she had
Even then, however, he claims it would not be evidence that the antineoplastons saved her because there are occasional complete remissions in this tumor type, and long term survivors, although uncommon, are not so uncommon that Hannah must be evidence that antineoplastons are so miraculously effective that they saved her when conventional medicine could not
Gorski’s claims are anecdotal, as he failed miserably to provide the necessary citation(s), reference(s), and / or link(s) to support his claims
Gorski claims:
“I try very hard not to cross that line, and I think I’ve been successful, for instance, here”
But I proved again, above, how he fails and fails again with his “amateurish” attempts at proper “cancer research”
Similarly, Gorski realizes that it is very effective to appeal to emotions and cast Burzynski’s as heartless
Gorski inserts other Burzynski patients into his posts about Pete and Hannah
—————————————————————— GORSKI FAIL #1 – “One notes that Burzynski’s protocol requires at least 18 months of near-continuous infusion of high doses of his antineoplastons“
—————————————————————— GORSKI FAIL #2 – “The new claim is that Burzynski isn’t making patients pay for his antineoplastons (see question #13 in Merola’s FAQ), just for “clinical management” (as if that weren’t incredibly transparent) Vindication”
—————————————————————— GORSKI FAIL #3 – “First, I notice that nowhere was there anything mentioned about enrolling Hannah on a clinical trial“
—————————————————————— GORSKI FAIL #4 – “Certainly, given how much detail he’s used in this video and in his vlogs I’d expect that if the subject of clinical trials was mentioned he would have included it“
—————————————————————— GORSKI FAIL #5 – “The reaction of the clinic staff (i.e., rather blasé, even though at one point Hannah clearly demonstrates a change in mental status, appearing “drunk”and complaining of double-vision) made me wonder if this sort of problem was a common occurrence”
—————————————————————— GORSKI FAIL #6 – Well, I could add more … 🙂
——————————————————————
My apologies to the following co-authors if you ever had to check the “cancer research” of one: Gorski D., Gorski DH, D H Gorski,
—————————————————————— DJT – Didymus Judas Thomas
—————————————————————— BB – Bob Blaskiewicz
====================================== (0:12:00)
—————————————————————— DJT – Well a lot of the time I’m making fun of y’all’s favorite oncologist, the way he words his blogs, and uhmmm I cite specifically from the FDA, from from the National Cancer Institute, from these other scientific sources, from scientific publications
I give people specific information so they can fact-check me, unlike a lot of The Skeptics who just go out there and say things and publish things on social media, they provide no back-up for their uhhh sayings
—————————————————————— (0:13:00)
—————————————————————— DJT – And so I’ve tried to add those things and allow people to search, on specific things like publications, or what I posted about The Lancet, or specifically about The Skeptics, or specifically about the oncologist
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— DJT – Well the thing is, when you accepted this hangout, I published my newest blog article and I specifically listed all the information I had critiqued from you previously including Amelia, and I posted the specific Twitter responses by BurzynskiMovie; which is probably Eric, to your issues with Amelia, and he disagrees with what the oncologist posted, and so I pretty much let his Twitter responses stand to what the oncologist said
—————————————————————— 0:14:24
======================================
If it's true that #burzynski and his adman Merola have insinuated that parents are to blame for Amelia's death that's utterly disgusting.
====================================== DJT – Well what I find interesting about these other doctors is like like the doctors mentioned in the movie and BBC Panorama’s report and in some of these newspaper articles where they are mentioned again is that these doctors never do a review of Burzynski’s scientific publications and including our favorite oncologist who refuses to do so [4]
“I think” ====================================== 11/2/2012 – “Personally having pored over Burzynski’s publications” ======================================
DJT – Oh yeah he says he’s read everything but uh you know he claims that he’s uhmmm reviewed, reviewed uh Burzynski’s personalized gene targeted therapy but he, but then just a few months ago he admitted, you know, I don’t know where Burzynski says which genes are targeted by antineoplastons
And I pointed out which specific publications that Burzynski published, publications which specifically mention which genes are targeted by antineoplastons, and I said how can you claim that you’ve read and reviewed every Burzynski publication and you didn’t know which genes are targeted by antineoplastons when that’s specifically in the publications ?
To me that tells me that you do not know how antineoplastons work be because you just admitted you don’t know which genes Burzynski talks about
I mean that’s just funny as heck to me that he would say that [5]
—————————————————————— 0:25:07
—————————————————————— DJT – But the other issue is that Skeptics have posted on there that he could not get that accelerated approval until he had published a phase 2 trial and that is exactly not the case because other drugs have been given accelerated approval before their results were published in phase 2 clinical trial publications, cuz, so that question remains as well [6] ====================================== “Temodar and Avastin both had proper, completed, and published phase II trials before approval” ======================================
====================================== Bob Blaskiewicz (@rjblaskiewicz) tweeted at 10:44am – 31 Jul 13:
@TomLemley1 @AceofSpadesHQ @mikespillane The FDA won’t approve his drug until he ever finishes and publishes a trial. clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?te…
And so when I critique an oncologist or any other Skeptic I always provide source material so people can always fact-check me and I specifically said that people should fact-check everything ummm that the oncologist should say because he has, I’ve proven him to be frequently incorrect about his information and misleading
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— 0:44:00
—————————————————————— DJT – The thing that’s funny is that people can say, ohhh Burzynski charges a lot, but the fact is, so does chemo, radiation, and some of these newspaper articles that have been published, and specifically in the movie, Burzynski 2, one of the people mentioned how much someone was paying for standard treatment
And I noticed our favorite oncologist didn’t comment about that in his movie review [7]
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— 1:11:04
—————————————————————— BB – “There’s something that that we don’t know, you’re coming, honestly we didn’t know what to expect when we talked to you”
“We, were looking at the design, of your web-site and wondering whether or not we would be able to get a a coherent sentence out of you, because the web-site is disorganized, uh”
“Um, at at at at least it’s the organization is not apparent to the readers“
“Um, and um according to”
—————————————————————— DJT
That’s like, that’s like saying that Gorski’s web-site is disorganized, his blog is like anti vaccine one day, Burzynski the next, blah blah blah
—————————————————————— BB – “No, that is tied together”
—————————————————————— 1:12:00
—————————————————————— BB – “But let me, we know that that the the, the central concern is Burzynski“ ======================================
This is so Hilarious
Bob, why don’t you give a detailed explanation of how my blog with all its different search functions, is more “disorganized” than yours, and how about an in-depth data-analysis of Gorski’s “Respectful Insolence” blog, listing the # of Burzynski articles versus other articles
Oh
By the way, if you have NOT yet figured it out, my entire blog is Burzynski related ====================================== DJT – Well I think that people who really believe in “Free Speech,” and when it’s done rationally, I mean, Gorski would never, really respond to any of my questions, so I
—————————————————————— BB – “Did he, did he leave them up ?”
“Did he leave them up ?”
—————————————————————— DJT – Well I know that he specifically removed a review I did uh of his review of Burzynski I on his web, on his blog
But he’s pretty much left a lot of my comments up that I’ve seen
Uh, but he never really responded to my questions about, what he based his beliefs upon
—————————————————————— 1:27:00
—————————————————————— BB – “Right, um, do you think that he is required to answer you ?”
—————————————————————— DJT – Well I would think, if you’re going to base your position on a certain thing, and then you can’t back it up with scientific literature, uh, you should answer, maybe not specifically to me, but answer the question
Answer to your readers [8]
—————————————————————— BB – “Right”
—————————————————————— DJT – You know, I can tell his readers come on my blog because it shows that they come on my blog
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— 1:34:00
—————————————————————— BB – “Um, you know, Gorski blogs under his real name, and is critical of uh, uh, also, let’s face it, everyone know, knows who “Orac” is”
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— 1:39:00
—————————————————————— BB – “Uh, what’s next for you”
—————————————————————— DJT – Well I’ll just keep reviewing the, any inaccurate statements I see posted
You know, it depends on if it’s Gorski, you know
Gorski’s gone on there and posted inaccurate stuff, and I call him out, you know he’s basically said on his blog, you know, if I do something inaccurate, you know, I’ll ‘fess up to it
====================================== ====================================== 6/3/2013 – “[I]f I had screwed up, I would have admitted it” ======================================
Well, I’ve pointed out where he’s done that and said “Hey, you said you were gonna ‘fess up to it”
If I said on my blog that I was going to ‘fess up to doing something wrong, and you caught me, well, then I should, come out and say, “Okay, you got me”
But Gorski won’t even do that, you know, he just continues to go on down the road, as if
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— 1:56:02
—————————————————————— DJT – Well, I’m sure, I’m sure Gorskiwould have a comment about that, as he’s commented previously about how he thinks uh Burzynski should publish
—————————————————————— BB – “Oh I, I I I certainly don’t think that he would put a lot of stock in it, but I, I, I know Dave Gorski enough, he wants this to work”
“He has patients who are dying, you know”
“And if if if let’s say that that Burzynski could get ah his gene-targeted therapy to work on breast cancer patients in in a reliable way, that would be, such a help to these people, that that Gorski’s trying to help”
—————————————————————— 1:57:10
—————————————————————— BB – “Um, yea, it doesn’t matter now whether or not Burz, whether or not Gorski agrees with how Burzynski publishes” ======================================
This is Laughable
Nowhere have I seen any indication from Gorski of a positive nature towards Burzynski [9] ====================================== DJT – Like I said before
Like I said before on my blog, you know, even if Burzynski publishes his phase 2 information, Gorski can just jump up and down and say, “Well, that just shows evidence of efficacy, you know, it’s not phase 3, so it doesn’t really prove it”
—————————————————————— 1:58:04
—————————————————————— DJT – So then he can go on, you know, for however many years he wants to
—————————————————————— BB – “But he is a, the thing is, the thing is, you thing you have to understand is Gorski, Gorski is a genuine expert, in matters re re regarding on oncology studies“
I mean, he has a”
—————————————————————— DJT – Well,
—————————————————————— BB – “He, He’s able to convince people, he’s able to convince people, on the strength of his record, to give him money to carry out research”
People who know what they’re talking about”
To give him money to carry out his research”
Right ?”
—————————————————————— DJT – This is, this is a guy who must phone it in because, he went in there and posted the old Josephine Jones response that, you know, no drugs had been approved by the FDA without their final phase 2 publication 1st being published, which was not a factual statement, and you’ve made the same statement
So I, I’m thinking that Gorski just bought her statement and took it and ran with it, and before he fact-checked it, and what, what happened, it was wrong
—————————————————————— 1:59:00
—————————————————————— DJT – I mean, Gorski needs to stop phoning stuff in, and check his sources before he posts stuff, because I’ve found many cases where, he hasn’t seemed to do that, and that’s why I question him
——————————————————————
—————————————————————— DJT – He’s done more than the case studies
He’s specifically given uh, almost all the information om an oncologist would want
And Gorski, and Gorski
—————————————————————— BB – “Except for a ph, completed phase 3 clinical trial”
——————————————————————
(laughing)
DJT – I mean, I love Gorski, but he comes up with these stupid excuses like, “Well, Burzynski is not an oncologist”
—————————————————————— 2:01:00
—————————————————————— DJT – Well, Gorski doesn’t go go in there and look at his other, his phase 2 clinical trial publications, as far as the preliminary reports, and look at the co-authors, and see if any of those guys are oncologists, and that they’re working with Gorski, I mean they’re working with Burzynski
I find that ridiculous
——————————————————————
Uh, Guy Chapman, “It’s a blog, not a peer-reviewed publication”
—————————————————————— BB – “Um, so, it it is kind of, slightly disingenuous to hold uh Gorski to the same . . standard that you would, it on his blog“
“I think that professionally he would make, he he he would follow-up on these things” ====================================== PROVE IT [10] ====================================== 2:03:03
—————————————————————— DJT – I mean, Gorski doesn’t want to deal with the issues
Hey, I’ve said it to Gorski
He liked to back his stuff up on the Mayo study, yet he wouldn’t, he wouldn’t uh debate about the Mayo study
He likes to say, “Well, Burzynski is not an oncologist,” but he won’t, say Hey, look at the publications, are any of the guys on the publications oncologists ?
We know that Gorski, we know that Burzynski works with oncologists in his practice
So, just because Burzynski himself is not an an oncologist, does not necessarily mean anything
Do we need to go out, onto PubMed, and, and review every particular person that’s published something about cancer and see if they’re all oncologists ?
Seriously
—————————————————————— 2:04:11
—————————————————————— DJT – I mean, Gorski will just
—————————————————————— BB – “Yeah, but they”
—————————————————————— DJT – post a lot of stuff without backing it up
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—————————————————————— 2:16:09
—————————————————————— DJT – What I defend, is that, y’all post stuff, a lot of Skeptics post stuff, including Gorski, and they do not back it up, with references, citations, or links
Gorski will just post stuff, like he did about saying, you know, the FDA would not approve, uh, accelerated approval, without a final phase 2 clinical trial being published, which was an incorrect statement, he did not provide any link
—————————————————————— BB – “Even if it’s true or false you, honestly though”
—————————————————————— DJT – We know it’s false
—————————————————————— BB – “Even if it’s true or false, in in that particular instance, you know, eh let’s just say that you’re right”
Gorski gets that point completely wrong”
It has no bearing on whether or not, ANP works”
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—————————————————————— 2:18:00
—————————————————————— DJT – You know, I don’t see why Gorski is afraid of debating issues
—————————————————————— BB – “I don’t think he is””
—————————————————————— DJT – on the Internet, on his blog
—————————————————————— BB – “I don’t think he’s afraid”
“I just think he’s got a lot going on”
“He is act, a full-time surgical oncologist and researcher”
“He does have insane am, he has to pick and choose his battles”
“And if, if if he saw that we were going to ultimately be circling around our same arguments again and again; kind of like we’ve done here, um, he uh, you, he doesn’t have time for that, I don’t think”
—————————————————————— 2:19:00
—————————————————————— BB – “I mean”
—————————————————————— DJT – Hey, he has time to post about, “Hey, uh, Burzynski got a Catholic award from somebody,” which, has nothing to do with antineoplastons, whatsoever
So, you know, he’s not focusing just in on,
“Do antineoplastons work, yes or no?,”
“When will Burzynski publish ?,” yes or no ?
You know, he’s putting all this ridiculous side junk, you know
“[I]f I had screwed up, I would have admitted it”
====================================== The LIE
====================================== [2] – 6/4/2013 – Gorski LIED:
” … Burzynski never explains which genes are targeted by antineoplastons … “
—————————————————————— [3] – 8/7/2013 – I pointed out to Gorski the majority of Burzynski’s publications which explain “which genes are targeted by antineoplastons … “, although there are even more
—————————————————————— [4] – DISCLAIMER: “Because he is still a working academic surgeon and researcher (and hopes to remain so until he retires, which means—hopefully–for another 20 years or possibly even more), Dr. Gorski must emphasize that the opinions expressed in his posts on SBM are his and his alone … “
Gorski might incorrectly assume that his DISCLAIMER is going to allow him to hide like a snake in the grass, but it’s NOT
I have yet to see his admission that he “screwed up”, even though he has claimed:
—————————————————————— [5] – “Our only goal is to promote high standards of science in medicine”
—————————————————————— [6] – 11/.2/2012 – “Personally, having pored over Burzynski’s publications … “
—————————————————————— [7] – 5/8/2013 – “I’ve searched Burzynski’s publications … “
—————————————————————— [8] – 5/31/2013 – “Burzynski has a contingent of defenders who have targeted skeptics like me for special abuse, up to and including harassing me at work by calling my university to complain about my online verbiage critical of Burzynski and implying that I am somehow doing something wrong”
“(My university quickly realized that I was not.)”
—————————————————————— [9] – 6/5/2013 – “ … I do know cancer science”
—————————————————————— [10] – 6/7/2013 – “Unlike Mr. Merola, I am indeed very concerned with getting my facts correct”
====================================== An Ethical Conundrum
======================================
To me, the message the institutions that Gorski is affiliated with are sending a message that it’s okay to LIE
and, we hire LIARS
And that’s the position I’m taking until Gorski puts on some Big Boy pants and takes accountability for his actions
March 14, 2013 David Gorski posted on ScienceBasedMedicine . org [1] and ScienceBlogs . com/Insolence [2]
3.
“Merola bemoans how unfair it is (to him) that the FDA is requiring a phase III clinical trials for Burzynski’s antineoplastons and refusing to grant accelerated approval for them, as it did for Temodar and Avastin”
“It seems like a compelling point on the surface if you don’t know about the drug approval process or Burzynski; indeed, The Skeptics who viewed the movie wondered about this claim”
“Here’s what, as far as I can tell from my reports, Merola leaves out”
“Temodar and Avastin both had proper, completed, and published phase II trials before approval”
Does Gorski provide a reference to support his statement ?
“Temodar and Avastin both had proper, completed, and published phase II trials before approval”
NO !
Does he provide a citation ?
NO !!
Does he provide a link ?
NO !!!
Why not ?
Is it because Science Based Medicine . org proclaims:
“Our only goal is to promote high standards of science in medicine” ? [3]
Is it because “Orac” is god ??
Is it because Gorski has proclaimed:
6/5/2013 “ … I do know cancer science”??? [4]
Is it because “Orac” says:
6/7/2013 “Unlike Mr. Merola, I am indeed very concerned with getting my facts correct” ???? [5]
1/1999 Temodar (Temozolomide): received accelerated approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for treatment of anaplastic astrocytoma (brain cancer) patients [6]
Was the United States Food and Drug Administration’s 1/1999 accelerated approval based on the PUBLISHED FINAL RESULTS OF A PHASE II (2) CLINICAL TRIAL?
The answer is: NO
1/1999 – FDA Accelerated Approval [6]
9/1999 – Phase 2 publication [7]
12/2000 – publication [8]
5/6/2009 U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted accelerated approval of Avastin (bevacizumab) for people with glioblastoma (brain cancer) with progressive disease following prior therapy [9]
Was the United States Food and Drug Administration’s 5/6/2009 accelerated approval based on the PUBLISHED FINAL RESULTS OF A PHASE II (2) CLINICAL TRIAL?
.2/10/2009 – 1st arm Phase 2 publication [10]
5/6/2009 – FDA Accelerated Approval [9]
1/1/2010 – 2nd arm publication [11]
The answer is: The 1st arm of the phase 2 clinical trial was published .2/10/2009, before the 5/6/2009 FDA approval, and the 2nd arm was published 1/1/2010, after the FDA approval
So, Gorski has been caught in yet another LIE
But no worries !
5/31/2013 Orac posted:
“Burzynski has a contingent of defenders who have targeted skeptics like me for special abuse, up to and including harassing me at work by calling my university to complain about my online verbiage critical of Burzynski and implying that I am somehow doing something wrong”
“(My university quickly realized that I was not.)” [12]
Gorski obviously has carte blanche to LIE
I wonder what
Wayne State University
Wayne State University School of Medicine
Section of Breast Surgery / Graduate Program in Cancer Biology
Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Center / Institute
Alexander J. Walt Comprehensive Breast Center
American College of Surgeons Committee on Cancer
Institute for Science in Medicine
National Geographic
ScienceBlogs . com
and
ScienceBasedMedicine . org
all think of this, knowing that they could become the next
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